A "Creation Con" is a convention run by Creation Entertainment. Creation has been criticized for overcharging fans and running unpleasant glorified autograph sessions for new fans who don't know any better. They have also been highly successful at getting big name guests, which can make many of their cons highly attractive to fans who do prefer procons.
A later major competitor was Slanted Fedora.A fan in 2003 wrote:
Fans, at least in the Star Trek fandom in 1983 and 1984 referred to these cons by their month. "Januarycon," "Octobercon," and "Maycon." This could not have been a long-lasting practice, as no year was specified, and there was no anticipation that these cons would go on for decades. But at the time, "Creation Cons" were the only game in town.
NOTE: This does not apply to FebCon, which was its own thing.
Vid Shows and Vid ContestsStarting in the 1980s, Creation Con would bulk up its events by showing fan made music videos before the actor's panels. In most instances these vids were shown with the fan creator's permission. However, one instance involved the convention re-editing a Quantum Leap vid "Oh Boy" by California Crew and showing the vid without permission. This resulted in California Crew deciding to limit the distribution of their vids:
The distribution is erratic on song-tapes only if you don't make them yourself, really. Hanging around with Judy, I found that the MW vid-makers generally swap copies of their year's work. I don't think California Crew does anymore, though, since Creation got hold of one a copy of their 1991 tape and RE_MADE "You Can Call Me Al" and "Oh, Boy" and one other QL video and showed the RE-CUT versions at the LeapCon. California Crew are of the opinion that since the song and the TV show are copyright works, they can't copyright their vids, but I wonder if song-vids would fall under compilation-copyright, or even under whatever copyright holds for collages. So, because the commercial vipers swiped the videos and re-made them (it's not just that they were shown, it's that Creation re-did them, and not as well), nobody gets to see California Crew vids outside MediaWest. 
In the 1990s, Creation Con would request submissions of fanvids to be shown in a contest. The winner was offered a $100 gift certificate in their company merchandise store. Fans would occasionally submit their vids under their pseuds to avoid unwanted attention. In exchange for showing the vid, the fan vidder had to grant Creation Con a perpetual license to use their vids in their conventions and on their DVDs.
1989 Example of Fan Promotion
Fans, who were eager to take what they could, often offered to promote "Creation Con" in their own amateur publications.
Fans also volunteered, or were recruited, by Creation Con to provide content, programming, and promotions. One example is The International Beauty and the Beast Convention.
A 2000 Press Release, Focus on Fandom, Inc.
This press release both gives some official history, as well as announces Creation Entertainment's relationship with Fandom, Inc., the latter known for its strong-arm tactics in its attempt to trademark the word "fandom" and for trying to shut down fan web sites. See Fandom, Inc. for more.
FANDOM, INC. ACQUIRES CREATION ENTERTAINMENT:
Acquisition of Top Live Events Producer and Licensed Merchandise Company Strengthens Fandom's Audience Reach and Marketing Efforts:
(SANTA MONICA, Calif.) December 6, 2000-Fandom, Inc. (www.fandom.com), the pre-eminent media company focused on Expanded Reality Entertainment (ERE), announced today that it has completed the acquisition of Creation Entertainment. The Glendale, California-based company is the nation's leading producer of live events for fans of fantasy, science fiction and horror, and invented the concept of touring fan conventions almost 30 years ago.
Creation Entertainment was founded in 1971 and also designs, manufactures and distributes licensed merchandise based on popular motion picture and television properties including Star Trek, The Sopranos, Saturday Night Live, Farscape, Charmed and Xena: Warrior Princess.
"With the acquisition of Creation Entertainment, we will bring our audience an exciting new dimension to the Fandom experience," said Mark Young, CEO of Fandom, Inc. "Creation brings almost 30 years of successful convention expertise that extends the fan experience for global, enduring entertainment properties."
"Becoming part of the Fandom media network allows Creation to take our fan base to the next level," said Gary Berman, co-CEO of Creation Entertainment. "Fandom and Creation are a perfect match because our products and services appeal to the same passionate demographic, which has the power to make and extend the life of hit properties."
Creation Entertainment created the concept of touring fan conventions in the 1970's, beginning with comic book conventions and moving into touring shows for Star Trek, James Bond, The X-Files and Xena. Since then, Creation has produced more than 1,000 shows, garnering "A"-list celebrity appearances including George Lucas at its Official Star Wars Convention, Arnold Schwarzenegger at the Official Terminator Convention, and Jack Nicholson at the Fangoria Weekend of Horrors Convention. Hundreds of other celebrities have participated at Creation shows across the United States.
