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A "Creation Con" is a convention run by Creation Entertainment. Creation has been criticized for overcharging fans and running unpleasant glorified autograph sessions for new fans who don't know any better. They have also been highly successful at getting big name guests, which can make many of their cons highly attractive to fans who do prefer procons.

A later major competitor was Slanted Fedora.

A fan in 2003 wrote:
From what I’ve seen, all the Creation cons seem to have the same format. The guests speak and then sign autographs, there is a dealer’s room, and that is about it. No panels, no showing of films, etc. [1]

Also see cretin con and Fan Con.

Januarycon, Maycon...

Fans, at least in the Star Trek fandom in 1983 and 1984 referred to these cons by their month. "Januarycon," "Octobercon," and "Maycon." This could not have been a long-lasting practice, as no year was specified, and there was no anticipation that these cons would go on for decades. But at the time, "Creation Cons" were the only game in town.

NOTE: This does not apply to FebCon, which was its own thing.

Vid Shows and Vid Contests

Starting in the 1980s, Creation Con would bulk up its events by showing fan made music videos before the actor's panels. In most instances these vids were shown with the fan creator's permission. However, one instance involved the convention re-editing a Quantum Leap vid "Oh Boy" by California Crew and showing the vid without permission. This resulted in California Crew deciding to limit the distribution of their vids:
The distribution is erratic on song-tapes only if you don't make them yourself, really. Hanging around with Judy, I found that the MW vid-makers generally swap copies of their year's work. I don't think California Crew does anymore, though, since Creation got hold of one a copy of their 1991 tape and RE_MADE "You Can Call Me Al" and "Oh, Boy" and one other QL video and showed the RE-CUT versions at the LeapCon. California Crew are of the opinion that since the song and the TV show are copyright works, they can't copyright their vids, but I wonder if song-vids would fall under compilation-copyright, or even under whatever copyright holds for collages. So, because the commercial vipers swiped the videos and re-made them (it's not just that they were shown, it's that Creation re-did them, and not as well), nobody gets to see California Crew vids outside MediaWest. [2]

In the 1990s, Creation Con would request submissions of fanvids to be shown in a contest. The winner was offered a $100 gift certificate in their company merchandise store. Fans would occasionally submit their vids under their pseuds to avoid unwanted attention. In exchange for showing the vid, the fan vidder had to grant Creation Con a perpetual license to use their vids in their conventions and on their DVDs.[3]

1989 Example of Fan Promotion

Fans, who were eager to take what they could, often offered to promote "Creation Con" in their own amateur publications.

Fans also volunteered, or were recruited, by Creation Con to provide content, programming, and promotions. One example is The International Beauty and the Beast Convention.

A 2000 Press Release, Focus on Fandom, Inc.

This press release both gives some official history, as well as announces Creation Entertainment's relationship with Fandom, Inc., the latter known for its strong-arm tactics in its attempt to trademark the word "fandom" and for trying to shut down fan web sites. See Fandom, Inc. for more.


Acquisition of Top Live Events Producer and Licensed Merchandise Company Strengthens Fandom's Audience Reach and Marketing Efforts:

(SANTA MONICA, Calif.) December 6, 2000-Fandom, Inc. (, the pre-eminent media company focused on Expanded Reality Entertainment (ERE), announced today that it has completed the acquisition of Creation Entertainment. The Glendale, California-based company is the nation's leading producer of live events for fans of fantasy, science fiction and horror, and invented the concept of touring fan conventions almost 30 years ago.

Creation Entertainment was founded in 1971 and also designs, manufactures and distributes licensed merchandise based on popular motion picture and television properties including Star Trek, The Sopranos, Saturday Night Live, Farscape, Charmed and Xena: Warrior Princess.

"With the acquisition of Creation Entertainment, we will bring our audience an exciting new dimension to the Fandom experience," said Mark Young, CEO of Fandom, Inc. "Creation brings almost 30 years of successful convention expertise that extends the fan experience for global, enduring entertainment properties."

"Becoming part of the Fandom media network allows Creation to take our fan base to the next level," said Gary Berman, co-CEO of Creation Entertainment. "Fandom and Creation are a perfect match because our products and services appeal to the same passionate demographic, which has the power to make and extend the life of hit properties."

Creation Entertainment created the concept of touring fan conventions in the 1970's, beginning with comic book conventions and moving into touring shows for Star Trek, James Bond, The X-Files and Xena. Since then, Creation has produced more than 1,000 shows, garnering "A"-list celebrity appearances including George Lucas at its Official Star Wars Convention, Arnold Schwarzenegger at the Official Terminator Convention, and Jack Nicholson at the Fangoria Weekend of Horrors Convention. Hundreds of other celebrities have participated at Creation shows across the United States.

"As a company that celebrates fantastic entertainment in all media, Creation looks forward eagerly to bringing its special brand of fan entertainment to Fandom's worldwide audience. The combined assets of the Fandom Network make it a powerful destination for fans as they explore the subjects they love," said Adam Malin, the co-CEO who founded Creation Entertainment with Gary Berman. The company has 30 employees.

"Creation Entertainment brings the added excitement of live events to Fandom's already strong online and offline entertainment base," said Young. "The company's reputation as respected producer of fan conventions and merchandise allows Fandom to further its goal of being the leading source of entertainment and information for science fiction, horror and fantasy fans."

The Creation Entertainment purchase comes on the heels of Fandom's acquisition of Cinescape, a Chicago-based company that publishes a leading action/adventure/science fiction magazine focusing on film, television and new media and also owns and operates the popular Web site


Santa Monica, Calif. based Fandom, Inc. (, is a media company with multiple delivery platforms that operates the Internet's number-one choice for Expanded Reality EntertainmentTM (fantasy, science fiction, horror and online gaming.) Fandom is the trusted authority in these genres, providing fans a unique and compelling entertainment experience. The company also owns and operates Cinescape Magazine and, which cover television, film and new media.

Fandom's online platforms offer immersive online environments that combine content, commerce and community with an emphasis on fan participation. They feature news, in-depth articles, fan-generated content, chats, surveys and polls, sweepstakes and contests. also features an online shop specializing in genre merchandise and collectibles, as well as a print catalog distributed to 250,000 subscribers on a regular basis. Founded in July 1999, the company's investors include Redpoint Ventures, RRE Ventures, Wasserstein Adelson Ventures and Entertainment Media Ventures.

