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Name: Creation Con
Founding Date: 1971
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an early 1990s (?) flyer, showing the grueling machine of Creation Con

A "Creation Con" is a convention run by Creation Entertainment. Creation has been criticized for overcharging fans and running unpleasant glorified autograph sessions for new fans who don't know any better. They have also been highly successful at getting big name guests, which can make many of their cons highly attractive to fans who do prefer procons.

A later major competitor was Slanted Fedora.

A fan in 2003 wrote:

From what I’ve seen, all the Creation cons seem to have the same format. The guests speak and then sign autographs, there is a dealer’s room, and that is about it. No panels, no showing of films, etc. [1]

Also see cretin con and Fan Con.

Early Cons: Januarycon, Maycon...

Fans, at least in the Star Trek fandom in 1983 and 1984 referred to these cons by their month. "Januarycon," "Octobercon," and "Maycon." This could not have been a long-lasting practice, as no year was specified, and there was no anticipation that these cons would go on for decades. But at the time, "Creation Cons" were the only game in town.

NOTE: This does not apply to FebCon, which was its own thing.

Early Cons: Starlog

Some of these cons were referred to as "Starlog Festivals" or "Starlog Cons."

Vid Shows and Vid Contests

Starting in the 1980s, Creation Con would bulk up its events by showing fan made music videos before the actor's panels. In most instances these vids were shown with the fan creator's permission. However, one instance involved the convention re-editing a Quantum Leap vid "Oh Boy" by California Crew and showing the vid without permission. This resulted in California Crew deciding to limit the distribution of their vids:

The distribution is erratic on song-tapes only if you don't make them yourself, really. Hanging around with Judy, I found that the MW vid-makers generally swap copies of their year's work. I don't think California Crew does anymore, though, since Creation got hold of one a copy of their 1991 tape and RE_MADE "You Can Call Me Al" and "Oh, Boy" and one other QL video and showed the RE-CUT versions at the LeapCon. California Crew are of the opinion that since the song and the TV show are copyright works, they can't copyright their vids, but I wonder if song-vids would fall under compilation-copyright, or even under whatever copyright holds for collages. So, because the commercial vipers swiped the videos and re-made them (it's not just that they were shown, it's that Creation re-did them, and not as well), nobody gets to see California Crew vids outside MediaWest. [2]

In the 1990s, Creation Con would request submissions of fanvids to be shown in a contest. The winner was offered a $100 gift certificate in their company merchandise store. Fans would occasionally submit their vids under their pseuds to avoid unwanted attention. In exchange for showing the vid, the fan vidder had to grant Creation Con a perpetual license to use their vids in their conventions and on their DVDs.[3]

1989: Example of Fan Promotion

Fans, who were eager to take what they could, often offered to promote "Creation Con" in their own amateur publications.

Fans also volunteered, or were recruited, by Creation Con to provide content, programming, and promotions. One example is The International Beauty and the Beast Convention.

Some 1991 Comments on the Franchise's History and Function

Adam Malin gave an interview to the editor of The William Shatner Connection onsite at Creation Con's event to celebrate the 25th Anniversary of Star Trek.

In it, Malin explained the evolution of fans and fandom, the increasing professional take-over of Trek conventions, he and Gary Berman's journey through fandom via collecting and comics, and the function and future of Creation Con.

See more at Guest Interview: Adam Malin.

A 2000 Press Release, Focus on Fandom, Inc.

This press release both gives some official history, as well as announces Creation Entertainment's relationship with Fandom, Inc., the latter known for its strong-arm tactics in its attempt to trademark the word "fandom" and for trying to shut down fan web sites. See Fandom, Inc. for more.


Acquisition of Top Live Events Producer and Licensed Merchandise Company Strengthens Fandom's Audience Reach and Marketing Efforts:

(SANTA MONICA, Calif.) December 6, 2000-Fandom, Inc. (, the pre-eminent media company focused on Expanded Reality Entertainment (ERE), announced today that it has completed the acquisition of Creation Entertainment. The Glendale, California-based company is the nation's leading producer of live events for fans of fantasy, science fiction and horror, and invented the concept of touring fan conventions almost 30 years ago.

Creation Entertainment was founded in 1971 and also designs, manufactures and distributes licensed merchandise based on popular motion picture and television properties including Star Trek, The Sopranos, Saturday Night Live, Farscape, Charmed and Xena: Warrior Princess.

"With the acquisition of Creation Entertainment, we will bring our audience an exciting new dimension to the Fandom experience," said Mark Young, CEO of Fandom, Inc. "Creation brings almost 30 years of successful convention expertise that extends the fan experience for global, enduring entertainment properties."

"Becoming part of the Fandom media network allows Creation to take our fan base to the next level," said Gary Berman, co-CEO of Creation Entertainment. "Fandom and Creation are a perfect match because our products and services appeal to the same passionate demographic, which has the power to make and extend the life of hit properties."

Creation Entertainment created the concept of touring fan conventions in the 1970's, beginning with comic book conventions and moving into touring shows for Star Trek, James Bond, The X-Files and Xena. Since then, Creation has produced more than 1,000 shows, garnering "A"-list celebrity appearances including George Lucas at its Official Star Wars Convention, Arnold Schwarzenegger at the Official Terminator Convention, and Jack Nicholson at the Fangoria Weekend of Horrors Convention. Hundreds of other celebrities have participated at Creation shows across the United States.

"As a company that celebrates fantastic entertainment in all media, Creation looks forward eagerly to bringing its special brand of fan entertainment to Fandom's worldwide audience. The combined assets of the Fandom Network make it a powerful destination for fans as they explore the subjects they love," said Adam Malin, the co-CEO who founded Creation Entertainment with Gary Berman. The company has 30 employees.

"Creation Entertainment brings the added excitement of live events to Fandom's already strong online and offline entertainment base," said Young. "The company's reputation as respected producer of fan conventions and merchandise allows Fandom to further its goal of being the leading source of entertainment and information for science fiction, horror and fantasy fans."

The Creation Entertainment purchase comes on the heels of Fandom's acquisition of Cinescape, a Chicago-based company that publishes a leading action/adventure/science fiction magazine focusing on film, television and new media and also owns and operates the popular Web site


Santa Monica, Calif. based Fandom, Inc. (, is a media company with multiple delivery platforms that operates the Internet's number-one choice for Expanded Reality EntertainmentTM (fantasy, science fiction, horror and online gaming.) Fandom is the trusted authority in these genres, providing fans a unique and compelling entertainment experience. The company also owns and operates Cinescape Magazine and, which cover television, film and new media.

Fandom's online platforms offer immersive online environments that combine content, commerce and community with an emphasis on fan participation. They feature news, in-depth articles, fan-generated content, chats, surveys and polls, sweepstakes and contests. also features an online shop specializing in genre merchandise and collectibles, as well as a print catalog distributed to 250,000 subscribers on a regular basis. Founded in July 1999, the company's investors include Redpoint Ventures, RRE Ventures, Wasserstein Adelson Ventures and Entertainment Media Ventures.

Fan Comments

Fan Comments: 1987

This is the first Equicon that I’ve attended, before this I have been a regular at the Creation shows which I have enjoyed very much. Maybe it’s because of them that I was disappointed with this convention. I found it to be somewhat unorganized with programming running behind several times. The costume contest seemed to me to be too long and the video programming was uneven. This is suppose to be a fan convention so maybe that’s what the difference was. [4]

Fan Comments: 1989

Back in the 1970s, mundanes woke up and started noticing how much fun Trekkers were having at their Trek cons- and how money, lots of money, changed hands. So the businessmen got into the act. These non-fen got together and started running Trek cons. These cons were, and still are, very popular because they have the money to pay the STAR TREK stars to make an appearance, which draws in crowds of Trekkers. The Creationcons got so popular that they probably pushed out the fan-run cons that used to be held In the same areas. Creationcons are quite different from other conventions. First there are no name badges; they just stamp your hand for the day. Second, all they have are just two rooms. There may be thousands of fen in each room, but it's still just two rooms. The auditorium where the stars speak, and the Dealer's Room, where fanzines, photos and practically all types of Trek memorabilia you can think of are sold, and that's it. No panels, no filking, no place to just hang out, like a con suite, and certainly no room parties, because Creationcons close promptly at 7.00 pm- The thing about no room parties is gradually changing, though - this year (and last) the ST:TNG club ENTERPRISE AMERICA did have a room party, and this year Creationcon had another first - a masquerade (well, they're learning...). [5]

Fan Comments: 1991

.... I continue to be amazed at the power to attract that is Star Trek. Twenty five years later and Star Trek can still command the respect, loyalty and love of over 20 million people the world over, a show that was canceled after only three short seasons. How is this possible? What keeps people interested in Star Trek year after year? There are many reasons offered but none seem to be sufficient,nor will I attempt to answer that all evasive question. Nevertheless, one fact is clear and that is the effect of conventions on the longevity and continued success and survival of Star Trek. And of all the conventions Creation Conventions clearly stands alone. For over twenty years Creation has brought Star Trek to our home cities. They've brought us the stars, special videos, unique merchandise and more. But what or who is Creation? Where did it come from?

Creation is the brainchild of Adam Malin and Gary Herman, two dynamic dreamers who have continually encouraged our fantasies and shared our dream for over20years. The conventions helped breathe life into our fantasies, into the dreams that we had for Star Trek.

While Creation may cover many areas of science fiction its continuing love for Star Trek is still number one ... [6]

Creation Cons are absolutely the worst in Amarillo. We didn't even get an actor. Just tapes of the stars' appearances at other Creation Conventions. [7]

Fan Comments: 1992

As many of you know (and some of you don't), a couple of years ago, Creation (a for-profit organization) tried to get all of the ST:TNG actors to sign contracts to do Creation Cons exclusively. That's right - no fan-run convention would be allowed to have a guest star from TNG. Even though all but Marina Sirtis turned them down this did not endear Creation to Star Trek fans, and we've been carrying a pretty big chip on our (collective) shoulder against Creation ever since. However, I feel that they are realizing the errors of their ways and are trying to make amends to the members of STARFLEET, as well as to the members of all those other clubs that dream of being Starfleet when they grow up. (Just kidding!) Or, maybe they are just kissing up to us because they are afraid of losing business. I don't claim to know for sure, but I, for one, am going to give them the benefit of the doubt and see what happens. [8]

I have sworn not to give anything to blood-sucking robber barons (excuse me. Creationists). Not even Dean Stockwell in a G-string will change my mind. [9]

The Cons Themselves

NOTE: This is a massive work in progress, and only a fraction of the cons are listed below.