"As a company that celebrates fantastic entertainment in all media, Creation looks forward eagerly to bringing its special brand of fan entertainment to Fandom's worldwide audience. The combined assets of the Fandom Network make it a powerful destination for fans as they explore the subjects they love," said Adam Malin, the co-CEO who founded Creation Entertainment with Gary Berman. The company has 30 employees.
"Creation Entertainment brings the added excitement of live events to Fandom's already strong online and offline entertainment base," said Young. "The company's reputation as respected producer of fan conventions and merchandise allows Fandom to further its goal of being the leading source of entertainment and information for science fiction, horror and fantasy fans."
The Creation Entertainment purchase comes on the heels of Fandom's acquisition of Cinescape, a Chicago-based company that publishes a leading action/adventure/science fiction magazine focusing on film, television and new media and also owns and operates the popular Web site Cinescape.com.
Santa Monica, Calif. based Fandom, Inc. (www.fandom.com), is a media company with multiple delivery platforms that operates the Internet's number-one choice for Expanded Reality EntertainmentTM (fantasy, science fiction, horror and online gaming.) Fandom is the trusted authority in these genres, providing fans a unique and compelling entertainment experience. The company also owns and operates Cinescape Magazine and Cinescape.com, which cover television, film and new media.Fandom's online platforms offer immersive online environments that combine content, commerce and community with an emphasis on fan participation. They feature news, in-depth articles, fan-generated content, chats, surveys and polls, sweepstakes and contests. Fandom.com also features an online shop specializing in genre merchandise and collectibles, as well as a print catalog distributed to 250,000 subscribers on a regular basis. Founded in July 1999, the company's investors include Redpoint Ventures, RRE Ventures, Wasserstein Adelson Ventures and Entertainment Media Ventures.
Back in the 1970s, mundanes woke up and started noticing how much fun Trekkers were having at their Trek cons- and how money, lots of money, changed hands. So the businessmen got into the act. These non-fen got together and started running Trek cons. These cons were, and still are, very popular because they have the money to pay the STAR TREK stars to make an appearance, which draws in crowds of Trekkers. The Creationcons got so popular that they probably pushed out the fan-run cons that used to be held In the same areas. Creationcons are quite different from other conventions. First there are no name badges; they just stamp your hand for the day. Second, all they have are just two rooms. There may be thousands of fen in each room, but it's still just two rooms. The auditorium where the stars speak, and the Dealer's Room, where fanzines, photos and practically all types of Trek memorabilia you can think of are sold, and that's it. No panels, no filking, no place to just hang out, like a con suite, and certainly no room parties, because Creationcons close promptly at 7.00 pm- The thing about no room parties is gradually changing, though - this year (and last) the ST:TNG club ENTERPRISE AMERICA did have a room party, and this year Creationcon had another first - a masquerade (well, they're learning...). 
Creation Cons are absolutely the worst in Amarillo. We didn't even get an actor. Just tapes of the stars' appearances at other Creation Conventions. 
some of you don't), a couple of years ago, Creation (a for-profit organization) tried to get all of the ST:TNG actors to sign contracts to do Creation Cons exclusively. That's right - no fan-run convention would be allowed to have a guest star from TNG. Even though all but Marina Sirtis turned them down this did not endear Creation to Star Trek fans, and we've been carrying a pretty big chip on our (collective) shoulder against Creation ever since. However, I feel that they are realizing the errors of their ways and are trying to make amends to the members of STARFLEET, as well as to the members of all those other clubs that dream of being Starfleet when they grow up. (Just kidding!) Or, maybe they are just kissing up to us because they are afraid of losing business. I don't claim to know for sure, but I, for one, am going to give them the benefit of the doubt and see whathappens. 
1976: Sample Con Flyers
1977: Sample Con Flyers
flyer/program cover for 1977, printed in Creation Times #16, Special Edition
From The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, 5/7/1983: "THE ATLANTA CREATION CONVENTION. Show features pre-views of up-coming science-fiction horror films, exhibits; over 150,000 comic books; Marvel Comics artists, Klaus Janson, for "Daredevil"; Bob Wiacek, an inker for the "X-Men"; Ron Wilson, for "The Thing." Also appearing, Walter Koneig, from "Star Trek". 11 a.m.- 7 p.m. Saturday-Sunday, May 7-8. $8 per day. Hyatt Regency Atlanta. 265 Peachtree St. (Downtown Atlanta). For more details, 1-800-645-6579."