Fan Comments


Back in the 1970s, mundanes woke up and started noticing how much fun Trekkers were having at their Trek cons- and how money, lots of money, changed hands. So the businessmen got into the act. These non-fen got together and started running Trek cons. These cons were, and still are, very popular because they have the money to pay the STAR TREK stars to make an appearance, which draws in crowds of Trekkers. The Creationcons got so popular that they probably pushed out the fan-run cons that used to be held In the same areas. Creationcons are quite different from other conventions. First there are no name badges; they just stamp your hand for the day. Second, all they have are just two rooms. There may be thousands of fen in each room, but it's still just two rooms. The auditorium where the stars speak, and the Dealer's Room, where fanzines, photos and practically all types of Trek memorabilia you can think of are sold, and that's it. No panels, no filking, no place to just hang out, like a con suite, and certainly no room parties, because Creationcons close promptly at 7.00 pm- The thing about no room parties is gradually changing, though - this year (and last) the ST:TNG club ENTERPRISE AMERICA did have a room party, and this year Creationcon had another first - a masquerade (well, they're learning...). [4]


Creation Cons are absolutely the worst in Amarillo. We didn't even get an actor. Just tapes of the stars' appearances at other Creation Conventions. [5]


As many of you know (and some of you don't), a couple of years ago, Creation (a for-profit organization) tried to get all of the ST:TNG actors to sign contracts to do Creation Cons exclusively. That's right - no fan-run convention would be allowed to have a guest star from TNG. Even though all but Marina Sirtis turned them down this did not endear Creation to Star Trek fans, and we've been carrying a pretty big chip on our (collective) shoulder against Creation ever since. However, I feel that they are realizing the errors of their ways and are trying to make amends to the members of STARFLEET, as well as to the members of all those other clubs that dream of being Starfleet when they grow up. (Just kidding!) Or, maybe they are just kissing up to us because they are afraid of losing business. I don't claim to know for sure, but I, for one, am going to give them the benefit of the doubt and see what happens. [6]


1976: Sample Con Flyers


1977: Sample Con Flyers


Atlanta: May 1983

From The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, 5/7/1983: "THE ATLANTA CREATION CONVENTION. Show features pre-views of up-coming science-fiction horror films, exhibits; over 150,000 comic books; Marvel Comics artists, Klaus Janson, for "Daredevil"; Bob Wiacek, an inker for the "X-Men"; Ron Wilson, for "The Thing." Also appearing, Walter Koneig, from "Star Trek". 11 a.m.- 7 p.m. Saturday-Sunday, May 7-8. $8 per day. Hyatt Regency Atlanta. 265 Peachtree St. (Downtown Atlanta). For more details, 1-800-645-6579."

Creation Con - Atlanta - 1983 - AJC.jpg

Known to be in attendance were Dorothy Dillon, Mari Key (a.k.a Meredith Rushton), Randall Landers and Eric L. Watts, who tape-recorded Walter Koenig's one-hour Q&A on Saturday, May 7. In a May 28, 2017, Facebook post[1], after listening to the 34-year-old recording, Watts said "During the Q&A, Koenig talks a lot about the latest film, Star Trek II, and what little he already knows about Star Trek III, which he said will start shooting in August for a Summer 1984 release."


New York City: January 7-8, 1984

A "Salute to Star Trek" -- New York City

Con Report: New York City: January 7-8, 1984

'CONVENTION 84' by Bob Vosseller. It seems every convention I review gets bigger and better than the last. Creation's first Star Trek convention of 1984 was held in New York at the Roosevelt Hotel on January 7th and 8th. I was able to attend both days of the event and have twice as much to review. One other difference is that this time the chapter became part of the convention, and was listed among the many activities on the convention schedule. (See schedule)

The convention began with Saturday's noon preview film of the movie Dune. A Star Trek filmstrip followed. No convention would be complete without the annual blooper reel.

Howard Weinstein's presentation fallowed. Howard commented on the progress of Treasure's Trade, his new Trek book, and his part in the collaboration of V-East Coast Crisis. He also spoke about future Trek books and of the work of his fellow writer Ann Crispin. Howard always makes an entertaining presentation.

A Trek trivia test was next on the agenda and a special Trek auction followed.

Mike Barr, writer of the new DC Star Trek comic, and the new Batman and The Outsiders title took the stage next. Mike talked about his plans tor the Trek title and the direction it will take for the summer adaption of ST III.

Probably the most eagerly awaited event was the special slideshow preview of Star Trek III. Let me tell you, the Grand Ballroom was packed with fans glued to the widescreen in awe.

The preview featured scenes of Leonard Nimoy in his role as director. Other slides included a shot of Nicolas Meyer who visited the set, George Takei taking direction orders and Merrit Butrick as David Marcus. That wasn't all. Two of the most spectacular slides featured Robin Curtis in her role as the new Lt. Saavik, and Nichelle Nichols as Uhura posed in a transporter room packing a phaser. Then there were a few bridge shots, showing all our old favorites in civilian attire.

A number of aliens will be in ST III. Several were shown in addition to Christopher Lloyd in full Klingon makeup as Kroug. A shot ot Saavik and David finding Spock's coffin on the Genesis World was also featured. That raised a number of cheers from the audience. So did the shot of Kirk's battle with Kroug. One of the last slides showed a battered Kirk looking over to someone. Could it have been Spock?

Walter Koenig took the stage next and as part of his presentation, interviewed his character of Chekov. This he did by switching voices. It was humorous to say the least. He commented during the question and answer period that most of the more amusing dialogue went to James Doohan. "It's DeForest Kelley's film" Koenig said. He was reluctant to say more but did speculate on the possibility of ST IV. He also held a shouting contest and literally died on stage.

The art contest featured many talented fan artists. That was the last event of the day.

The dealers room which is always a featured attraction of any con featured items ranging from ST comics to Indiana Jones T-shirts, from Dr. Who records to nude Shanna posters.

The Grand Ballroom's anteroom area housed a number of tables including our own. The chapter's table featured a large poster which included examples of Starfleet membership materials, a beautiful chapter banner, and a poster which included our department emblems.