New York City: November 26-28, 1976

This con took place in New York City November 26-28 and was also referred to as "Starlog Festival."

Con Report: a con report was printed in The Propagator v.2 n.21.



Atlanta: May 1983

From The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, 5/7/1983: "THE ATLANTA CREATION CONVENTION. Show features pre-views of up-coming science-fiction horror films, exhibits; over 150,000 comic books; Marvel Comics artists, Klaus Janson, for "Daredevil"; Bob Wiacek, an inker for the "X-Men"; Ron Wilson, for "The Thing." Also appearing, Walter Koneig, from "Star Trek". 11 a.m.- 7 p.m. Saturday-Sunday, May 7-8. $8 per day. Hyatt Regency Atlanta. 265 Peachtree St. (Downtown Atlanta). For more details, 1-800-645-6579."

Creation Con - Atlanta - 1983 - AJC.jpg

Known to be in attendance were Dorothy Dillon, Mari Key (a.k.a Meredith Rushton), Randall Landers and Eric L. Watts, who tape-recorded Walter Koenig's one-hour Q&A on Saturday, May 7. In a May 28, 2017, Facebook post[1], after listening to the 34-year-old recording, Watts said "During the Q&A, Koenig talks a lot about the latest film, Star Trek II, and what little he already knows about Star Trek III, which he said will start shooting in August for a Summer 1984 release."


New York City: January 7-8, 1984

A "Salute to Star Trek" -- New York City

Con Report:

'CONVENTION 84' by Bob Vosseller. It seems every convention I review gets bigger and better than the last. Creation's first Star Trek convention of 1984 was held in New York at the Roosevelt Hotel on January 7th and 8th. I was able to attend both days of the event and have twice as much to review. One other difference is that this time the chapter became part of the convention, and was listed among the many activities on the convention schedule. (See schedule)

The convention began with Saturday's noon preview film of the movie Dune. A Star Trek filmstrip followed. No convention would be complete without the annual blooper reel.

Howard Weinstein's presentation followed. Howard commented on the progress of Treasure's Trade, his new Trek book, and his part in the collaboration of V-East Coast Crisis. He also spoke about future Trek books and of the work of his fellow writer Ann Crispin. Howard always makes an entertaining presentation.

A Trek trivia test was next on the agenda and a special Trek auction followed.

Mike Barr, writer of the new DC Star Trek comic, and the new Batman and The Outsiders title took the stage next. Mike talked about his plans tor the Trek title and the direction it will take for the summer adaption of ST III.

Probably the most eagerly awaited event was the special slideshow preview of Star Trek III. Let me tell you, the Grand Ballroom was packed with fans glued to the widescreen in awe.

The preview featured scenes of Leonard Nimoy in his role as director. Other slides included a shot of Nicolas Meyer who visited the set, George Takei taking direction orders and Merrit Butrick as David Marcus. That wasn't all. Two of the most spectacular slides featured Robin Curtis in her role as the new Lt. Saavik, and Nichelle Nichols as Uhura posed in a transporter room packing a phaser. Then there were a few bridge shots, showing all our old favorites in civilian attire.

A number of aliens will be in ST III. Several were shown in addition to Christopher Lloyd in full Klingon makeup as Kroug. A shot ot Saavik and David finding Spock's coffin on the Genesis World was also featured. That raised a number of cheers from the audience. So did the shot of Kirk's battle with Kroug. One of the last slides showed a battered Kirk looking over to someone. Could it have been Spock?

Walter Koenig took the stage next and as part of his presentation, interviewed his character of Chekov. This he did by switching voices. It was humorous to say the least. He commented during the question and answer period that most of the more amusing dialogue went to James Doohan. "It's DeForest Kelley's film" Koenig said. He was reluctant to say more but did speculate on the possibility of ST IV. He also held a shouting contest and literally died on stage.

The art contest featured many talented fan artists. That was the last event of the day.

The dealers room which is always a featured attraction of any con featured items ranging from ST comics to Indiana Jones T-shirts, from Dr. Who records to nude Shanna posters.

The Grand Ballroom's anteroom area housed a number of tables including our own. The chapter's table featured a large poster which included examples of Starfleet membership materials, a beautiful chapter banner, and a poster which included our department emblems.

Table items for sale included Genesis, newsletters, CIT's, and the first issue of Hailing Frequencies, a new fanzine project from the Communications Department. Sales went well for all chapter items. Hailing Frequencies sold out in less than three hours. Towards the end of the first day, we were able to attract the interest of an NBC news film crew. Commodore Genser and I hammed it up for the cameras and ended up on the eleven o'clock news. We even managed a few lines of dialogue for the folks at home. Jason, Alex, Karl and I stayed on at the Roosevelt Hotel and awaited our debut on the news. Believe me. that was an adventure in itself.

Sunday the con began for us even before the fans were allowed in. The table seemed to be the official greeting point for those waiting for the first event of the day, a repeat of Saturday's first slideshow.

Arnold Garguilo's demonstration of his special effects and makeup talent followed.

Jo Duffy, writer of Marvel Comic's Star Wars, then spoke about her plans for that title.

An open meeting of our chapter followed. Jason, Alex. Karl, Laura Hoffman, Anna Iwanow and myself took the stage to inform the audience about Starfleet, our chapter, and our accomplishments of the past two years.

A ST/fantasy costume parade followed. It consisted mainly of young children. The cutest was a four year old Luke Skywalker. Allan Asherman, the author of the Star Trek Compendium, and The Making of Star Trek II, then made his presentation. He spoke about the work involved in researching both projects. Allan was extremely interesting and shed some light on little known facts about the TV series. Watch for a special article on his presentation and an in depth interview with him in the second issue of Hailing Frequencies.

Waller Koenig returned to talk about his career as Pavel Chekov, and answered a few questions. He held an autograph session, but was forced to leave before it was complete.

Howard Weinstein closed the day reading a few chapters from Treasure's Trade, and made reference to a possible sequel to Covenant of the Crown. He added that his co-author on the 'V' project, Ann Crispin, will be writing a sequel to her best-selling novel, 'Yesterday's Son.'

During the auction and slideshow, ABC was filming various fans for their news coverage of the convention. The table and myself made a brief appearance on ABC's local six o'clock news. Sales of our items improved from Saturday's coverage, and each of us who served at the table had a lot of fun meeting enthusiastic and sometimes, downright weird fans.

Januarycon was a huge success that was reminiscent of the early Star Trek cons. It was also a marked success for the chapter. [10]

New York City: May 12-13, 1984

Con Report:

the second page of the May 12-13, 1984 con

The annual May Creation Convention, held on the 12 and 13 of May at the Roosevelt Hotel in midtown Manhattan was a smashing success for both Creation Conventions and the Constitution. Thousands of individuals attended and virtually everyone enjoyed themselves. Maycon 84 marked the 1st anniversary of our fanzine, Genesis.

The con began at 11:00, with people being let in ten-fifteen minutes early. We had our table set up and were prepared [for the most part] for the ensuing crowd which rushed in upon us. Copies of Constitution Comments and Hailing Frequencies sold like they were going out of style.

During the course of the weekend. Creation ran a number of previews from many upcoming films including: Gremlins, Supergirl, Ladyhawke, Ghostbusters, Buckaroo Banzai, Dreamscape, and, of course. Star Trek III - The Search For Spock. No Star Trek convention would be complete without the classic blunders of the Enterprise crew, which were shown in the popular Star Trek Blooper Reel.

We didn't have 'official chapter stage-time,' but I was invited up on stage with Adam Malin. the president of Creation Conventions, to help out in the Star Trek Trivia Game. The audience asked questions of a special panel and if they stumped the experts, they would be awarded a prize. That proved to be alot of fun.

The first guest on Saturday was Mark Lenard, the only actor to portray all three of Star Trek's major aliens. He was very entertaining, and informative as well. Mark spoke about his career, his part in Star Trek, both past and present, and about his other contributions to the world of entertainment. Then, Mark held a question and answer session which the crowd loved. Fans asked Mark all sorts of questions on his career and on Star Trek.

This was followed by the famous Creation No Minimum Bid Auction, which lasted for about an hour. Great fun ensued as fans watched packages of Star Trek and science fiction stuff auctioned off to the highest bidder!

The next guest was James Doohan, who as you know, plays the chief engineer of the Enterprise, Commander Montgomery Scott. He packed the fans into the Grand Ballroom just as Mark Lenard had. Jim did some of his famous accents and told the fens stories and anecdotes from both his career, and Star Trek. Then he held a question and answer session. The fans asked Jim about his career and, of course Star Trek.

After Jim's presentation, he and Mark held an autograph session in the area outside of the Grand Ballroom. Adam put me in charge of 'crowd control and security' around Jim and Mark while they were signing autographs. That was tots of fun!

Alex tells me that Sunday was just as entertaining as Saturday. I can't say too much about Sunday, because transportation problems prevented me from attending. The enclosed con schedule should tell you what events occurred on Sunday.