Known to be in attendance were Dorothy Dillon, Mari Key (a.k.a Meredith Rushton), Randall Landers and Eric L. Watts, who tape-recorded Walter Koenig's one-hour Q&A on Saturday, May 7. In a May 28, 2017, Facebook post, after listening to the 34-year-old recording, Watts said "During the Q&A, Koenig talks a lot about the latest film, Star Trek II, and what little he already knows about Star Trek III, which he said will start shooting in August for a Summer 1984 release."
A "Salute to Star Trek" -- New York City
Con Reports for New York City: January 7-8, 1984
'CONVENTION 84' by Bob Vosseller. It seems every convention I review gets bigger and better than the last. Creation's first Star Trek convention of 1984 was held in New York at the Roosevelt Hotel on January 7th and 8th. I was able to attend both days of the event and have twice as much to review. One other difference is that this time the chapter became part of the convention, and was listed among the many activities on the convention schedule. (See schedule)
Howard Weinstein's presentation fallowed. Howard commented on the progress of Treasure's Trade, his new Trek book, and his part in the collaboration of V-East Coast Crisis. He also spoke about future Trek books and of the work of his fellow writer Ann Crispin. Howard always makes an entertaining presentation.
A Trek trivia test was next on the agenda and a special Trek auction followed.
Mike Barr, writer of the new DC Star Trek comic, and the new Batman and The Outsiders title took the stage next. Mike talked about his plans tor the Trek title and the direction it will take for the summer adaption of ST III.
Probably the most eagerly awaited event was the special slideshow preview of Star Trek III. Let me tell you, the Grand Ballroom was packed with fans glued to the widescreen in awe.
The preview featured scenes of Leonard Nimoy in his role as director. Other slides included a shot of Nicolas Meyer who visited the set, George Takei taking direction orders and Merrit Butrick as David Marcus. That wasn't all. Two of the most spectacular slides featured Robin Curtis in her role as the new Lt. Saavik, and Nichelle Nichols as Uhura posed in a transporter room packing a phaser. Then there were a few bridge shots, showing all our old favorites in civilian attire.
A number of aliens will be in ST III. Several were shown in addition to Christopher Lloyd in full Klingon makeup as Kroug. A shot ot Saavik and David finding Spock's coffin on the Genesis World was also featured. That raised a number of cheers from the audience. So did the shot of Kirk's battle with Kroug. One of the last slides showed a battered Kirk looking over to someone. Could it have been Spock?
Walter Koenig took the stage next and as part of his presentation, interviewed his character of Chekov. This he did by switching voices. It was humorous to say the least. He commented during the question and answer period that most of the more amusing dialogue went to James Doohan. "It's DeForest Kelley's film" Koenig said. He was reluctant to say more but did speculate on the possibility of ST IV. He also held a shouting contest and literally died on stage.
The art contest featured many talented fan artists. That was the last event of the day.
The dealers room which is always a featured attraction of any con featured items ranging from ST comics to Indiana Jones T-shirts, from Dr. Who records to nude Shanna posters.
The Grand Ballroom's anteroom area housed a number of tables including our own. The chapter's table featured a large poster which included examples of Starfleet membership materials, a beautiful chapter banner, and a poster which included our department emblems.
Table items for sale included Genesis, newsletters, CIT's, and the first issue of Hailing Frequencies, a new fanzine project from the Communications Department. Sales went well for all chapter items. Hailing Frequencies sold out in less than three hours. Towards the end of the first day, we were able to attract the interest of an NBC news film crew. Commodore Genser and I hammed it up for the cameras and ended up on the eleven o'clock news. We even managed a few lines of dialogue for the folks at home. Jason, Alex, Karl and I stayed on at the Roosevelt Hotel and awaited our debut on the news. Believe me. that was an adventure in itself.
Sunday the con began for us even before the fans were allowed in. The table seemed to be the official greeting point for those waiting for the first event of the day, a repeat of Saturday's first slideshow.
Arnold Garguilo's demonstration of his special effects and makeup talent followed.
Jo Duffy, writer of Marvel Comic's Star Wars, then spoke about her plans for that title.
An open meeting of our chapter followed. Jason, Alex. Karl, Laura Hoffman, Anna Iwanow and myself took the stage to inform the audience about Starfleet, our chapter, and our accomplishments of the past two years.