Table items for sale included Genesis, newsletters, CIT's, and the first issue of Hailing Frequencies, a new fanzine project from the Communications Department. Sales went well for all chapter items. Hailing Frequencies sold out in less than three hours. Towards the end of the first day, we were able to attract the interest of an NBC news film crew. Commodore Genser and I hammed it up for the cameras and ended up on the eleven o'clock news. We even managed a few lines of dialogue for the folks at home. Jason, Alex, Karl and I stayed on at the Roosevelt Hotel and awaited our debut on the news. Believe me. that was an adventure in itself.

Sunday the con began for us even before the fans were allowed in. The table seemed to be the official greeting point for those waiting for the first event of the day, a repeat of Saturday's first slideshow.

Arnold Garguilo's demonstration of his special effects and makeup talent followed.

Jo Duffy, writer of Marvel Comic's Star Wars, then spoke about her plans for that title.

An open meeting of our chapter followed. Jason, Alex. Karl, Laura Hoffman, Anna Iwanow and myself took the stage to inform the audience about Starfleet, our chapter, and our accomplishments of the past two years.

A ST/fantasy costume parade followed. It consisted mainly of young children. The cutest was a four year old Luke Skywalker. Allan Asherman, the author of the Star Trek Compendium, and The Making of Star Trek II, then made his presentation. He spoke about the work involved in researching both projects. Allan was extremely interesting and shed some light on little known facts about the TV series. Watch for a special article on his presentation and an in depth interview with him in the second issue of Hailing Frequencies.

Waller Koenig returned to talk about his career as Pavel Chekov, and answered a few questions. He held an autograph session, but was forced to leave before it was complete.

Howard Weinstein closed the day reading a few chapters from Treasure's Trade, and made reference to a possible sequel to Covenant of the Crown. He added that his co-author on the 'V' project, Ann Crispin, will be writing a sequel to her best-selling novel, 'Yesterday's Son.'

During the auction and slideshow, ABC was filming various fans for their news coverage of the convention. The table and myself made a brief appearance on ABC's local six o'clock news. Sales of our items improved from Saturday's coverage, and each of us who served at the table had a lot of fun meeting enthusiastic and sometimes, downright weird fans.

Januarycon was a huge success that was reminiscent of the early Star Trek cons. It was also a marked success for the chapter. [7]

New York City: May 12-13, 1984

Con Report New York City: May 12-13, 1984

the second page of the May 12-13, 1984 con

The annual May Creation Convention, held on the 12 and 13 of May at the Roosevelt Hotel in midtown Manhattan was a smashing success for both Creation Conventions and the Constitution. Thousands of individuals attended and virtually everyone enjoyed themselves. Maycon 84 marked the 1st anniversary of our fanzine, Genesis.

The con began at 11:00, with people being let in ten-fifteen minutes early. We had our table set up and were prepared [for the most part] for the ensuing crowd which rushed in upon us. Copies of Constitution Comments and Hailing Frequencies sold like they were going out of style.

During the course of the weekend. Creation ran a number of previews from many upcoming films including: Gremlins, Supergirl, Ladyhawke, Ghostbusters, Buckaroo Banzai, Dreamscape, and, of course. Star Trek III - The Search For Spock. No Star Trek convention would be complete without the classic blunders of the Enterprise crew, which were shown in the popular Star Trek Blooper Reel.

We didn't have 'official chapter stage-time,' but I was invited up on stage with Adam Malin. the president of Creation Conventions, to help out in the Star Trek Trivia Game. The audience asked questions of a special panel and if they stumped the experts, they would be awarded a prize. That proved to be alot of fun.

The first guest on Saturday was Mark Lenard, the only actor to portray all three of Star Trek's major aliens. He was very entertaining, and informative as well. Mark spoke about his career, his part in Star Trek, both past and present, and about his other contributions to the world of entertainment. Then, Mark held a question and answer session which the crowd loved. Fans asked Mark all sorts of questions on his career and on Star Trek.

This was followed by the famous Creation No Minimum Bid Auction, which lasted for about an hour. Great fun ensued as fans watched packages of Star Trek and science fiction stuff auctioned off to the highest bidder!

The next guest was James Doohan, who as you know, plays the chief engineer of the Enterprise, Commander Montgomery Scott. He packed the fans into the Grand Ballroom just as Mark Lenard had. Jim did some of his famous accents and told the fens stories and anecdotes from both his career, and Star Trek. Then he held a question and answer session. The fans asked Jim about his career and, of course Star Trek.

After Jim's presentation, he and Mark held an autograph session in the area outside of the Grand Ballroom. Adam put me in charge of 'crowd control and security' around Jim and Mark while they were signing autographs. That was tots of fun!

Alex tells me that Sunday was just as entertaining as Saturday. I can't say too much about Sunday, because transportation problems prevented me from attending. The enclosed con schedule should tell you what events occurred on Sunday.

All in all, Maycon 84 was a fantastic success and the chapter got alot more exposure both to the stars, and the public. [8]


Anaheim: March 3-4, 1985

There was a con March 3 and 4, 1985 in Anaheim, California. It was mentioned in TREKisM #41/42 (which also includes some photos), as well as in the editorial by Della Van Hise in Banned in Anaheim.

New York City, June 1985

There was a con in New York in June 1985. Leonard Nimoy was a guest. The zine Nome #8 was sold there.


New York City: June 1986

New York City: June 1986Con Report

Why do I go to these things? Because they give me a free table, and I get a lot of money, and ego-boo. For this I also take a lot of hassle... in this case, the Luboviches were having their Annual Dinner, and the upstairs ballroom where I set up the store had to be cleared... which meant I lost the better part of Sunday's sales. I did get a full 1/2 hour set, however.. Oh well, win some, lose some. [9]

Anaheim: June 21-22, 1986

Oakland: March 9-10, 1986

Con Report: Oakland: March 9-10, 1986

Creation Con held one of their multi-media conventions at the Oakland Hyatt Hotel over the weekend of March 9th and 10th. The Star Trek guest celebrity was Robin Curtis, Saavik of ST III. The audience on both days were charmed by the gracious, warm, lovely and friendly young actress.

RC opened both sessions by asking immediately for questions from the audience, quickly adding (in anticipation of someone's question), that she was 29 and single. On both days, one of the first questions asked was if Saavik would be pregnant in ST IV, and if so, who was the father? After telling us that she wasn't "very good" at keeping secrets, RC was very good at being evasive in directly answering the question, hinting that there is a possibility that Saavik could be pregnant, but also indicating that there is a possibility the issue will be left open in ST TV.