All in all, Maycon 84 was a fantastic success and the chapter got alot more exposure both to the stars, and the public. [11]

  • a con report in TREKisM #37
  • a con report by by Miriam Trentini in the August 1984 issue of USS Eagle Intercom
  • a con report for in L.A. in May. The fan was mostly disappointed. "The lines were long, the organization was not terrific, and the con was obviously run, unlike most I've attended, to make money," from The Propagator #1 (new run)

Atlanta: October 13-14, 1984

October 13-14, 1984 (11 am to 7 pm) at the OMNI International Hotel. Walter Koenig, Ron Kats (of the Doctor Who Fan Club of America), and several comics artists were guests. Events included films, bloopers, autograph sessions, dealers room, art contest, costume parade, a "sound-alike" contest, a banquet, and a "no minimum bid" auction."

atlanta fantasy fair: calling 1984, Archived version (has a lot about this Creation Con)


Anaheim: March 3-4, 1985

There was a con March 3 and 4, 1985 in Anaheim, California. It was mentioned in TREKisM #41/42 (which also includes some photos), as well as in the editorial by Della Van Hise in Banned in Anaheim. Con Report:

cover of Yorktown May 1985, autographed by Majel Barrett at Anaheim Starlog Con, Doug Little is the artist, the art was sold by Lincoln Enterprises

New York City, June 22 and 23, 1985

There was a con in New York City at the Penta Hotel in June 1985. Leonard Nimoy was a guest. The zine Nome #8 was sold there.

Con report:

Creation Convention.. .New York City...With Leonard Page Eileen L.

Leonard Nimoy was the guest at the Creation Convention. It was held at the Penta Hotel in New York City on June 22 and 23, 1985. I arrived in New York City via AmTrak a day early. LN was scheduled to be on that Saturday. I spent the day in the City.


This was the big day! I went and stood in line with friends. We managed to get front row seats. Leonard Nimoy's Fan Club also gathered in one area. I did get to meet some of the girls in the Club.

This was a typical Creation Convention. They had films and a dealers' room. The dealers' room was larger than usual, and had lots of Star Trek stuff on sale.

Finally the time arrived and LN came on and gave his talk. The room was full and everyone cheered and went wild! He spoke about Star Trek and the new movie. He also had a question and answer session which lasted about an hour. He talked about the new Star Trek movie and when asked if Eddie Murphy would be in Star Trek IV, he said to let them make the decisions, because he would make the right ones.

After his talk, I went to the Leonard Nimoy Hospitality Suite which was in Cheryl F.'s room. A few of the Fan Club members were there. After a while my roommate and I decided to go to the Russian Tea Room for dinner.


We arrived again in the ticket line. My friends were there holding space for me, but I ended up joining the Fan Club members again. This time I ended up in the second row, center aisle. The Fan Club had a short meeting and we all introduced ourselves.

LN came and gave his talk again. When the question and answer session took place, he called on me first! I was surprised when he called on me. I asked him if he would read a poem and he said he would at the end of his talk.

He again spoke about Star Trek IV and read his poem at the end of his session. By that time the crowd started getting pretty noisy and it was hard to hear him read. No one wanted to see him go.

Too soon the convention was over. Most of the Club ended up back in Cheryl's room talking and looking at photographs from the day before. Some of the girls went to other destinations. I wandered around the City and took a taxi back to the hotel. I ended up back in Cheryl's room to watch Star Trek the TV series on the hotel television.


Monday had come too soon and Cheryl and Bruce and I said our good-byes. I was sad to see the convention over and will always remember seeing Leonard Nimoy again.

Note: Thank you, Mr. Nimoy, for taking the time to come to the conventions. [12]

Anaheim: October 12-13, 1985

Con report:

Saturday morning came bright and early as part of us worked on straightening the room and transforming it into the LNFC Hospitality Suite, and the rest hurried downstairs to stand in line for seats in the Convention Auditorium and to reacquaint ourselves with some old friends met in


Once the convention got under way, I tried to spend some time and money in the dealers' room, but most of my time was spent in the Hospitality Suite signing up new club members. While I was getting writer's cramp, others were saving me a seat so I could get a chance at some pictures of Mr. Nimoy during his talk that afternoon. Of course we closed the suite during his session

He arrived to a packed house and a thunderous ovation. Looking marvelously rested and enthused by the crowd, Mr. Nimoy was with us for about an hour and 15 minutes. He spoke about his experiences with ST and answered questions from the crowd , politely working his way out of any detailed questions about ST IV. He was good at side-stepping and really revealed nothing new about it-just vague generalities that were already known! He was hurried off the stage early because it was anticipated that t he hotel needed the room for another event . It was bad enough that Mr. Nimoy had to leave, but it was eve n worse when it was found to be a mistake! While the majority of the crowd was amiably milling about after his departure, Mr. Nimoy had slipped into the dealers' room and signed about 20 autographs at Teresa Victor's table before slip- ping out again before he could be mobbed. Sunday morning we were up early again -- this time to pack up the room and load the car. We were moving to less expensive quarters after the convention. This day I was able to spend more time in the dealers' room and with friends since the suite was closed. Mr. Nimoy arrived on time and made up for his forced departure the day before. He spoke and answered questions for almost 2 hours, once again being politely evasive about ST IV. He did seem very pleased when asked about Teresa Victor who had worked very closely with him for 18 years. He said that Teresa had been and continued to be a great deal of help to him. He also mentioned that Teresa had a dealers' table in the dealers' room and would welcome seeing all the ST fans. He looked as tremendous as the day before and really seemed to enjoy the crowd as much as they appreciated him. It was a great two hours!! He left by a side door and again slipped into the dealers ' room to sign autographs briefly at Teresa's table. Those luck y enough to be close to the table were pleased to see that Mr. Nimoy gave Teresa Victor a hug and kiss before slipping away!


Monday evening several of us had dinner with Teresa Victor, and she fascinated us with stories about the early days on the set of the ST series. Where else would we have ever learned about the use of such modern conveniences as a tin can on a string lowered out a second story window so that notes could be passed back and forth to the office below! Teresa is a beautiful, gracious lady who greatly enhanced our visit and left us with many wonderful memories. [13]

If you happened to be standing in Syracuse's Hancock Airport around 6:30 a.m. on Friday, October 11, you might have noticed a somewhat embarrassed Republic Airlines passenger desperately trying to avoid the questioning looks of a likewise somewhat red-faced Republic Airlines employee as he lifted her bags onto a luggage cart (his hernia operation is next Thursday!). It was on such a note that I, along with my camera, personal belongings, and a suitcase full of 1500 LNFC membership flyers, pictures, and various other items, set out for California to meet old and new friends and attend the Creation Con where Leonard Nimoy would be speaking.

The first few hours after arriving at LAX were spent collecting luggage, roommates, hugs, and occasional stares from amused passersby as I tried to convince my luggage as to the merit of continuing on in the same direction my luggage carrier and I were going. Unfortunately, my success can be noted in the fact that I now hold the world's record for the number of times one person can pick their luggage up off an airport floor in any one given day. Thanks to Betty Sch. uncanny ability to squeeze 86 suitcases in a rental car trunk, we were off to settle in at the Sheraton Universal and spend the rest of the afternoon relaxing and greeting Club members as they arrived.

Our first planned function occurred at 8:00 that night as we all trooped over to Jerry's Deli to meet with Helen M., Julie D., and Diana G. of the William Shatner Fellowship. What I wouldn't have given to have captured the look on that poor hostesses face as I politely asked for a table for 16! Life is such fun sometimes!! After dinner, thanks to Helen's gracious invitation, we all headed over to her apartment to spend the rest of the evening visiting and watching videos of LN ad Bill Shatner. What a super evening!!

Now, for those of you who have never had the experience of sharing a room at a Con before, let me tell you it is quite an experience. It's amazing what you can find out about people. I suppose now would be a great time to devulge some of these neat little secrets... such as the way Sandra K. carries on entire conversations in her sleep or the unique ways in which Leonard Nimoy's name can be displayed on ladies nightwear...but I'll restrain myself. You never know from one minute to the next if you' ll be involved in a serious conversation or a pillow fight. A shower marathon or a hunt to discover how there can be ten pairs of shoes on the floor and none of them are yours. It's a time of laughing and joking, caring and sharing, and trying to make it to the bathroom in the dark without ending up sitting on the face of one of the extra bodies lying about the room. It's wonderful!!

Well, finally Saturday morning arrived and the disaster area we lovingly called home was miraculously transformed into the Leonard Nimoy Hospitality Suite. Clothes and personal belongings were quickly whisked off tables and dressers to be replaced by stacks of ILFC and WSF flyers, past copies of Quest II, and other items pertaining to the Club. The walls quickly came to life as pictures of LN in his various roles and appearances were proudly displayed. We even had home-made cookies to offer thanks to the generosity of our CA members. And so with great excitement the day began and we set about our various tasks of greeting new friends, exploring the dealer's room for new treasures to obtain, and patiently waiting for the big moment to arrive.

And finally that moment did arrive, much to the delight of the budding diplomats who had spent the past six hours convincing people not to sit in the front row seats we had quickly staked out for the Club. Accompanied by thunderous applause, shouts, thistles and the Star Trek theme, onto the stage strode Leonard Nimoy. He was clad in beige slacks, his white "Star Trek IV in '86" sweatshirt over a navy sport shirt, gray shoes, and, as I am told is true "Malibu fashion"--no socks. He looked more like a college kid going to a football game than a seasoned actor and director. Although he was somewhat subdued, having spent the morning at the hospital where his Dad had had a pacemaker put in, he still managed to dazzle the crowd with his warmth, charm, and wit as he recounted his 20-year "love affair" with Star Trek. A special highlight of the hour was when George Thomas from Rockwell International awarded LN with the following plaque:


LN seemed quite touched. After the Q & A period, he briefly signed autographs at Teresa Victor's table, who as I am sure you will be pleased to know, he referred to as someone he is still very much in contact with and who is still being very helpful to him. After closing the Hospitality Suite later that evening, we were all off to the famous "Bob's Big Boy" to fill our empty stomachs and once again brighten the day of some unsuspecting waitress.

I thought you might be interested to know that I had the pleasure of sitting next to LN's new Secretary, Ori Seron. What a delight she is! And boy can she hoot and holler with the best of 'em! It was so nice to see her enthusiasm and to see her support for Leonard Nimoy.