A ST/fantasy costume parade followed. It consisted mainly of young children. The cutest was a four year old Luke Skywalker. Allan Asherman, the author of the Star Trek Compendium, and The Making of Star Trek II, then made his presentation. He spoke about the work involved in researching both projects. Allan was extremely interesting and shed some light on little known facts about the TV series. Watch for a special article on his presentation and an in depth interview with him in the second issue of Hailing Frequencies.
Waller Koenig returned to talk about his career as Pavel Chekov, and answered a few questions. He held an autograph session, but was forced to leave before it was complete.
Howard Weinstein closed the day reading a few chapters from Treasure's Trade, and made reference to a possible sequel to Covenant of the Crown. He added that his co-author on the 'V' project, Ann Crispin, will be writing a sequel to her best-selling novel, 'Yesterday's Son.'
During the auction and slideshow, ABC was filming various fans for their news coverage of the convention. The table and myself made a brief appearance on ABC's local six o'clock news. Sales of our items improved from Saturday's coverage, and each of us who served at the table had a lot of fun meeting enthusiastic and sometimes, downright weird fans.Januarycon was a huge success that was reminiscent of the early Star Trek cons. It was also a marked success for the chapter. 
Con Reports for New York City: May 12-13, 1984
The annual May Creation Convention, held on the 12 and 13 of May at the Roosevelt Hotel in midtown Manhattan was a smashing success for both Creation Conventions and the Constitution. Thousands of individuals attended and virtually everyone enjoyed themselves. Maycon 84 marked the 1st anniversary of our fanzine, Genesis.
The con began at 11:00, with people being let in ten-fifteen minutes early. We had our table set up and were prepared [for the most part] for the ensuing crowd which rushed in upon us. Copies of Constitution Comments and Hailing Frequencies sold like they were going out of style.
During the course of the weekend. Creation ran a number of previews from many upcoming films including: Gremlins, Supergirl, Ladyhawke, Ghostbusters, Buckaroo Banzai, Dreamscape, and, of course. Star Trek III - The Search For Spock. No Star Trek convention would be complete without the classic blunders of the Enterprise crew, which were shown in the popular Star Trek Blooper Reel.
We didn't have 'official chapter stage-time,' but I was invited up on stage with Adam Malin. the president of Creation Conventions, to help out in the Star Trek Trivia Game. The audience asked questions of a special panel and if they stumped the experts, they would be awarded a prize. That proved to be alot of fun.
The first guest on Saturday was Mark Lenard, the only actor to portray all three of Star Trek's major aliens. He was very entertaining, and informative as well. Mark spoke about his career, his part in Star Trek, both past and present, and about his other contributions to the world of entertainment. Then, Mark held a question and answer session which the crowd loved. Fans asked Mark all sorts of questions on his career and on Star Trek.
This was followed by the famous Creation No Minimum Bid Auction, which lasted for about an hour. Great fun ensued as fans watched packages of Star Trek and science fiction stuff auctioned off to the highest bidder!
The next guest was James Doohan, who as you know, plays the chief engineer of the Enterprise, Commander Montgomery Scott. He packed the fans into the Grand Ballroom just as Mark Lenard had. Jim did some of his famous accents and told the fens stories and anecdotes from both his career, and Star Trek. Then he held a question and answer session. The fans asked Jim about his career and, of course Star Trek.
After Jim's presentation, he and Mark held an autograph session in the area outside of the Grand Ballroom. Adam put me in charge of 'crowd control and security' around Jim and Mark while they were signing autographs. That was tots of fun!
Alex tells me that Sunday was just as entertaining as Saturday. I can't say too much about Sunday, because transportation problems prevented me from attending. The enclosed con schedule should tell you what events occurred on Sunday.All in all, Maycon 84 was a fantastic success and the chapter got alot more exposure both to the stars, and the public. 
There was a con in New York in June 1985. Leonard Nimoy was a guest. The zine Nome #8 was sold there.
1986: Con Flyers
a flyer for a 1986 con (June21-22, Anaheim, CA), this con was in conjunction with Starlog
Con Reports for Oakland, CA: March 9-10, 1986
Creation Con held one of their multi-media conventions at the Oakland Hyatt Hotel over the weekend of March 9th and 10th. The Star Trek guest celebrity was Robin Curtis, Saavik of ST III. The audience on both days were charmed by the gracious, warm, lovely and friendly young actress.