Audiences on both days were also quite interested in RC's interpretation of the Saavik character, versus the interpretation of Kirstie Alley. RC told us that as she is very impressionable, she hasn't seen ST II, and therefore couldn't compare her performance to KA's. RC was very gentle in reminding us that not only is a character dependent upon the actor, but also the director, and that Leonard Nimoy, as the resident Vulcan, guided her performance.

When asked what were her best and worst experiences in her acting career, the audience on March 9th was honored to share a very personal, moving experience for RC in her best category. RC is also a singer, and appeared as Aldonza (Dulcinea), in the musical Man from La Mancha. During the rape scene of Aldonza by the muleteers, her performance was so effective, that her father, sitting in the audience, became upset. RC also added to her best category, that during the filming of ST III, her father, Robert B. Curtis, became very ill, and subsequently passed away. However, before he died, RC was aware that her father was proud of her and that he knew she could take care of herself as an actress.

In the worst category, is the "David is dead" line from ST in. RC said she cringes every time she hears it. During the filming, she tried to emote the line in several different forms, one with a "break" in her voice, but again was directed by LN to read the line without emotion.

Would RC want to sing in any future ST movies? Of course, but not before Nichelle Nichols or else Nichelle would "kick her butt!"

RC is not a "Trekker". She has not seen either ST I or II, and as a child only saw the TV series sporadically, and then only because her older brother was a "Trekker", and he watched it often. RC's childhood impression of ST was that ST was a very adult and kinky series. RC referred to "Plato's Stepchildren", and the scene where Kirk is forced to kiss Uhura and Spock to kiss Christine. This has been a fantasy of her's ever since. Also, the scene from 'Miri", where Rand asked Kirk to look at her legs, and then tore open the top of her tunic.

RC was asked about the final sequence of ST III, where Spock climbs back down the temple stairs, looking into the faces of each of the ST crew. Why was Saavik unable to inset Speck's gaze, looking away from Spock? Was this RC's interpretation, or was she directed by LN to look away? RC answered, stating that just before the scene was shot, LN took her aside, and standing close to her, leaned in, whispering into her ear. "How would you react if you were to suddenly meet a lover you hadn't seen in seme time?" LN asked RC, stepping back to watch her reaction. RC said she. blushed, and looked away from LN, unable to meet his gaze. 'That's how I want you to react in this next scene," LN told RC.

Well, if Saavik is pregnant, that explains at least who the father is!

The other scene that is special to RC, was the sequence on Genesis, when Saavik and David find the young Spock during the blizzard. Because RC was concerned that she be true to Saavik in her performance, she would watch the dallies of each day's shooting, along with LN. They were ahead of schedule on the filming, when that sequence was filmed. Watching the dailies the next day, LN decided to re-shoot the sequence, adding the bit where the young Spock reaches out and touches Saavik's nose, and then touches his own.


After each session, RC was so kind to sign autographs for the fans. I stood at the tail end of the line on March 9th, and approximately 45 minutes later, got to RC. RC was smiling, very excited, and took time to talk with each fan. [10]


Boston: May 30, 1987

A con report is in Avon Club Newsletter #29.

Philadelphia: Late 1987

A con reports are in Avon Club Newsletter #31.


New York City: January 1-3, 1988

CREATION CONVENTIONS presented "STARLOG Salutes STAR WARS: The First Ten Years." The con was planned for New York January 1-3, 1988 at the PENTA Hotel Featured attractions included: famous guest stars, giant dealers room, the STAR WARS trilogy films, Lucasfilm previews, STAR WARS trivia contest, behind-the-scenes slideshows, auctions, STAR WARS costume parade, comedy skits/sound-alikes, special f/x slideshows, fan club info.

Con Report: New York City: January 1-3, 1988

We all understand how stars tend to cancel at the last minute sometimes, but events such as the Tribute to Harrison Ford slide show that was to be held at a particular San Francisco Creation Con in January of 1988, should have taken place as advertised or advance notice given of the cancellation! These people seem to forget that there are fans traveling from other cities to these things, and usually fairly destitute (this is an important matter of consideration, don't you think?), who are more than angry and disappointed to have spent all aforementioned time and money in vain simply because something was falsely advertised! It happened to be the sole reason that we wanted to attend. [11]

Anaheim: January 30-31, 1988

Sheraton Anaheim, guests were Jonathan Frakes and Jonathan Harris.

San Jose: February 13-14, 1988

San Jose, RED LION INN. "Salute to Star Wars." Featured attractions included: famous guest stars, giant dealers room, the STAR WARS trilogy films, Lucasfilm previews, STAR WARS trivia contest, behind-the-scenes slideshows, auctions, STAR WARS costume parade, comedy skits/sound-alikes, special f/x slideshows, fan club info.

New York City: February 27-28, 1988

Penta Hotel, Manhattan, New York, one guest was Marina Sirtis.

New Haven: March 19-20, 1988

Park Plaza Hotel, New Haven CT.

Dearborn: April 16-17, 1988

Dearborn Civic Center in Dearborn, MI

Detroit: May 14-15, 1988

Detroit at the HYATT REGENCY DEARBORN. "Salute to Star Wars." Featured attractions included: famous guest stars, giant dealers room, the STAR WARS trilogy films, Lucasfilm previews, STAR WARS trivia contest, behind-the-scenes slideshows, auctions, STAR WARS costume parade, comedy skits/sound-alikes, special f/x slideshows, fan club info.

Los Angeles: June 18, 1988

The Creation Con in that encompassed June 18th was one that featured Ron Perlman (his first con) and other Beauty and the Beast (TV) actors and PTB. There is a very lengthy transcript of Howard Gordon's talk in Passages #4, #5, #6, and #7.

Con Report: Los Angeles: June 18, 1988

A fan's comment:
Creation Conventions held a Beauty and the Beast convention on June 18,1988 in Los Angeles, California. Conventions, in both San Diego and Los Angeles, the two weekends before this con may have kept the turnout rather small, but we had a good time. The guests were Ron Perlman (his first con) and Howard Gordon (executive story editor, along with Alex Gansa). David Greenlee, who plays "Mouse" was also scheduled to appear, but was unable to attend. The programming began with a showing of the classic Cocteau film, "Beauty and the Beast", which was enjoyed by all. Next was Howard Gordon, who came on early in place of David Greenlee. He was delightful, charming, and seemed totally at ease in front of an audience. After a mini-auction, trivia and acting contests, it was time for Ron Perlman, who came out to a roaring crowd. He seemed a little nervous at first, but as the warmth and enthusiasm of the audience reached him, he relaxed and answered questions with wit and charm. It was obvious to everyone that both Howard Gordon and Ron Perlman have nothing but love and respect for the show and its fans. It was a wonderful coming together. [12]

St. Louis: June 1988

St. Louis.

