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Caren Parnes
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Name: | Caren Parnes |
Alias(es): | CMP |
Type: | fanartist, vidder |
Fandoms: | Star Trek & Due South |
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URL: | ![]() Caren vidding with Mary Van Deusen (1980s) |
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Caren Parnes is primarily a fan artist (who did some vidding and writing as well) who was active from 1983 to about 1997. Her style was photo-realistic and her primary early fan influence was Alice Jones. She worked in pencil, pen and ink and color pencil. She credits Jean Kluge with providing her with the tips that she used to create her color pencil style (a "painterly" style of layered pencil on board). Her artwork has appeared in numerous fanzines.
Her first and favorite fandom was Star Trek (TOS), but she branched out to many other fandoms through the years as shown in the artwork shown here. She was one of the major K/S zine illustrators during the 80s and early 90s.
Caren won many awards for her art, including a 1985 K/Star Award.
Parnes was one of The Gang of Six. See The Gang of Six and "Courts of Honor".
Interviews
- Scribbling Women: Artists Talk Back (2007)
- Legacy Interview with Caren Parnes (2007)
- Media Fandom Oral History Project Interview with Gayle F and Caren P (2013)
Awards
- K/Star Award (1985, 1986)
- Fan Q Award (1986)
- Surak Award (1987, 1988)
- Philon Award (1997, 2000)
From a 2007 Interview: A Thank You
From Scribbling Women: Artists Talk Back:
Fandom gave me the opportunity to express my passion and really improve my style and technique.” So any aspiring artists out there, don’t bother with art school come and draw K/S! Caren continues “We are such a diverse group of women (excuse me—people, for the small minority of men who may be reading this), and this deep and abiding passion for the dream that this show created brought us together and created a true community— and in many cases family—which has endured through time. I am very grateful to have been able to participate in building and sustaining that community, and somewhat awed that work I did twenty years ago is still remembered. Blessings and Thanks to you all.
From a 2007 Interview: About Her Art:
Some of Caren's responses from excerpts in a 2007 article about the history for K/S art. From Scribbling Women: Artists Talk Back:
Were you conscious of the difficulties of reproduction which choosing a medium?: ... “for zines that were doing high quality screening for pencil or offset printing for color, I would use pencil or color pencil when I could (I enjoyed those more than pen and ink). However if I knew that the zine editor did not have a particularly good track record with reproducing art (and I was very picky about this!), I would choose pen and ink so it would reproduce well.”
What inspires you to draw K/S?: Caren Parnes, who says “I had drawn all my life,” was not happy enough with her writing to express K/S in fiction, and so for her drawing became an important way of engaging with K/S. She says, “I needed to express my love for the characters somehow, and that’s how it came out. I really wanted to write about them...but I was very critical of the writing I did when I first got into fandom. But since I became totally obsessed with Kirk and Spock and I needed to express it somehow, I started drawing. I had been drawing since I was a child (often on my walls, much to my mother’s chagrin!) and in my teenage years I played with portrait drawing a bit, but just dabbling. Fandom gave me the opportunity to express my passion and really improve my style and technique.” ...Like Leslie Fish, Caren was helped on her way by positive comments: she says, “I think I really became a good artist only when I got lots of positive feedback from the fan community to keep working at it. My first Shore Leave (1984) was an awesome experience—I still remember that Terry S. bought a Spock pen and ink I drew for $100 at auction and I nearly fainted! These editors, writers, and artists whom I had been admiring in zines for over a year came to me and fawned over my artwork at that convention, and whether it was ego-stroking or the sense of inclusion it gave me (most probably both), that experience cemented my involvement in fandom for the next twenty plus years.”
What kind of things do you try to express in your art? Beauty? Sexiness? A good likeness? Caren Parnes gets philosophical: she says, “I try for ‘Truth.’ I know, hackneyed, isn’t it? But actually, my primary goal and desire in drawing was to capture and project a little bit of the soul of whatever/whomever I am drawing—usually Kirk and Spock. Beauty is always nice, but not necessarily the object of the exercise. And yes, I DO want them to be a good likeness—I always think I have failed if they don’t look like they could walk off the page.”
Do you draw from your mind’s eye or do you use some kind of source material?: “I always envied those who could ‘illustrate’ without having a model to go from. I always needed something to draw from. My layout ideas and concepts were more or less original, but I needed to find models to execute them accurately.”