RC opened both sessions by asking immediately for questions from the audience, quickly adding (in anticipation of someone's question), that she was 29 and single. On both days, one of the first questions asked was if Saavik would be pregnant in ST IV, and if so, who was the father? After telling us that she wasn't "very good" at keeping secrets, RC was very good at being evasive in directly answering the question, hinting that there is a possibility that Saavik could be pregnant, but also indicating that there is a possibility the issue will be left open in ST TV.
Audiences on both days were also quite interested in RC's interpretation of the Saavik character, versus the interpretation of Kirstie Alley. RC told us that as she is very impressionable, she hasn't seen ST II, and therefore couldn't compare her performance to KA's. RC was very gentle in reminding us that not only is a character dependent upon the actor, but also the director, and that Leonard Nimoy, as the resident Vulcan, guided her performance.
When asked what were her best and worst experiences in her acting career, the audience on March 9th was honored to share a very personal, moving experience for RC in her best category. RC is also a singer, and appeared as Aldonza (Dulcinea), in the musical Man from La Mancha. During the rape scene of Aldonza by the muleteers, her performance was so effective, that her father, sitting in the audience, became upset. RC also added to her best category, that during the filming of ST III, her father, Robert B. Curtis, became very ill, and subsequently passed away. However, before he died, RC was aware that her father was proud of her and that he knew she could take care of herself as an actress.
In the worst category, is the "David is dead" line from ST in. RC said she cringes every time she hears it. During the filming, she tried to emote the line in several different forms, one with a "break" in her voice, but again was directed by LN to read the line without emotion.
Would RC want to sing in any future ST movies? Of course, but not before Nichelle Nichols or else Nichelle would "kick her butt!"
RC is not a "Trekker". She has not seen either ST I or II, and as a child only saw the TV series sporadically, and then only because her older brother was a "Trekker", and he watched it often. RC's childhood impression of ST was that ST was a very adult and kinky series. RC referred to "Plato's Stepchildren", and the scene where Kirk is forced to kiss Uhura and Spock to kiss Christine. This has been a fantasy of her's ever since. Also, the scene from 'Miri", where Rand asked Kirk to look at her legs, and then tore open the top of her tunic.
RC was asked about the final sequence of ST III, where Spock climbs back down the temple stairs, looking into the faces of each of the ST crew. Why was Saavik unable to inset Speck's gaze, looking away from Spock? Was this RC's interpretation, or was she directed by LN to look away? RC answered, stating that just before the scene was shot, LN took her aside, and standing close to her, leaned in, whispering into her ear. "How would you react if you were to suddenly meet a lover you hadn't seen in seme time?" LN asked RC, stepping back to watch her reaction. RC said she. blushed, and looked away from LN, unable to meet his gaze. 'That's how I want you to react in this next scene," LN told RC.
Well, if Saavik is pregnant, that explains at least who the father is!
The other scene that is special to RC, was the sequence on Genesis, when Saavik and David find the young Spock during the blizzard. Because RC was concerned that she be true to Saavik in her performance, she would watch the dallies of each day's shooting, along with LN. They were ahead of schedule on the filming, when that sequence was filmed. Watching the dailies the next day, LN decided to re-shoot the sequence, adding the bit where the young Spock reaches out and touches Saavik's nose, and then touches his own.
[snipped]After each session, RC was so kind to sign autographs for the fans. I stood at the tail end of the line on March 9th, and approximately 45 minutes later, got to RC. RC was smiling, very excited, and took time to talk with each fan. 
CREATION CONVENTIONS presented "STARLOG Salutes STAR WARS: The First Ten Years." The con was planned for New York January 1-3, 1988 at the PENTA Hotel; San Jose February 1988 at the RED LION INN; and Detroit May 14-15, 1988 at the HYATT REGENCY DEARBORN. For ticket info and full details fans were asked to send a self-addressed stamped envelope to: CREATION/STAR WARS, 145 Jericho Turnpike, Mineola, NY 11501 or call 1-516-SHOWMAN. Featured attractions included: famous guest stars, giant dealers room, the STAR WARS trilogy films, Lucasfilm previews, STAR WARS trivia contest, behind-the-scenes slideshows, auctions, STAR WARS costume parade, comedy skits/sound-alikes, special f/x slideshows, fan club info.One fan's comments:
We all understand how stars tend to cancel at the last minute sometimes, but events such as the Tribute to Harrison Ford slide show that was to be held at aparticular San Francisco Creation Con in January of 1988, should have taken place as advertised or advance notice given of the cancellation! These people seem to forget that there are fans traveling from other cities to these things, and usually fairly destitute (this is an important matter of consideration, don't you think?), who are more than angry and disappointed to have spent all aforementioned time and money in vain simply because something was falsely advertised! It happened to be the sole reason that we wanted to attend. 