Ron Perlman was a guest.

Philadelphia: July 16-17, 1988

I went to the Creation Con in Philadelphia, July 16-17. David Greenlee was there, and he made that con for me. Otherwise, it was a B&B bust. Creation all but ignored B&B in every respect. Their offerings were only a few stills we already have and two buttons. And other dealers were not allowed to sell any B&B items as this was a Creation Con. They ignored B&B in their trivia and their auction sessions, even though they were prominently mentioned in the con flyer. At one point on Saturday, the MC asked if there were any B&B fans in the audience and the clapping and cheers were strong and immediate, but that was the end of that. Even less was said on Sunday. Fewer people showed up for Sunday, but there were the same and more B&B fans that day to see Greenlee again. He was much more relaxed on Sunday and spent some time with several of us fans after the autograph signing. He said Saturday was his first con ever, even as a visitor. He did say that his "Mouse" character was originally named "Weed", but this was changed for obvious reasons. I feel "Mouse" is perfect for him, since in "Ozymandias" we learn that as a child Mouse was caught by the leonine Vincent. David Greenlee and Mouse are interchangeable characters- both open, endearing and genuine. [13]

New York City: November 24-27, 1988

Some guests were Gates McFadden, Richard Arnold, Terry Erdman, Tony Perkins, Tom Savini, Richard Chavez, and Philip Akin, and Paul Darrow.


Los Angeles: June 1989

Los Angeles Hilton: Creation Con Salutes Star Trek:

AT THE LOS ANGELES HILTON JUNE '89! WITH GUESTS: WILLIAM SHATNER, GEORGE TAKER NICHELLE NICHOLS, JAMES DOOHAN, MARK LENARD, MARINA SIRTIS, JONATHAN FRAKES, GENE AND MAJEL, AND MORE AND MORE! That's a crowded 48 hours! The impressions are jammed door to door in my head and now I'm sitting in an Amtrak railways carriage behind a train that is hoisting itself up the Rockies while I try to remember it all.

There are guests, two whole days of them - one after another - from eleven in the morning until seven In the evening! It would take a whole newsletter to recall what everyone said and did but who can forget the demon tornado that is William Shatner live. He bursts on to the stage, brimming with energy, full of funny stories, engaging in a knock down match with the audience. He's devastating! The audience love it but no one dares to ask a serious question!

George Takei is as dapper as ever with a message of tolerance for the future and the story of his parents’ internment during the last war. Jimmy Doohan gives a full throated rendering of "Captain, there be whales here!" Walter Koenig, declaims that although he is "not a company man" he enjoyed making ST, and thought the director was sensitive and considerate to the actors (this was the general verdict, it seemed). He says, though, that he does not think ST5 is as good as ST4 Mark Lenard, witty as always, gives us, by popular request "the red telephone story", plus an update on his planned two-hander with Walter Koenig Called "The Boys in Autumn", it shows Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn as middle-aged men and is still in the planning stages.

Nichelle Nichols looks simply stunning, having lost weight especially for the movie. She tells us of the agonies of working with Spice Williams (who plays the Klingon, Vixis). One of the of the con comes when she tells us how she meant to leave the cast in the early days, frustrated by, "Hailing frequencies open", but was persuaded to remain by Martin Luther King because as Uhura, a black woman doing a responsible Job, she was playing a new and vital role in the movement. She says she's very happy with the character development In the film.

Spice Williams is a body builder, bad boundless energy, and a bright Californian tan. (A sunbed tan, she tells us, for the movie.) She regales us with tales of learning Klingonese and the work she had to do to get the part. Both she and Charles Cooper, a Hollywood veteran (hope he doesn’t mind me saying that) who worked with Hitchcock and who plays General Korrd obviously enjoyed their time on the ST5 set and are clearly having great fun at the con.

The appearance of Marina Sirtis is a surprise if you think she’s like the reserved, intense character she plays. Marina is... frizzy is the only word. If the fans ask silly questions she tells them! And if they ask the same thing twice she tells them off for not listening. The fans love it but a man leaves in the middle of her talk.

She yells, "Oi, where are you going?"

"My wife’s having a baby!"

She stands staring after him. "His wife’s having a baby and he’s at a Star Trek con!"

Another surprise comes with Jonathan Frakes. "Hugs are us!” he roars, crashing on stage, hugging armfuls of happy fans. “Kisses are us!" The fans are ecstatic. Another star with demon energy.

Gene and Majel have the last spot. Fans ask the same unanswerable questions. "Will there be more Klingons in STNG... more Vulcan s... more of Q?" Each time the same polite answer: it depends on the writers. Gene says, perhaps a little tiredly, that he wishes people would leave him in peace to get on with the lob of entertaining the fans. He announces that Diane Muldaur will he leaving the series and Gates McFadden will be returning. He explains that a tension had been lost in the series which they wanted to restore.

After all this there is still the evening cabaret. We abandon this (and an enormous queue) and go to dinner with some friends.

Now the hardened con-goers among you might at this stage be muttering about professional cons and the contrast with the 'amateur' variety and I understand there has been some controversy of late in another fandom on this issue. So without taking sides, here are a few observations! Creation Cons are run to make money. They are run efficiently and they provide one factor of the 'con scene' in abundance: guest at era. (Especially at this con which is the biggest, an annual bash). (In addition to the list above were Susan Sackett, Todd Bryant (Klaa in ST5), Cynthia Gouw (Calthlin Dar in ST5), Guy Vardeman and Richard Arnold as well as a vary effective group of stuntmen who gave a demonstration!) There is also a film room and the largest dealers' room you can imagine. If you put together all the dealers' rooms of all the cons that have ever been held in Britain, you get the idea? On the other hand, it was necessary to queue each day for seats in the hall (the LA Hilton put their three ballrooms together) if you wanted to get anywhere near the front. Some fans did not go to bed on Saturday night, they began queueing at 1 am. This led to people keeping seats for others and the resultant outrage of those who had been waiting since the early hours. With some thought about a seat numbering system of some kind, all this might be avoided.