Sunday, LN was in rare form. He was just vibrant as he spoke, dressed in gray slacks and a white, loose fitting shirt unzipped to mid-chest. He met the numerous questions about Star Trek IV in bis usual humorous manner with such decisive and revealing answers as "could be", "that's a possibility", and "your next question was?". He did say, however, that Spock would have a substantial part! At one point, one clever little fan tried to catch him by asking, "Why will the crew be going back in time?". LN quickly replied with that innocent little smile of his, "Boy, it will have to be a pretty good reason. I guess we'll have to just wait and see." He looked on in amusement as the crowd booed and hissed at the question of whether Saavik would return pregnant with Spock's child and cheered when he responded in the affirmative that there was a possibility Amanda could be back. Another amusing incident was when he was asked what Spock's relationship with McCoy would be now that they had shared minds. The crowd broke into uproarious laughter as LN, at first speechless, looked down embarrassed and then responded, "Well, he was helpful. Whatever I gave, he gave back." He then quietly mumbled, "I still don't have much respect for medicine! I don't know..."

All too soon the time for LN to close was upon us. He was once again greeted with thunderous applause and laughter as he thanked the crowd and said, "We'll have to do this again next week! We'll kind of get together once a week—I'll tell you what's happening and you'll tell me what's happening in your lives..." once again, as he closed in his usual tradition of reading his poem, "For All Mankind" from YOU & I, I could feel that familiar special warmth encompass my heart. And I know I was not alone.

So now the weekend has come and gone. The teary farewells have been said, and we are once again settled into our usual routines. But like many of you, my life will never be the same. For, thanks to one very special man, I have returned home with many new friends, a strengthening of old ties, and a host of warm, wonderful memories--not to mention 1000 LNEC membership flyers!!

Cheryl F. [14]


Anaheim, California: June 21-22, 1986

Starlog Salutes Star Trek

San Francisco: 1986

  • a long, long account by Morjana Lee C of Mark Lenard's appearance at an Official Starlog Festival, held in conjunction with Creation Con in San Francisco, printed in Interstat #104

New York City: June 1986

Con Report:

Why do I go to these things? Because they give me a free table, and I get a lot of money, and ego-boo. For this I also take a lot of hassle... in this case, the Luboviches were having their Annual Dinner, and the upstairs ballroom where I set up the store had to be cleared... which meant I lost the better part of Sunday's sales. I did get a full 1/2 hour set, however.. Oh well, win some, lose some. [15]

Oakland: March 9-10, 1986

Con Reports: Oakland:

Creation Con held one of their multi-media conventions at the Oakland Hyatt Hotel over the weekend of March 9th and 10th. The Star Trek guest celebrity was Robin Curtis, Saavik of ST III. The audience on both days were charmed by the gracious, warm, lovely and friendly young actress.

RC opened both sessions by asking immediately for questions from the audience, quickly adding (in anticipation of someone's question), that she was 29 and single. On both days, one of the first questions asked was if Saavik would be pregnant in ST IV, and if so, who was the father? After telling us that she wasn't "very good" at keeping secrets, RC was very good at being evasive in directly answering the question, hinting that there is a possibility that Saavik could be pregnant, but also indicating that there is a possibility the issue will be left open in ST TV.

Audiences on both days were also quite interested in RC's interpretation of the Saavik character, versus the interpretation of Kirstie Alley. RC told us that as she is very impressionable, she hasn't seen ST II, and therefore couldn't compare her performance to KA's. RC was very gentle in reminding us that not only is a character dependent upon the actor, but also the director, and that Leonard Nimoy, as the resident Vulcan, guided her performance.

When asked what were her best and worst experiences in her acting career, the audience on March 9th was honored to share a very personal, moving experience for RC in her best category. RC is also a singer, and appeared as Aldonza (Dulcinea), in the musical Man from La Mancha. During the rape scene of Aldonza by the muleteers, her performance was so effective, that her father, sitting in the audience, became upset. RC also added to her best category, that during the filming of ST III, her father, Robert B. Curtis, became very ill, and subsequently passed away. However, before he died, RC was aware that her father was proud of her and that he knew she could take care of herself as an actress.

In the worst category, is the "David is dead" line from ST in. RC said she cringes every time she hears it. During the filming, she tried to emote the line in several different forms, one with a "break" in her voice, but again was directed by LN to read the line without emotion.

Would RC want to sing in any future ST movies? Of course, but not before Nichelle Nichols or else Nichelle would "kick her butt!"

RC is not a "Trekker". She has not seen either ST I or II, and as a child only saw the TV series sporadically, and then only because her older brother was a "Trekker", and he watched it often. RC's childhood impression of ST was that ST was a very adult and kinky series. RC referred to "Plato's Stepchildren", and the scene where Kirk is forced to kiss Uhura and Spock to kiss Christine. This has been a fantasy of her's ever since. Also, the scene from 'Miri", where Rand asked Kirk to look at her legs, and then tore open the top of her tunic.

RC was asked about the final sequence of ST III, where Spock climbs back down the temple stairs, looking into the faces of each of the ST crew. Why was Saavik unable to inset Speck's gaze, looking away from Spock? Was this RC's interpretation, or was she directed by LN to look away? RC answered, stating that just before the scene was shot, LN took her aside, and standing close to her, leaned in, whispering into her ear. "How would you react if you were to suddenly meet a lover you hadn't seen in seme time?" LN asked RC, stepping back to watch her reaction. RC said she. blushed, and looked away from LN, unable to meet his gaze. 'That's how I want you to react in this next scene," LN told RC.

Well, if Saavik is pregnant, that explains at least who the father is!

The other scene that is special to RC, was the sequence on Genesis, when Saavik and David find the young Spock during the blizzard. Because RC was concerned that she be true to Saavik in her performance, she would watch the dallies of each day's shooting, along with LN. They were ahead of schedule on the filming, when that sequence was filmed. Watching the dailies the next day, LN decided to re-shoot the sequence, adding the bit where the young Spock reaches out and touches Saavik's nose, and then touches his own.


After each session, RC was so kind to sign autographs for the fans. I stood at the tail end of the line on March 9th, and approximately 45 minutes later, got to RC. RC was smiling, very excited, and took time to talk with each fan. [16]


San Francisco: March 14-15, 1987

I really enjoy the conventions that the people from Creation put on in San Francisco. They have good programming, good guests and a decent sized dealers room. Everything seems to be well organized and the guests seem to be more accessible. I would recommend this convention to everyone. [17]

New York City: May 9-10, 1987

"Paul's Return to the Big Apple: 9-10th May 1987 Starlog Festival -- New York Penta" (con reports by Dana Waddell, revised by Kathy Allard; Barbara Leflar Jackson; and Toni Lay) printed in Avon Club Newsletter #29

Boston: May 30, 1987

A con report is in Avon Club Newsletter #29.

Detroit: July 18-19, 1987

Philadelphia: Late 1987

A con reports are in Avon Club Newsletter #31.

Memphis: Late 1987

Con report:

A "Portable Convention" is my description of a CreationCon. I call it a portable con, because there was no costume contest, art room, video or film rooms, or banquet.Even so I enjoyed the con very much.

There were slides of TV shows and films, Star Trek: The Next Generation, and Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home. They also had a Star Trek Trivia competition, and a preview on a new movie epic called Willow, by George Lucas and Ron Howard. A no minimum bid Star Trek creation auction , the Famous Star Trek blooper reel and our very good Russian Enterprise Commander Chekov that is our fine actor Walter Koenig. They also had a good dealers room, which, as always, they got my money.

All in all a very good portable convention.

The host and M.C. for Creation Con was Gary Berman.

I found out from Mr. Berman, Star Trek: The Next Generation has been renewed for a second season. It is the number two syndicated TV series in the country. The number one is "Wheel of Fortune". There are problems in the scripting. D.C. Fontana has left, upset that Mr. Roddenberry name was put as co-writer on the pilot show. David Gerrold has left under questionable,but friendly(ie. not caused by writing credit problems). He is with CBS TV working on a S.F. series called "Trackers", which is about bounty hunters in space exploring strange new worlds.

Mr. Roddenberry is relying on old ideas. He needs to use younger writers and new ideas. Also there is a rumor that Mr. Roddenberry will be kicked upstairs and someone new will replace him. All cast members are holding script meetings with Mr. Roddenberry which has never been heard of on a TV show. All are very happy working together on the series.

ILM only did the two hour pilot. The rest of the special effects have been done by the Paramount Special Effects House.

The first Next Generation cast members to appear at a Creation Con were Marina Sirtis and Jonathan Frakes, who is engaged to the soap opera star Genie Francis. The rest of the cast will start coming to other cons next year or 88.

When they showed the slides of each star all got a good round of applause until Brent Spiner as Data, and Michael Dorn as Worf.

DeForest Kelley and Caroline, his wife, were very happy in his cameo on the Next Generation Pilot. Majel Barrett Roddenberry helped pick out the cast for the Next Generation. She will star as a new cast role as Deanna Troi's mother and hope it will be a regular role.

Mr. Berman said that DeForest Kelley may be doing other roles but nothing at this time.

Mr. Nimoy may do a cameo part on the Next Generation but has not been asked as yet. He has left the Paramount Lot for the Disney Studios. His next project movie is called "The Good Mother", a drama movie, and he will direct it.

Walter Koenig,the guest, made the con very enjoyable. He said that Star Trek V has been postponed, due to Mr. Nimoy's directing "The Good Mother". Paramount was slow to offer Nimoy any job offers so Disney got him first.

Star Trek V will be and action-adventure story, exploring some uncharted area of the galaxy with lots of special effects. The story will center around the three main stars. No Klingons are included, but a Romulan may be here or there. Also a whole new species of aliens will appear. All the regular cast will be seen again.

Shatner will direct V, but doing the lead and directing will be a tough job. Mr. Koenig also said that at one point Chekov will pose as Captain of the Enterprise. However as the movie is underway this may change.

Mr. Koenig signed autographs and the Con came to an end for the Saturday events.