A 1990 Creation Con National Tour Program Booklet
This is a 15-page booklet that includes:
- a bunch of ads for comic shops, a zine, a fan club (The Friends of Doctor Who)
- some fan art (not credited!)
- the official names of the people in charge of the Creation Cons
- "Shatner!," a three-page article by Adam Malin about "The Creation/William Shatner Trek 5 Promotional Tour" (anecdotes promoting Shatner, some photos)
- centerfold is "The Creation Star Trek Cabaret" (has many photos of some Trek stars onstage for a "gala Night Club Cabaret" in New York City on September 29, 1989. Includes George Takei, Nichelle Nichols, Michael Dorn, Jonathan Frakes, Walter Koenig, and Grace Lee Whitney.
- a two-page calendar of the planned 1990 Creation Cons; there were 73
Con Reports for Pasadena: Unknown Date
I'm probably repeating what others might write, but I want to say some words about the Creation 30th year convention in Pasadena in November, As a K/S mini-con, it was wonderful! Me, my long-time ST friend Kathy who finally got to meet some of these marvelous women—you—I talk about, Alice, [S B], [C J], [A L], [J L], Marcy, [K R], [J S], [C S], Anna W. from England. It was great! So much ST, so much K/S, so much friendship. And Heidi and Jessica, two new K/S'ers who we descended upon and gathered to our bosoms (snared into our clutches) by the one zine table. (K/S boxes sold out fast.) I wish I had had us when I first knew about K/S and was wandering the conventions hesitant to even talk to anyone, certainly not knowing what zines to buy. There was the usual dealers room madness -- a feeding frenzy. I got wonderful vintage stuff. My treasure: a gorgeous 1969 psychedelic Kirk and Spock poster, framed, cheap. At all the cons I've been to, the costumes are predominantly TNG or the movies, mostly what people can buy ready-made I guess, or else the amazing creations like the Borg, etc. But I have never seen so many extremely well done original series costumes as at this con. A number ol classic Klingons. sexy and threatening. A group of four Andorians Bele/Lokai. A Vulcan priestess, Mr. and Mrs. Harry Mudd. The Romulan Commander and her sub-commander, Shana (?), Kirk's drill thrall. And of course our Juliea, with her beautiful and intricate hand-made Romulan princess creations.
Here's something I loved: During a slide presentation about all the rest of the ST shows, they asked how did we like the Dax/Lenara DS9 episode, and the response was overwhelmingly positive, an auditorium full of cheers. Yeah!Then...Bill and Leonard, sigh. It just wasn't right. It was charming at first, how DeForest came on and introduced some very special person (actor, director, writer, etc., etc.) who was his best friend, and of course it was both of them; and they both came on at the same time from opposite ends of the stage. But then the whole rest of the time, DeForest was physically in between them. What's wrong with this picture? Bill needed to be in the middle, where he belongs. Bill and Leonard were the whole time, until the very end, on opposite sides of the stage, and with a physical body separating them. It just bothered me; they weren't connecting like they would be if it was iust the two of them. Oh well.... They're both gorgeous and wonderful, however. I guess the 'getting old" gags were amusing, for a while, especially when Bill displayed his "muscle mass* and a flying kick. But then the audience questions were fucking asinine. (My grandmother's got 12 grandchildren and she... I came all the way from...it's my birthday...I stood in line...can I have your autograph...a hug?) Doesn't seem there was one intelligent question that led to any interesting discussion by any of the three of them. 
Con Reports for Minneapolis: August 3, 1996
Con Reports: San Francisco: August 1, 1998
Con Reports: Las Vegas: November 13, 1999
Con Reports: Las Vegas: August 1-3, 2003
Con Reports: Las Vegas: August 11-14
- from The K/S Press #86
- comments at Virgule-L, quoted anonymously (December 2, 1992)
- Morgan Dawn's personal notes, accessed August 4, 2016.
- from IDIC #5 (1989)
- from The Blackwood Project #11 (1991)
- Pat Heinske at The Wright Stuff, newsletter for U.S.S. Kitty Hawk
- by Bob Vosseller in Constitution Comments #4
- by Jason Genser in Constitution Comments #5
- from a fan in K/S & K.S. (Kindred Spirits) #19
- from Season in U.U.S.A.S.W.F.C. Zine
- from Come Together #24