At a professionally run con, fan access to the guests (with some exceptions) is limited to their formal appearances. But you do get to see them. There is no fan run programme of talks and discussions or evening activities (the cabaret was a first at this con) and if you are very shy it might be difficult to make friends, but sit down in a queue and someone is sure to talk to you. Americans are more immediately convertible than we aura, perhaps. There are no name badges which I did find a drawback, for the shy it means you have to introduce yourself and you can't search for names of people whose stories you have read. The dealers' room might be huge but I wasn't much tempted. Almost all the merchandise had a similarity about it and moat of the dealers were professionals (they don't display their names either). There were some fan dealers, who mostly shared tables. The cost of a table here was $200. [14]

San Jose: August 18-19, 1989

Howard Gordon and Roy Dotrice in San Jose, CA on August 18-19th at the LeBaron Hotel.

The event will be the first full-scale, 2-day, commercial convention devoted solely to "Beauty and the Beast."... Something of a "test run," Creation is confident that fans will pitch in and make this event a mega-hit; needless to say, some pretty nifty future events will hinge on its success. [15]

New York City: August 26-27, 1989

August 26-27th at the Penta Hotel in Manhattan, guests were Tony Jay (Paracelsus of Beauty and the Beast), Wil Wheaton, Yvonne Craig, Bill Mumy, Isaac Asimov, Malachi Tluone, & Chris Cleremont)

San Jose: September 1989

Con Report: San Jose: September 1989

Yes, Roy Dotrice and Howard Gordon were in San Jose, and so was I. Yes, Ron Perlman was stalking through the alleys of downtown LA., and I was there. Yes, P.K. Simons and David Greenlee were speaking at a very small convention over the Labor Day Weekend, and I was there. But I'm not a fanatic. "Who's she kidding?) Well... maybe a little bit of a fanatic. I guess I'm addicted. If you're even mildly interested, keep reading.

My first BAB 'fix' was in San Jose at the Creation Convention. I was ostensibly there to sell my 'zines, but really... I mean... I'd never actually met Roy Dotrice. I guess I just couldn't help myself. He's so charming, debonair, classy!

What impressed me most about Roy in person was not his great voice, his sparkling eye, or even the fact that he has real clothes. He was so impressively healthy! Perhaps it's those 'tunnel lights', but Roy really looked marvelous. (Where's Billy Crystal when you need him?)

Roy entertained us not only with tidbits about the behind-the-scenes exploits (like the food fight that ignited on the 'Dead of Winter' set), but his first days in acting as a prisoner of war in a German POW camp. He was only sixteen, and his first role was as the fairy godmother in Cinderella, but it caught his actor's heart on fire and his love of acting has been burning ever since. He says that his wife is glad he graduated to male parts. I imagine so.

Howard Gordon was also very enlightening. He really was not free to let details about the new season out, but there were some details he spoke about. We shall get the new episodes with a new villain who'll make Paracelsus look like a goody-two-shoes.

At first, we shall have only dark glimpses of this villain, but by the sixth episode, he shall be fully revealed.

According to Howard, they are really excited, and that the spirit of the show is unchanged... and he seemed to be hinting at something when he said that, for he said it more than once with a twinkle in his eye.

He also said that the show would come on as soon as CBS had a slot available. Most guess that will be around December at this point.

The convention was very small, and there wasn't even a dealer's room. Instead, they were out in the hallways, but the spirit of the fans more than made up for it. Not only the fans, for both Roy and Howard signed autographs and posed for pictures until late In the evening Saturday, making sure no one was turned away empty-handed.

The next event in my recent escapades was a visit to a dark, rat-infested alley in downtown Los Angeles. Ron Perlman, in full Vincent make-up, showed up to do a scene. When the cameras roll, he's all business, bur in-between takes, he's a real cut-up. It still amazes me that he is so relaxed when he's working. He's a real professional.

During the San Jose convention, we had begged for funny stories from Howard. He told us that during filming of "Nor Iron Bars a Cage", the scene where the scientists are tracking Vincent down and turn their van's lights on him, causing Vincent to throw up his arm... during the rehearsal, Ron did just what he was supposed to, then shouted, "No, I said BUD LITE!"

Howard also confirmed that it was not Ron who played the pan-handler in the "What Rough Beast" street scene. He seemed as confused as many of us as to why people would keep insisting that it was Ron. I had asked David Schwartz the same question. "That was at Ron's recording signing at the Beverly Center in July) and David had said that Ron has never done a cameo in the show. David, on the other hand, did one in "The Rest is Silence" as the man in the park at the beginning picking up trash, and in the pilot, as the attorney who escorts Carol from the DA's office out to her hideout.

Did you know that HOward also was in the show? He was the video man at Laura's deposition in "Impossible Silence". He said it took all day to get that done.

P.K. Simons was on a writer's panel, and the talk was fairly general. He said that he had only written feature films, and that was what sold his talents to the B&B team. You may remember that he wrote "A Fair and Perfect Knight", one of the most touching shows of last season. He looks about Howard's age (28) with dark curly hair and a ready smile.

David Greenlee was apparently under strict orders not to reveal anything specific about the new season (sound familiar?) but he did say that Thursday, he had gone on location, that just about everyone in the cast from Below was there, and that he got to wear 'Above ground' clothes.

When he was asked about the new season, David looked thoughtful. He said if he had been asked that question a week earlier, he might have had doubts about how well the new storyline would go over, but now (and he smiled broadly) he thought it would do very well.

David says he's interested in reading all the fanzines (hint to you writers) and that he really loves the show. We said he really didn't know much about it when he went to film "Shades of Grey", except that Roy Dotrice was on it. This apparently Intimidated him. He says he didn't know enough about Ron to be intimidated by him for a couple of days!

When he speaks of Vincent, David gets a warm look on his cherubic face. He said more than once, "He is beautiful." Obviously, David loves Vincent as much as the rest of us. Some time before BAB, David worked with Linda, and that was another reason he was glad to get a part on the show. He seems genuinely fond of her, as a friend, not just as a co-worker.

The only hints David let slip were that when Vincent hurts, everyone Below hurts... and th^'re all hurting a lot in the beginning. I guess we're in for more angst. When asked about Ron Koslow, David described him as passionate. He sees a lot of Vincent in Ron, which is only natural, since Ron Koslow created the character.