Sunday was just as enjoyable as Saturday. I hope this will be a regular event bigger and better for next year. [18]


New York City: January 1-3, 1988

CREATION CONVENTIONS presented "STARLOG Salutes STAR WARS: The First Ten Years." The con was planned for New York January 1-3, 1988 at the PENTA Hotel Featured attractions included: famous guest stars, giant dealers room, the STAR WARS trilogy films, Lucasfilm previews, STAR WARS trivia contest, behind-the-scenes slideshows, auctions, STAR WARS costume parade, comedy skits/sound-alikes, special f/x slideshows, fan club info. Con Report:

We all understand how stars tend to cancel at the last minute sometimes, but events such as the Tribute to Harrison Ford slide show that was to be held at a particular San Francisco Creation Con in January of 1988, should have taken place as advertised or advance notice given of the cancellation! These people seem to forget that there are fans traveling from other cities to these things, and usually fairly destitute (this is an important matter of consideration, don't you think?), who are more than angry and disappointed to have spent all aforementioned time and money in vain simply because something was falsely advertised! It happened to be the sole reason that we wanted to attend. [19]

Anaheim: January 30-31, 1988

Sheraton Anaheim, guests were Jonathan Frakes and Jonathan Harris.

San Jose: February 13-14, 1988

San Jose, RED LION INN. "Salute to Star Wars." Featured attractions included: famous guest stars, giant dealers room, the STAR WARS trilogy films, Lucasfilm previews, STAR WARS trivia contest, behind-the-scenes slideshows, auctions, STAR WARS costume parade, comedy skits/sound-alikes, special f/x slideshows, fan club info.

New York City: February 27-28, 1988

Penta Hotel, Manhattan, New York, one guest was Marina Sirtis.

New Haven: March 19-20, 1988

Park Plaza Hotel, New Haven CT.

Dearborn: April 16-17, 1988

Dearborn Civic Center in Dearborn, MI

Detroit: May 14-15, 1988

Detroit at the HYATT REGENCY DEARBORN. "Salute to Star Wars." Featured attractions included: famous guest stars, giant dealers room, the STAR WARS trilogy films, Lucasfilm previews, STAR WARS trivia contest, behind-the-scenes slideshows, auctions, STAR WARS costume parade, comedy skits/sound-alikes, special f/x slideshows, fan club info.

Los Angeles: June 18, 1988

The Creation Con in that encompassed June 18th was one that featured Ron Perlman (his first con) and other Beauty and the Beast (TV) actors and PTB. There is a very lengthy transcript of Howard Gordon's talk in Passages #4, #5, #6, and #7. Con Report:

A fan's comment:

Creation Conventions held a Beauty and the Beast convention on June 18,1988 in Los Angeles, California. Conventions, in both San Diego and Los Angeles, the two weekends before this con may have kept the turnout rather small, but we had a good time. The guests were Ron Perlman (his first con) and Howard Gordon (executive story editor, along with Alex Gansa). David Greenlee, who plays "Mouse" was also scheduled to appear, but was unable to attend. The programming began with a showing of the classic Cocteau film, "Beauty and the Beast", which was enjoyed by all. Next was Howard Gordon, who came on early in place of David Greenlee. He was delightful, charming, and seemed totally at ease in front of an audience. After a mini-auction, trivia and acting contests, it was time for Ron Perlman, who came out to a roaring crowd. He seemed a little nervous at first, but as the warmth and enthusiasm of the audience reached him, he relaxed and answered questions with wit and charm. It was obvious to everyone that both Howard Gordon and Ron Perlman have nothing but love and respect for the show and its fans. It was a wonderful coming together. [20]

St. Louis, Missouri: June 1988

St. Louis.

Ron Perlman was a guest.

Philadelphia: July 16-17, 1988

I went to the Creation Con in Philadelphia, July 16-17. David Greenlee was there, and he made that con for me. Otherwise, it was a B&B bust. Creation all but ignored B&B in every respect. Their offerings were only a few stills we already have and two buttons. And other dealers were not allowed to sell any B&B items as this was a Creation Con. They ignored B&B in their trivia and their auction sessions, even though they were prominently mentioned in the con flyer. At one point on Saturday, the MC asked if there were any B&B fans in the audience and the clapping and cheers were strong and immediate, but that was the end of that. Even less was said on Sunday. Fewer people showed up for Sunday, but there were the same and more B&B fans that day to see Greenlee again. He was much more relaxed on Sunday and spent some time with several of us fans after the autograph signing. He said Saturday was his first con ever, even as a visitor. He did say that his "Mouse" character was originally named "Weed", but this was changed for obvious reasons. I feel "Mouse" is perfect for him, since in "Ozymandias" we learn that as a child Mouse was caught by the leonine Vincent. David Greenlee and Mouse are interchangeable characters- both open, endearing and genuine. [21]

Comments by David Greenlee about this con, his first one ever:

I'll never forget it. It was in Philadelphia and it was a Creation convention. It was the shock of my life! It was pretty intense. The show was still on. I had only done like three or four episodes. I hadn't seen any, so it was extremely early on. My agent got a call from Creation Conventions and they were offering money. My agent, at the time, was a lovely woman named Hope Blackwood. She has passed on since. Hope was a very good agent. She made my career happen completely. But something like the Creation Conventions - she had no concept of what a Sci-Fi convention was. All we knew was that they were willing to pay in advance and mail me these tickets because of Beauty and the Beast I just thought.... I even said to Hope, 'Hope, why on earth are they.... I mean, this is ridiculous. Nobody’s gonna even know who I am. I’ll get there, sit in a room with my name on the door and - nobody will come. Why are they giving me all this money? I don't understand all this.' I get there and it's quite the opposite. Everybody knew, not only who I was, but they knew EVERYTHING about Beauty and the Beast. There were hundreds of people involved and they all had questions and I had none of the answers for any of the questions at all so I became sort of a moderator. I would receive questions, repeat them, and then take the answer - I was like Oprah! I made up stories about Roy because I had heard Roy tell a couple of stories and I sort of remembered the bits and pieces and people were asking about him. I was so thrilled to be working with Roy that I just sort of plunged in and told these stories that I'd heard him tell that I didn't really remember all the way through - exactly - correctly - necessarily didn't know what I was making up or what I was remembering. And I did the same thing with a couple of things about Linda because I had been friends with Linda before the show and I knew that she would forgive me considering what was going on. I started with Linda and then I got carried away and did the same thing with Roy. I thought, well, I'm in Philadelphia. I can get by with this. [...] No one will ever know. Later, I find out that every single word of this is transcribed, printed in zines, and mailed to every cast member. I was at work one day and into my dressing room is brought a zine. I don't remember which because I never saw anything except the fact that this interview was in it and I panicked and ran to the production assistant who had brought it into my room and asked, 'Did everyone get one of these?' The answer was yes and I immediately had to find Roy and Linda and say, Whatever it says in there, I was under extreme duress. Roy was very gracious about it. Since then, I've found out that this is Roy's specialty, take a story and fly with it. I didn't know at that time, that he would necessarily be fine with it. I mean, some people might be quite sensitive about you making up vast stories. [22]

Oakland: November 5-6, 1988

It was at the Hyatt Regency in Oakland, California.

a flyer by ORAC advertising Paul Darrow's appearances

Some of the guests were Paul Darrow, John de Lancie, John Romita Jr., Howard Gordon, Richard Arnold, and Tracy Torme.

There are photos of Darrow from this con in Aspects #3.

Con reports:

We met up with the intrepid traveler in Oakland, California, where the tireless Mr. Darrow was scheduled to appear at a two day Creation Con. [...] First on the schedule was a luncheon, where a limited number of lucky fans who had purchased tickets ahead of time could "have lunch with Paul". Although he must have been quite fatigued, having only just arrived in the wee hours that morning before, the Guest of Honor was gracious and thoughtful with all those attending, making the rounds of the tables to say hello and talk with everyone.

After the meal, Paul commented that he had been told that he only had to eat lunch and leave. However, he wanted to spend more time with the fans so he again circled the room to thank everyone for coming and he ended up spending the next hour and a half talking with the few remaining tables, charming us all with stories about his recent play [23], rock music in general, and a myriad of other topics. As the restaurant staff cleaned around us, one of the convention organizers finally had to fetch Paul for his first panel.

Following one of the actors from Star Trek, Paul first surveyed the crowd to see who might not have heard of Blake's 7. "Is there anybody here who has not seen Blake's 7? (some people raised their hands)... Why are you here? It seemed like a good idea at the time? Do you like Star Trek? Oh, you won't like Blake's 7... Well, it’s very similar in many ways... I play a character in Blake's 7 called Avon, who is a little like Spock, except that Avon kills people ... usually his friends, and in the back. He's the hero." Another fan asked Paul if Avon were to come back in another series, how would he change the character? "...Well, he's be more older, hopefully wiser. I think a lot would depend on scripts ... I wouldn't do it again if Terry Nation did not write it."

Paul also talked a bit about his new book. "I have written a book about Avon... It's about his early life, from babyhood to when the series began ... It's about, just sort of, sex and violence in outer space, and Terry Nation read it and thought it was great fun, and it's going to be published in the New Year, in hardback ... You'll love It, it's a wonderful book, I wrote it myself...The book will be published by Lyle Stuart of New Jersey. At the moment it's called Avon: A Terrible Aspect... It's a quote from Henry V about war, "a terrible aspect" -it's great -a good title, isn't it? ... Or they could call it Avon's Sexy Adventures In Space...

Paul also mentioned his new play, which opens January 21st."... it's called Alibi For Murder and it's starting out in England, and then we're probably going to take it to Australia and New Zealand ...


Paul fielded other questions on B7, Are You Lonesome Tonight (treating the audience to a short vignette from the play--and yes, he can sing), and a variety of other topics. Following the panel, Mr. Darrow joined John DeLancie ("Q" from Star Trek) in the Dealer's Room, where he signed autographs for a crowd of appreciative fans.

It was quite a day for all of us, as we enjoyed meeting not only Paul, but a number of people

who had flown in from Illinois, Colorado and even Canada. As we headed for home that evening, exhausted, we again ran into Paul as he was leaving the hotel for dinner, he waved to us in passing, and we were again amazed at the tireless energy and tremendous thoughtfulness he had shown that day to those attending. Thank you, Paul! [24]

St. Louis, Missouri: November 18-19, 1988

Paul Darrow was a guest.

New York City: November 24-27, 1988

Some guests were Gates McFadden, Richard Arnold, Terry Erdman, Tony Perkins, Tom Savini, Richard Chavez, and Philip Akin, and Paul Darrow.

Over the last Thanksgiving weekend (11/26/ 88), I ventured down to New York City for the Creation Con which has become one of their big, annual events. The guest list was impressive and lengthy, but my draws were Gates McFadden (ST:TNG) and Paul Darrow. I've been an avid Trekker for years, but have only just begun to grow attached to Blake's 7 (in fact, I've seen only Seasons 1-3. so far). Also, while I had several favorites among the B7 ensemble, there was no one who stood out among the others to command my attention. After meeting Paul Darrow, though, that certainly changed. What impressed me the most of ail about this actor is the love and appreciation he has for the fans. When he walked on stage he was greeted with thunderous, enthusiastic applause and he returned it with a manner that can only be phrased as coming from the heart. Many celebrities think of their work as merely a job and keep themselves distanced from the fans. Mr. Darrow seemed to genuinely appreciate the fact that we've supported his work and cared enough to show up at the con. He also surprised me by his affection for his character,Avon.When askedwhyhe'dstuckwithashowlikeS7,he replied that it was because of the role, which he thought was great, and that he'd have been a fool to not go on with it. He also spoke of a novel he has written, based around the character, which should be coming out in the near future. I know of no actor who has cared so much about their character that they have written a book about him. Mr. Darrow was delightful in his rapport with the fans during the Q&A session, and even adopted an Avon-like manner, which the fans adored.

After the talk, he sat for an autograph session, which raised my opinion of him again. Many cons are becoming increasingly over attended, swamping the guests. Pre signed photos are becoming the rule, but it is pleasing to see there are still big stars out there who care for us little folk. For anew fan of S7, Paul Darrow's appearance in NYC was a time that will be remembered with joy. [25]


Los Angeles: June 1989

Los Angeles Hilton: Creation Con Salutes Star Trek

San Jose: August 18-19, 1989

Howard Gordon and Roy Dotrice in San Jose, CA on August 18-19th at the LeBaron Hotel.

The event will be the first full-scale, 2-day, commercial convention devoted solely to "Beauty and the Beast."... Something of a "test run," Creation is confident that fans will pitch in and make this event a mega-hit; needless to say, some pretty nifty future events will hinge on its success. [26]

The con also included a con skit: The Big Whodunit: A Star Trek Murder Mystery Spoof.

New York City: August 26-27, 1989

August 26-27th at the Penta Hotel in Manhattan, guests were Tony Jay (Paracelsus of Beauty and the Beast), Wil Wheaton, Yvonne Craig, Bill Mumy, Isaac Asimov, Malachi Tluone, & Chris Cleremont)

San Jose: September 1989

Con Report:

Yes, Roy Dotrice and Howard Gordon were in San Jose, and so was I. Yes, Ron Perlman was stalking through the alleys of downtown LA., and I was there. Yes, P.K. Simons and David Greenlee were speaking at a very small convention over the Labor Day Weekend, and I was there. But I'm not a fanatic. "Who's she kidding?) Well... maybe a little bit of a fanatic. I guess I'm addicted. If you're even mildly interested, keep reading.

My first BAB 'fix' was in San Jose at the Creation Convention. I was ostensibly there to sell my 'zines, but really... I mean... I'd never actually met Roy Dotrice. I guess I just couldn't help myself. He's so charming, debonair, classy!

What impressed me most about Roy in person was not his great voice, his sparkling eye, or even the fact that he has real clothes. He was so impressively healthy! Perhaps it's those 'tunnel lights', but Roy really looked marvelous. (Where's Billy Crystal when you need him?)

Roy entertained us not only with tidbits about the behind-the-scenes exploits (like the food fight that ignited on the 'Dead of Winter' set), but his first days in acting as a prisoner of war in a German POW camp. He was only sixteen, and his first role was as the fairy godmother in Cinderella, but it caught his actor's heart on fire and his love of acting has been burning ever since. He says that his wife is glad he graduated to male parts. I imagine so.

Howard Gordon was also very enlightening. He really was not free to let details about the new season out, but there were some details he spoke about. We shall get the new episodes with a new villain who'll make Paracelsus look like a goody-two-shoes.

At first, we shall have only dark glimpses of this villain, but by the sixth episode, he shall be fully revealed.

According to Howard, they are really excited, and that the spirit of the show is unchanged... and he seemed to be hinting at something when he said that, for he said it more than once with a twinkle in his eye.

He also said that the show would come on as soon as CBS had a slot available. Most guess that will be around December at this point.

The convention was very small, and there wasn't even a dealer's room. Instead, they were out in the hallways, but the spirit of the fans more than made up for it. Not only the fans, for both Roy and Howard signed autographs and posed for pictures until late In the evening Saturday, making sure no one was turned away empty-handed.

The next event in my recent escapades was a visit to a dark, rat-infested alley in downtown Los Angeles. Ron Perlman, in full Vincent make-up, showed up to do a scene. When the cameras roll, he's all business, bur in-between takes, he's a real cut-up. It still amazes me that he is so relaxed when he's working. He's a real professional.

During the San Jose convention, we had begged for funny stories from Howard. He told us that during filming of "Nor Iron Bars a Cage", the scene where the scientists are tracking Vincent down and turn their van's lights on him, causing Vincent to throw up his arm... during the rehearsal, Ron did just what he was supposed to, then shouted, "No, I said BUD LITE!"

Howard also confirmed that it was not Ron who played the pan-handler in the "What Rough Beast" street scene. He seemed as confused as many of us as to why people would keep insisting that it was Ron. I had asked David Schwartz the same question. "That was at Ron's recording signing at the Beverly Center in July) and David had said that Ron has never done a cameo in the show. David, on the other hand, did one in "The Rest is Silence" as the man in the park at the beginning picking up trash, and in the pilot, as the attorney who escorts Carol from the DA's office out to her hideout.

Did you know that HOward also was in the show? He was the video man at Laura's deposition in "Impossible Silence". He said it took all day to get that done.

P.K. Simons was on a writer's panel, and the talk was fairly general. He said that he had only written feature films, and that was what sold his talents to the B&B team. You may remember that he wrote "A Fair and Perfect Knight", one of the most touching shows of last season. He looks about Howard's age (28) with dark curly hair and a ready smile.

David Greenlee was apparently under strict orders not to reveal anything specific about the new season (sound familiar?) but he did say that Thursday, he had gone on location, that just about everyone in the cast from Below was there, and that he got to wear 'Above ground' clothes.

When he was asked about the new season, David looked thoughtful. He said if he had been asked that question a week earlier, he might have had doubts about how well the new storyline would go over, but now (and he smiled broadly) he thought it would do very well.

David says he's interested in reading all the fanzines (hint to you writers) and that he really loves the show. We said he really didn't know much about it when he went to film "Shades of Grey", except that Roy Dotrice was on it. This apparently Intimidated him. He says he didn't know enough about Ron to be intimidated by him for a couple of days!

When he speaks of Vincent, David gets a warm look on his cherubic face. He said more than once, "He is beautiful." Obviously, David loves Vincent as much as the rest of us. Some time before BAB, David worked with Linda, and that was another reason he was glad to get a part on the show. He seems genuinely fond of her, as a friend, not just as a co-worker.

The only hints David let slip were that when Vincent hurts, everyone Below hurts... and th^'re all hurting a lot in the beginning. I guess we're in for more angst. When asked about Ron Koslow, David described him as passionate. He sees a lot of Vincent in Ron, which is only natural, since Ron Koslow created the character.

Well, that's about it for now. Overall, I was impressed by the hope that everyone involved the show seems to have. There are obviously rocky times ahead for the characters, but from the little knowing smiles, I can only assume that there will be complicated twists and turns leading to resolutions we can't yet imagine.

The dream will endure. [27]

Los Angeles: November 18-19, 1989

[November 18-19, 1989]: Creation's salute to "Beauty and the Beast" for Los Angeles was held on the weekend before Thanksgiving. I flew out to Los Angeles, and shared a sales table with Sharon Wells.

Creation lined up guests George R.R. Martin, Jay Acovone, and Tony Jay. Judy Evans brought a breathtaking array of costumes used in the third-season shooting. Howard Gordon, who had been originally scheduled, did not attend. George Martin indicated that he and Alex (Gansa, Howard's writing partner) have sold a screenplay, and that there had been a conflict with the convention. (Congratulations Howard and Alex!)

It was most interesting. Many fans mentioned as they stopped at our table that they felt the tension was high: everyone was worried about Catherine' future as reported in the tabloids, and they wanted her future, figuratively, not literally, laid to rest. By the end of the convention, however, most of the fans seemed saddened, but much more relaxed. It was as though they could pursue their private mourning, and expect from the movie and subsequent episodes, no miracle shower-dream-cure devices so commonly used in other series.

The attendance was also interesting. Fans came from all over the countiy, but the total gate receipts were around six hundred and fifty people. The guests were entertaining. Jay Acovone was funny and relaxed, and George Martin was his usual original self.

The art show was a travesty: pieces submitted were laid against the wall behind the registration table, and no one ever got to see the art displayed, or know the winners. The art for sale, both in the sales room and elsewhere, was outstanding, however, and there were new pieces available which I had not previously seen.

The drama contest and trivia event were predictable. The costume contests had some nice ones, with Jay Smith's wonderful "Vincent" costume complete with the makeup one of the best. George Martin had sound advice for anyone trying their hand at "spec" scripts, and/or wanting to get started at television writing. He discussed "spec" scripts, As a vehicle to possibly get an agent, or as entree, a calling card if you will, into a producer's office. He stressed that they rarely sell, but are a sample of your work which can be used to determine some of your abilities in the genre.


The camaraderie among most of the fans seemed high, although there were the inevitable cliques. It seems that many of the fans have banded together in an effort to keep Catherine's memory close. Despite the fact many say they are ambivalent about the December 12th return, I believe most of the fans are determined to further the spirit of the show, no matter how the characters are thinned out...