Well, that's about it for now. Overall, I was impressed by the hope that everyone involved the show seems to have. There are obviously rocky times ahead for the characters, but from the little knowing smiles, I can only assume that there will be complicated twists and turns leading to resolutions we can't yet imagine.

The dream will endure. [16]

Los Angeles: November 18-19, 1989

[November 18-19, 1989]:Creation's salute to "Beauty and the Beast" for Los Angeles was held on the weekend before Thanksgiving. I flew out to Los Angeles, and shared a sales table with Sharon Wells.

Creation lined up guests George R.R. Martin, Jay Acovone, and Tony Jay. Judy Evans brought a breathtaking array of costumes used in the third-season shooting. Howard Gordon, who had been originally scheduled, did not attend. George Martin indicated that he and Alex (Gansa, Howard's writing partner) have sold a screenplay, and that there had been a conflict with the convention. (Congratulations Howard and Alex!)

It was most interesting. Many fans mentioned as they stopped at our table that they felt the tension was high: everyone was worried about Catherine' future as reported in the tabloids, and they wanted her future, figuratively, not literally, laid to rest. By the end of the convention, however, most of the fans seemed saddened, but much more relaxed. It was as though they could pursue their private mourning, and expect from the movie and subsequent episodes, no miracle shower-dream-cure devices so commonly used in other series.

The attendance was also interesting. Fans came from all over the countiy, but the total gate receipts were around six hundred and fifty people. The guests were entertaining. Jay Acovone was funny and relaxed, and George Martin was his usual original self.

The art show was a travesty: pieces submitted were laid against the wall behind the registration table, and no one ever got to see the art displayed, or know the winners. The art for sale, both in the sales room and elsewhere, was outstanding, however, and there were new pieces available which I had not previously seen.

The drama contest and trivia event were predictable. The costume contests had some nice ones, with Jay Smith's wonderful "Vincent" costume complete with the makeup one of the best. George Martin had sound advice for anyone trying their hand at "spec" scripts, and/or wanting to get started at television writing. He discussed "spec" scripts, As a vehicle to possibly get an agent, or as entree, a calling card if you will, into a producer's office. He stressed that they rarely sell, but are a sample of your work which can be used to determine some of your abilities in the genre.


The camaraderie among most of the fans seemed high, although there were the inevitable cliques. It seems that many of the fans have banded together in an effort to keep Catherine's memory close. Despite the fact many say they are ambivalent about the December 12th return, I believe most of the fans are determined to further the spirit of the show, no matter how the characters are thinned out...

All in all, it was a pleasant, if quick, weekend. The hotel was good, and that made it even moreso. I had heard that the San Jose hotel was indescribably terrible. [17]


A 1990 Creation Con National Tour Program Booklet

This is a 15-page booklet that includes:

  • a bunch of ads for comic shops, a zine, a fan club (The Friends of Doctor Who)
  • some fan art (not credited!)
  • the official names of the people in charge of the Creation Cons
  • "Shatner!," a three-page article by Adam Malin about "The Creation/William Shatner Trek 5 Promotional Tour" (anecdotes promoting Shatner, some photos)
  • centerfold is "The Creation Star Trek Cabaret" (has many photos of some Trek stars onstage for a "gala Night Club Cabaret" in New York City on September 29, 1989. Includes George Takei, Nichelle Nichols, Michael Dorn, Jonathan Frakes, Walter Koenig, and Grace Lee Whitney.
  • a two-page calendar of the planned 1990 Creation Cons; there were 73

Unknown City: January 1990

Dean Stockwell was a guest. It was his first con appearance.

San Diego: March 10-11, 1990

At the March 10-11, 1990 Creation Con in San Diego at the Bahia Hotel, Roy Dotrice (the actor who portrayed "Father") made comments to fans about how he'd had a private conversation with a fan who did not like third season, one in which he referred to her and others who did not like the third season of the show as "bad seed and people who had to be brought around to a correct way of thinking."

Roy lashed out very angrily at the third-season critics, especially the Michigan group and the person who sent a bunch of dead, black roses to Witt Thomas in protest of the death of romance. [18]
Probably the most newsworthy thing was Roy Dotrice telling us that he, Ron, Linda, and Jay got together for dinner Roy sat across from Linda, who was breast-feeding Dalton, so Roy said he was "paying a lot of attention to Dalton." [19]

New York City: March 10-11, 1990

Jay Acovone was a guest.

Tacoma: May 26-227, 1990

"On May 26 & 27, Jay Acovone (Joe Maxwell) will guest-star at Creation's next Beauty and the Beast Salute" at the Aton Hotel in Tacoma, Washington. There will be a video presentation at this convention of costumes from Beauty and the Beast, as well as fan-produced B&B music videos (Creation would like to see what you have produced, so bring your VHS tapes along!)" [20]

New York City: November 25, 1990

It was at this con that Beth Blighton presented Ron Perlman with her art The Fire and the Rose. See that page for more.

There were fan vids shown at this con:

Before Ron came onstage, three very romantic, Vincent and Catherine music videos were presented —"Waiting for You" by Richard Marx & "Wind Beneath My Wings" by Bette Midler, compiled by Kim Taylor, and "After All" by Peter Cetera & Cher, compiled by a Creation employee — which Ron watched from the back of the room. He then came to the front of the ballroom, dressed completely in black—as he quite often is! [21]
From a fan:
Jonathan Frid was a guest, Forrey Ackerman [sic], Isaac Asimov, DeForest Kelley and - ready for this? - Mark Goddard from Lost in Space! Frid was boring, Kelley charmed us all, I've been a fan of Asimov for years, but when Mark Goddard took the stage three grown women vanished instantly and it was three pseudo-sixteen year olds who jumped up and down in and out of their seats screeching "Omigod! Omigod! He's gorgeous! Omigod!" Yep, [we] went bye-bye for a while but we're feeling much better now! [22]


April 1991? New York City (This con was split between two hotels that were two blocks apart. "Because of the space problems, we were not able to do as much alternate programming as I would have liked (no panels, etc.),but we did have a video room at night, complete with an orgy of music-video-watching! Kim Taylor's versions of "Hungry Eyes" and "Uptown Girl" and (my favorite) "Right Here, Waiting For You" were all fantastic." --part of a MUCH longer con report in Tunneltalk v.2 n.3, May 1991)


Vancouver, British Columbia: April 28, 1992

Con Report: Vancouver, British Columbia: April 28, 1992

Have you ever gone to a Creation Con? Well, on April 28 I went to Vancouver to see Patrick Stewart. It was quite an experience. The convention was enjoyable at times, but mostly disappointing.