All in all, it was a pleasant, if quick, weekend. The hotel was good, and that made it even moreso. I had heard that the San Jose hotel was indescribably terrible. [28]


A 1990 Creation Con National Tour Program Booklet

This is a 15-page booklet that includes:

  • a bunch of ads for comic shops, a zine, a fan club (The Friends of Doctor Who)
  • some fan art (not credited!)
  • the official names of the people in charge of the Creation Cons
  • "Shatner!," a three-page article by Adam Malin about "The Creation/William Shatner Trek 5 Promotional Tour" (anecdotes promoting Shatner, some photos)
  • centerfold is "The Creation Star Trek Cabaret" (has many photos of some Trek stars onstage for a "gala Night Club Cabaret" in New York City on September 29, 1989. Includes George Takei, Nichelle Nichols, Michael Dorn, Jonathan Frakes, Walter Koenig, and Grace Lee Whitney.
  • a two-page calendar of the planned 1990 Creation Cons; there were 73

Unknown City (New York?): January 1990

Dean Stockwell was a guest. It was his first con appearance.

"STARLOG FESTIVAL - January 12-13, Buena Park Hotel, Anaheim, CA. Announced guests will be Patrick Stewart, Denise Crosby, Kevin Peter Hall, Bill Mumy and others yet to be announced. Preferred Reserved Seating is $51.00, and general admission is $15.50 per day. To order advance tickets, call 1-(800)-TV ALIVE."

San Diego: March 10-11, 1990

At the March 10-11, 1990 Creation Con in San Diego at the Bahia Hotel, Roy Dotrice (the actor who portrayed "Father") made comments to fans about how he'd had a private conversation with a fan who did not like third season, one in which he referred to her and others who did not like the third season of the show as "bad seed and people who had to be brought around to a correct way of thinking."

Roy lashed out very angrily at the third-season critics, especially the Michigan group and the person who sent a bunch of dead, black roses to Witt Thomas in protest of the death of romance. [29]

Probably the most newsworthy thing was Roy Dotrice telling us that he, Ron, Linda, and Jay got together for dinner Roy sat across from Linda, who was breast-feeding Dalton, so Roy said he was "paying a lot of attention to Dalton." [30]

New York City: March 10-11, 1990

Jay Acovone was a guest.

Tacoma: May 26-27, 1990

"On May 26 & 27, Jay Acovone (Joe Maxwell) will guest-star at Creation's next Beauty and the Beast Salute" at the Aton Hotel in Tacoma, Washington. There will be a video presentation at this convention of costumes from Beauty and the Beast, as well as fan-produced B&B music videos (Creation would like to see what you have produced, so bring your VHS tapes along!)" [31]

Los Angeles: June 1990

DeForest Kelley was a guest.

Seattle: September 1-2, 1990

DeForest Kelley was a guest. Con Report:

I must 'Say that this was definitely the best convention I've gone to, but I'm sure De can take most, if not all, of the credit for, that! We passed up buying the $50 Preferred Seating tickets because we could only attend one day and therefore would only get half of its benefit. What a mistake! We thought we'd end up sitting so far back that we might as well have Just bought the $15 tickets. The Preferred Seating, as it turned out, was in the front center of the first row and for several rows straight back from there.

It was into these seats that De threw his copy of "The Dream Goes On." He definitely made some fan's day doing that.

They saved the best (DeForest Kelley's appearance) for last on Sunday with De scheduled to come on stage at 4 P.M. We were sitting on pins and needles at about five or ten minutes to 4:00 when they announced that De told them that he didn’t mind coming on early. He entered to a thundering standing ovation that got even louder (if that was possible) when he got up on stage and with one hand parted the fingers of his other hand into the Vulcan Salute and let go and it stayed that way. Finally we all quieted down and De took out his glasses and put them on. He said that now we all looked prettier and everyone clapped at that. Then he commented on our clean air and pretty state — as if he had to win our hearts or approval! Next he treated us to a reading of “The Dream Goes On". For any of you who have not heard this, let me tell you it is fantastic. After he had read and tossed that poem into the audience, he read the beginning of his new poem, which will be finished after movie #6.

During the con I had planned to wish De and Carolyn a happy anniversary and at first was too chicken to raise my hand. Then people kept presenting De with gifts and I thought, "Someone is going to beat me to it, because one of these ' gifts is going to turn out to be an anniversary gift," and I raised my hand. To my great surprise, I was picked the first time I did this, which really made my day- maybe my whole year! — and De seemed pleased that someone remembered. I was quite angry with myself because.I should also have asked for a hug while I had his attention. I lost a chance of a lifetime there! Instead I watched several other women and children getting hugs. I also noticed, that whenever someone would come up on stage for a hug or to present a gift De would say something nice about them. It’s hard to imagine how REALLY SPECIAL he really is until you see him in person. During the question and answer session, I looked over and saw my three year old daughter and five-year old son with their hands raised and I questioned them about what they planned to ask De. "For a hug!" they both replied. All three of us walked out saying We wanted to be hugged by "Dr. McCoy". To this, my husband would roll his eyes skyward. I asked him, "And who’s tongue were we tripping over at Nichelle Nichols’ convention?"

One of the questions someone asked De was whether he1d worked with any of the other cast members before Trek and he said that Nimoy once reminded him that they had worked together long ago on a show where De played a doctor, and in this episode ("Man of Violence", Virginian television series) he let Nimoy die. Of course, these things sound a lot funnier with De telling them! Another question he was asked is to tell a funny story about being recognized in public and De said that about a week before he met up with Richard Crenna while shopping and they stopped and talked for a while. When they were done and Richard left, someone came up to De and asked incredulously if that was Richard Crenna he was just talking to, and De said yes, it was. The Crenna fan said they'd been wanting to get Richard to sign something... and then, recognizing De, they had cried, "My God! YOU'RE DeFOREST KELLEY!!!"


The only thing I found disappointing was that we didn't get to see Mrs. Kelley during the con. (Typists's note: Mrs. Kelley was at the convention — getting along GREAT on her new hip. Incidentally — but alas... she has threatened to shoot De if he ever brings her up on stage again. You don't want the world's happiest marriage to come to a screeching halt, do you???)

In conclusion, I must say this... a convention with De as host is worth any amount of travel time and expense and I am really regretting not being able to attend OktoberTrek. Well, maybe I'll get to meet you all at the next big anniversary convention in L.A.? Here is a warning to any who have, not yet seen De in person: it is a very ADDICTIVE experience and a little like Lay's Potato Chips... One just ISN'T enough! I just want to say thank you from the bottom of our hearts, De, for giving us this wonderful experience that I know we will all hold dear for the rest of our lives. We Love You! [32]

New York City: November 23-25, 1990

It was held at the Penta Hotel.

Guests included Ron Perlman, Scott Bakula, and DeForest Kelley.

It was at this con that Beth Blighton presented Ron Perlman with her art The Fire and the Rose. See that page for more.

There were fan vids shown at this con:

Before Ron came onstage, three very romantic, Vincent and Catherine music videos were presented —"Waiting for You" by Richard Marx & "Wind Beneath My Wings" by Bette Midler, compiled by Kim Taylor, and "After All" by Peter Cetera & Cher, compiled by a Creation employee — which Ron watched from the back of the room. He then came to the front of the ballroom, dressed completely in black—as he quite often is! [33]

Con Reports:

Jonathan Frid was a guest, Forrey Ackerman [sic], Isaac Asimov, DeForest Kelley and - ready for this? - Mark Goddard from Lost in Space! Frid was boring, Kelley charmed us all, I've been a fan of Asimov for years, but when Mark Goddard took the stage three grown women vanished instantly and it was three pseudo-sixteen year olds who jumped up and down in and out of their seats screeching "Omigod! Omigod! He's gorgeous! Omigod!" Yep, [we] went bye-bye for a while but we're feeling much better now! [34]

I was not staying at the hotel where the con was being held and soon learned that I had to take a 15 minute taxi ride to get to the Penta Hotel. I always knew I loved De— and I thought I knew how much I loved him... I WAS WRONG! After 15 minutes in a New York taxi I came to realize there was ABSOLUTELY NOTHING I wouldn't do for De! (I also found out that although I smoke, I can hold my breath for a really long time!) Before this experience, I didn't know that once a New York taxi driver started on his way to your given destination, he doesn't stop — for ANYTHING! Money in hand (.. and heart in my throat) I managed to arrive at the hotel unscathed. Although Creation had a large list of guests, I didn't get to the Penta until mid afternoon. I was there for one reason, and one reason only ; DEFOREST KELLEY!


On both days Richard Arnold gave his usual fantastic slide show and STTNG, and talked briefly about ST 6 being underway with Nick Meyer as director. Also mentioned was a "possible" filming date for ST 6 being March or April (...or was that De who said that? Gulp! I don't remember!) During Richard's talk someone questioned him about the "old" cast. Richard quickly (and very diplomatically) corrected the person by saying, "Please don't refer to them as the 'old' cast... they are, after all, the ORIGINALS! (Right on, Richard!) [35]



New York City: February 16-17, 1991

At the Penta Hotel, "Creation's 25 Celebration," also known as the "Captain Con" as two of the guests were William Shatner and Patrick Stewart.

New York City: April 1991?

April 1991? New York City (This con was split between two hotels that were two blocks apart. "Because of the space problems, we were not able to do as much alternate programming as I would have liked (no panels, etc.),but we did have a video room at night, complete with an orgy of music-video-watching! Kim Taylor's versions of "Hungry Eyes" and "Uptown Girl" and (my favorite) "Right Here, Waiting For You" were all fantastic." --part of a MUCH longer con report in Tunneltalk v.2 n.3, May 1991)

Calgary: August 31-September, 1991

At the Westin Hotel, Walter Koenig was a guest of honor.


Universal City, CA: March 1, 1992

See Leap Con/"Quantum Con".