The con was held at P.N.E grounds in the arena. The arena was divided into two parts; one part was the stage and the other part was for the dealers. At the con the ticketmasters were very rude,and wouldn’t let me keep my ticket receipt. Also, they ran out of program guides, so you didn’t know what was going on. I was determined to get a program guide so I happened to acquire one. I was disappointed to learn that Patrick Stewart was going to make only one appearance and there would be no autographing sessions.

Throughout the day there were slide and film presentations. Some events were boring and dragged on a bit such as Patrick Stewart rehearsing for a production. Some of the days other events were: previews of some new movies being released this year, an auction of Star Trek stuff, slides of Next Generation shows yet to be aired. This con was not well organized. For instance, the speaker was talking about Star Trek VI, “Captain Sulu will be... “Excuse me, will you please clear the aisle because of fire regulations,” “Captain of the...” “Volunteers please make sure the people are not standing in the aisle and don’t stand against the wall.” “...Excelsior.” Interruptions like this happened in most of the presentations. Finally when Patrick Stewart came it was exciting. He gave a good speech about his life, acting career and humourous moments of his life, plus he answered the people’s questions. It was the highlight of my day.

In the dealers area most items were overpriced. It was so crowded you couldn’t see anything and con-goers were as rude as the merchants. I waited until a show was on and then went to the dealers area as it was not so badly crowded then.

Overall, I would recommend that if you want to go to a Creation Con, go only if you really want to see a particular guest star. But beware: it will be expensive and people will be rude. [23]


Pasadena: November 1995

Con Report: Pasadena: November 1995

I'm probably repeating what others might write, but I want to say some words about the Creation 30th year convention in Pasadena in November, As a K/S mini-con, it was wonderful! Me, my long-time ST friend Kathy who finally got to meet some of these marvelous women—you—I talk about, Alice, [S B], [C J], [A L], [J L], Marcy, [K R], [J S], [C S], Anna W. from England. It was great! So much ST, so much K/S, so much friendship. And Heidi and Jessica, two new K/S'ers who we descended upon and gathered to our bosoms (snared into our clutches) by the one zine table. (K/S boxes sold out fast.) I wish I had had us when I first knew about K/S and was wandering the conventions hesitant to even talk to anyone, certainly not knowing what zines to buy. There was the usual dealers room madness -- a feeding frenzy. I got wonderful vintage stuff. My treasure: a gorgeous 1969 psychedelic Kirk and Spock poster, framed, cheap. At all the cons I've been to, the costumes are predominantly TNG or the movies, mostly what people can buy ready-made I guess, or else the amazing creations like the Borg, etc. But I have never seen so many extremely well done original series costumes as at this con. A number ol classic Klingons. sexy and threatening. A group of four Andorians Bele/Lokai. A Vulcan priestess, Mr. and Mrs. Harry Mudd. The Romulan Commander and her sub-commander, Shana (?), Kirk's drill thrall. And of course our Juliea, with her beautiful and intricate hand-made Romulan princess creations.

Here's something I loved: During a slide presentation about all the rest of the ST shows, they asked how did we like the Dax/Lenara DS9 episode, and the response was overwhelmingly positive, an auditorium full of cheers. Yeah!

Then...Bill and Leonard, sigh. It just wasn't right. It was charming at first, how DeForest came on and introduced some very special person (actor, director, writer, etc., etc.) who was his best friend, and of course it was both of them; and they both came on at the same time from opposite ends of the stage. But then the whole rest of the time, DeForest was physically in between them. What's wrong with this picture? Bill needed to be in the middle, where he belongs. Bill and Leonard were the whole time, until the very end, on opposite sides of the stage, and with a physical body separating them. It just bothered me; they weren't connecting like they would be if it was iust the two of them. Oh well.... They're both gorgeous and wonderful, however. I guess the 'getting old" gags were amusing, for a while, especially when Bill displayed his "muscle mass* and a flying kick. But then the audience questions were fucking asinine. (My grandmother's got 12 grandchildren and she... I came all the way's my birthday...I stood in line...can I have your autograph...a hug?) Doesn't seem there was one intelligent question that led to any interesting discussion by any of the three of them. [24]


Minneapolis: August 3, 1996

Con Reports for Minneapolis: August 3, 1996

See René Takes on the Twin Cities!


San Francisco: August 1, 1998

Con Report: San Francisco: August 1, 1998


Las Vegas: November 13, 1999

Con Report: Las Vegas: November 13, 1999


Las Vegas: August 1-3, 2003

Con Report: Las Vegas: August 1-3, 2003


Las Vegas: August 11-14, 2005

Con Report: Las Vegas: August 11-14, 2005



  1. ^ from The K/S Press #86
  2. ^ comments at Virgule-L, quoted anonymously (December 2, 1992)
  3. ^ Morgan Dawn's personal notes, accessed August 4, 2016.
  4. ^ from IDIC #5 (1989)
  5. ^ from The Blackwood Project #11 (1991)
  6. ^ Pat Heinske at The Wright Stuff, newsletter for U.S.S. Kitty Hawk
  7. ^ by Bob Vosseller in Constitution Comments #4
  8. ^ by Jason Genser in Constitution Comments #5
  9. ^ from Roberta Rogow in APA-Filk (August 1986). See it archived here.
  10. ^ from a fan in K/S & K.S. (Kindred Spirits) #19
  11. ^ from Season in U.U.S.A.S.W.F.C. Zine
  12. ^ from Passages #4
  13. ^ from Passages #5
  14. ^ from IDIC #5
  15. ^ from Pipeline v.2 n.8 (August 1989)
  16. ^ from Pipedreams (September/December 1989)
  17. ^ from Pipedreams (September/December 1989)
  18. ^ as quoted in the April 1990 issue of Shadows of the City
  19. ^ as quoted in the April 1990 issue of Shadows of the City
  20. ^ from Pipeline v.3 n.4/5 (April/May 1990)
  21. ^ Tunneltalk Vol 1 No 9 (1990)
  22. ^ from Up Bubble #9
  23. ^ from Atavachron v.7 n.2 (1992)
  24. ^ from Come Together #24