Vancouver, British Columbia: April 28, 1992

Con Report:

Have you ever gone to a Creation Con? Well, on April 28 I went to Vancouver to see Patrick Stewart. It was quite an experience. The convention was enjoyable at times, but mostly disappointing.

The con was held at P.N.E grounds in the arena. The arena was divided into two parts; one part was the stage and the other part was for the dealers. At the con the ticketmasters were very rude,and wouldn’t let me keep my ticket receipt. Also, they ran out of program guides, so you didn’t know what was going on. I was determined to get a program guide so I happened to acquire one. I was disappointed to learn that Patrick Stewart was going to make only one appearance and there would be no autographing sessions.

Throughout the day there were slide and film presentations. Some events were boring and dragged on a bit such as Patrick Stewart rehearsing for a production. Some of the days other events were: previews of some new movies being released this year, an auction of Star Trek stuff, slides of Next Generation shows yet to be aired. This con was not well organized. For instance, the speaker was talking about Star Trek VI, “Captain Sulu will be... “Excuse me, will you please clear the aisle because of fire regulations,” “Captain of the...” “Volunteers please make sure the people are not standing in the aisle and don’t stand against the wall.” “...Excelsior.” Interruptions like this happened in most of the presentations. Finally when Patrick Stewart came it was exciting. He gave a good speech about his life, acting career and humourous moments of his life, plus he answered the people’s questions. It was the highlight of my day.

In the dealers area most items were overpriced. It was so crowded you couldn’t see anything and con-goers were as rude as the merchants. I waited until a show was on and then went to the dealers area as it was not so badly crowded then.

Overall, I would recommend that if you want to go to a Creation Con, go only if you really want to see a particular guest star. But beware: it will be expensive and people will be rude. [37]


San Francisco: January 30-31

DeForest Kelley was a guest.

Los Angeles: February 13 & 14

See Leap Con.

New York City: June 26-27

At the Ramada Inn, Armin Shimerman and DeForest Kelley were guests.

Con Reports: There is a very long con report in The DeForest Dispatch #37.

Phoenix: August 14

At the Veteran Memorial Coliseum. DeForest Kelley was a guest.

Dearborn: August 21-22

DeForest Kelley was a guest.

Valley Forge: October 23-24

DeForest Kelley was a guest.

From The DeForest Dispatch #38: "Originally dubbed a "Grand Slam Show," this Creation con is now being called "Doctor Con." The other guests scheduled are Gates McFadden and Walter Koenig. (Walter has cancelled some of his con appearances but not this one... so far.) The official Hotel is the Sheraton Plaza (215) 337-2000 and the, rates are $86 or $105."


Pasadena: April 2-4, 1994

From the article, "Con... or a con job?" by Sue Keenan in The DeForest Dispatch #35 (Oct/Nov/Dec 1993):

There has been a disturbing tendency during the past few years for conventions to advertise guest stars that haven't been confirmed. A couple of the professional conventions are especially guilty of this practice. By "confirmed," I mean the convention has a contract, signed by the guest, in their hot little hands. Until then nothing is committed on either side. Good, reputable conventions won't advertise a guest until they have signed on the dotted line, and many guests will sign a contract up to a year before the event to allow ample time to advertise.

What you have to watch out for are con flyers that say things like "tentative" or "subject to availability" or "scheduled to appear" rather than "confirmed". Every guest who signs a contract has a 15-45 day "out clause" which allows them to cancel an appearance for a good reason. But they try their best not to use it, and if they do, some will actually find their own replacement. The guests are seldom to blame for not appearing at a convention.

The reason I bring this subject up is a Creation Convention scheduled in Pasadena, April 2-4. Among their "tentative" guests are Patrick Stewart, Jonathan Frakes and Colm Meaney. All three of these actors are in the cast of the play "Every Good Boy Deserves Favour" and "EGBDF" is scheduled to be playing somewhere in the U.S. every weekend in April. I'm sure Creation thought they could get these actors when they put out their flyers but it looks doubtful that they will. (Creation has pulled off miracles before so don't completely discount them.)

This convention, like any that advertises a "tentative" guest, should be checked on before you plunk down your hard earned money for registration, hotel, and air fare. Most cons have a telephone number for information, so give them a call and ask if they have a signed contract. If they do they'll tell you. If they don't you'll get the royal run around. It's the smart thing to do when planning to attend any convention.

Con Reports: There is a very long con report in The DeForest Dispatch #37.

Pasadena: March 18-20, 1994


Pasadena: November 1995

Con Report:

I'm probably repeating what others might write, but I want to say some words about the Creation 30th year convention in Pasadena in November, As a K/S mini-con, it was wonderful! Me, my long-time ST friend Kathy who finally got to meet some of these marvelous women—you—I talk about, Alice, [S B], [C J], [A L], [J L], Marcy, [K R], [J S], [C S], Anna W. from England. It was great! So much ST, so much K/S, so much friendship. And Heidi and Jessica, two new K/S'ers who we descended upon and gathered to our bosoms (snared into our clutches) by the one zine table. (K/S boxes sold out fast.) I wish I had had us when I first knew about K/S and was wandering the conventions hesitant to even talk to anyone, certainly not knowing what zines to buy. There was the usual dealers room madness -- a feeding frenzy. I got wonderful vintage stuff. My treasure: a gorgeous 1969 psychedelic Kirk and Spock poster, framed, cheap. At all the cons I've been to, the costumes are predominantly TNG or the movies, mostly what people can buy ready-made I guess, or else the amazing creations like the Borg, etc. But I have never seen so many extremely well done original series costumes as at this con. A number ol classic Klingons. sexy and threatening. A group of four Andorians Bele/Lokai. A Vulcan priestess, Mr. and Mrs. Harry Mudd. The Romulan Commander and her sub-commander, Shana (?), Kirk's drill thrall. And of course our Juliea, with her beautiful and intricate hand-made Romulan princess creations.

Here's something I loved: During a slide presentation about all the rest of the ST shows, they asked how did we like the Dax/Lenara DS9 episode, and the response was overwhelmingly positive, an auditorium full of cheers. Yeah!

Then...Bill and Leonard, sigh. It just wasn't right. It was charming at first, how DeForest came on and introduced some very special person (actor, director, writer, etc., etc.) who was his best friend, and of course it was both of them; and they both came on at the same time from opposite ends of the stage. But then the whole rest of the time, DeForest was physically in between them. What's wrong with this picture? Bill needed to be in the middle, where he belongs. Bill and Leonard were the whole time, until the very end, on opposite sides of the stage, and with a physical body separating them. It just bothered me; they weren't connecting like they would be if it was iust the two of them. Oh well.... They're both gorgeous and wonderful, however. I guess the 'getting old" gags were amusing, for a while, especially when Bill displayed his "muscle mass* and a flying kick. But then the audience questions were fucking asinine. (My grandmother's got 12 grandchildren and she... I came all the way's my birthday...I stood in line...can I have your autograph...a hug?) Doesn't seem there was one intelligent question that led to any interesting discussion by any of the three of them. [38]


Minneapolis: August 3, 1996

Con Reports: René Takes on the Twin Cities!


Pasadena: November 28-29, 1997

  • Babylon 5/Trek focus
  • some guests: Armin Shimerman, John DeLancie, Ethan Phillips, Bob Picardo, Nana Visitor, Jason Carter, Peter Jurasik, other B5 cast members, Bruce Boxleitner, Bill Mumy, Mira Furlan, Jerry Doyle, Richard Biggs, Marjorie Monaghan, and Steven Furst.

Con Reports: Plain & Simple #15, focus on Deep Space Nine.


San Francisco: August 1, 1998

Con Report: Armin Transcript


Las Vegas: November 13, 1999

Con Report: Subj: Vegas Con Report


Las Vegas: August 1-3, 2003

Con Report: Creation Con


Las Vegas: August 11-14, 2005

Con Report: Las Vegas Creation Convention



  1. ^ from The K/S Press #86
  2. ^ comments at Virgule-L, quoted anonymously (December 2, 1992)
  3. ^ Morgan Dawn's personal notes, accessed August 4, 2016.
  4. ^ from Starland News (summer 1987)
  5. ^ from IDIC #5 (1989)
  6. ^ from William Shatner Connection (fall 1991)
  7. ^ from The Blackwood Project #11 (1991)
  8. ^ Pat Heinske at The Wright Stuff, newsletter for U.S.S. Kitty Hawk
  9. ^ from MPH's notes, December 18, 1992
  10. ^ by Bob Vosseller in Constitution Comments #4
  11. ^ by Jason Genser in Constitution Comments #5
  12. ^ from Quest II #17
  13. ^ by Susan Ray from Communications Console (Jan/Feb 1986)
  14. ^ from Quest II #17
  15. ^ from Roberta Rogow in APA-Filk (August 1986). See it archived here.
  16. ^ from a fan in K/S & K.S. (Kindred Spirits) #19
  17. ^ from Starland News (summer 1987)
  18. ^ by Harold Feldman in Communications Console (Jan/Feb 1988)
  19. ^ from Season in U.U.S.A.S.W.F.C. Zine
  20. ^ from Passages #4
  21. ^ from Passages #5
  22. ^ from Crystal Rose Newsletter #36
  23. ^ This play could be Are You Lonesome Tonight?, or perhaps "Alibi for Murder."
  24. ^ from Aspects #2, which includes a photo
  25. ^ from Aspects #3
  26. ^ from Pipeline v.2 n.8 (August 1989)
  27. ^ from Pipedreams (September/December 1989)
  28. ^ from Pipedreams (September/December 1989)
  29. ^ as quoted in the April 1990 issue of Shadows of the City
  30. ^ as quoted in the April 1990 issue of Shadows of the City
  31. ^ from Pipeline v.3 n.4/5 (April/May 1990)
  32. ^ from The DeForest Dispatch #26
  33. ^ Tunneltalk Vol 1 No 9 (1990)
  34. ^ from Up Bubble #9
  35. ^ from a much longer report in The Deforest Dispatch #27
  36. ^ from Remember Love, Always
  37. ^ from Atavachron v.7 n.2 (1992)
  38. ^ from Come Together #24