From a 2013 Interview: Becoming a Fan
From Media Fandom Oral History Project Interview with Gayle F and Caren P (2013):
... my family was always big on science fiction. We watched the original Outer Limits and Twilight Zone and all of those things, and Star Trek was being shown every Friday night — I believe it was Friday nights — on our TV from the year it started. So I would have been six, at the time that I was introduced to Star Trek. So it was my — probably one of the most seminal sort of touchstones for me, growing up and loving movies and TV. Being kind of a mediaphile, that has always been a foundation for me. When I was coming back from my sen— let me see, my year in England, in my junior year which would have been 1980. I came back that summer, and I was looking all over. What got me going there? I ran into a Blish book, I think in a used book store. And I had run into one of the ones I later found out was written by his wife, which started highlighting the relationship between Kirk and Spock more, sort of, than showing kind of the overall storylines. And I at that point really wasn't sure what it was that was kind of making me really focus on this, but I got back in a big way to wanting to watch Star Trek again. And reading about it. So I bought all the Blish books I ran into. Yeah, I think I read the Blish books and the New Voyages first. So I was introduced to the idea that there was fan fiction out there, and then I also bought Star Trek Lives, and I think somewhere along the line, now we're the summer after my graduation, so I was about 21, and it would have been 1982, and I went to a convention. I was living in San Francisco at the time. That was a comic convention, because I found out that there were no Star Trek conventions being run any more, at least not on the West Coast. And, it was one of those interesting things, where I was looking at some comic books that were Star Trek related, and this really wasn't what I wanted because I'm not a comic fan. And someone taps me on the shoulder, with a back pack on, and said — and I must have just had a little sign over my head — "Are you interested in, ah, K/S fanwriting? Fanfic?" She said that. So I'm looking at, you know, comics, and I said, "Yeah?" (laughter)... No [I didn't know what K/S was]. I— Well, I said— I think she said "Kirk—" She said, "K/S," and I said, "Star Trek?" but she did say, "Star Trek," and I said, "Well, what's K/S?" And she said, "Well, you know, there's Kirk Spock, relationship stuff, or the sexual relationship." (laughter) What?... I was about, yeah, 22, I think. So this is— She is fairly well known in fandom, Kathy Garbrook, in a variety of fandoms, and a funny little woman. And she pulled out — and I'm sitting next to the person who did the cover of this zine [1] — a zine called The Price and the Prize. Which has an interesting cover, and (laugh) she said, "Well, that's K/S." And I went (laugh) "How about that relationship stuff?" (laugh) So anyway I actually took away several Nomes and a couple of other zines from her, and was calling her a week later for more— and found a T'hy'la somewhere in the group — called Kathy Resch, who at that point was living in San Jose. And because of some issues she had had with people like, trolling her house, she didn't allow me to come by to pick them up, but she said, "There's actually a party at a person named Noel Silva's house, in another couple of weeks. Why don't you come and I'll bring some zines." And I was introduced to pretty much the entire fan group of Northern California at the time. And I was going to Shore Leave four months later with my first artwork, and it kind of went on from there.
From a 2013 Interview: Technique and Preference
For the record, I've only had one story and three poems published. A lot was in my drawer, that never saw the light of day. But I was an English major and I worshiped great writing, which is probably why I never wrote. I was 'way too intimidated by the really good writers in fandom. And I had always drawn, from the time that I was a child, and I had always drawn sort of— It was always— generally portrait work or animals. And, it was just very hit and miss, something would catch my eye, or I'd be interested in one piece. I might do a piece every five years, or something, and my skills were not very good, because I wasn't doing it regularly. And, it's— There's a fair amount of, I would say, between the Apple Macintosh computer coming on line— on the scene, and desktop publishing in general, and finding fandom, it's probably given me my career, because I'm a graphic designer now. And I never really would have had the nerve to try to pursue a fine arts career, I don't think. But honing skills in drawing for fandom, where there was actually a demand for the work that I did, made me much more— actually, take the attitude of it being sort of a vocation. And so I worked really hard to improve.
I had started with pencil drawings, basically just portrait drawings of the two of them. And let there be no question about my being interested in het at all. It was just Kirk and Spock for me from the very beginning. Or any other — god forbid — male being thrust between them! It had to be— I've always been an OTP girl. So, any fandom that I got into after that was always going to be one couple that I particularly liked, and nobody else. Unless it was to offset how much they loved each other, and— I also have to say that I kinda jumped into, when I got into fandom, my interest came back in Star Trek, obviously, when the films came out, and I was— I probably saw that same ship going round the nebula, about going around. I think I watched that movie nine times in the theater. It was like, go out for popcorn, do something during that fifteen-minute spread. But anyway, that got me very excited about being involved in something active, because the fandom had kind of been languishing before that. By the time that I got into it, it was already two films in, I think.
So the interest in that first— I think I had done — I do remember this — I had done a black and white, or a pen and ink, Spock. It was just a portrait of him in the Gol outfit. That was up at auction in Shore Leave the first year that I went to Shore Leave. And it got into a bidding war, and it went for a lot more money than I ever would have expected... it was a hundred dollars even. But that was more money than I had ever made for anything. I mean, I'd never made any money for anything that I'd created...
From a 2013 Interview: More About Her Art
See, I was never a great— Someone like Suzy Lovett was always much more adept at doing illustrations of actual scenes from stories. That was never my strength. I was very good at developing character for a portrait. So I hesitated to do a lot of story illustrations, because I just— It took me a great deal of time, they usually wanted two or three per story, and I just, I didn't have the time or the inclination to do that kind of art work. So, I ended up doing a few to begin with, just portrait pieces to put in as, you know, loose leaf, not to illustrate something. And then, fairly quickly, within a year or two, people were just asking me for covers. And as soon as color came in— I had been working on color, and had been working in a particularly— kind of in a style nobody was working in— (cough) or a few people. Linda Wood was one of the few who was in Star Wars fandom at the time that I came in, had a particular style of working with colored pencil, barrel Prismacolor on cardboard. In a layering style that wasn't the usual sort of sketchy look that pencil tended to have, for most people working on it in paper. So, it was a very distinctive style, that I started emulating, and worked with a lot of different substrates, and a variety of different pencil weights, and developed a particular style that I think people really liked. So as soon as color came out, and they were willing to do color covers for zines, I was doing a lot of covers, because my— I think my style was probably better in color than a lot of other folks who were doing color at that time. There were a lot of very good artists doing black and white pencil and pen and ink, but not that many had worked in color. So, and that was about mid-80s, I guess, when people started— it got cost-effective to do color.
Some Early Inspirations
Caren explains:
...“the first major influence and the style I most wanted to emulate was Alice J.’s. She was the ultimate “realist” artist and that was my natural inclination anyway. I recently ran into a copy of IDIC 6 (1978) that has a slew of her artwork in it and saw a piece I had forgotten; one that had a huge impact on fandom at the time, a piece called “The Pride of the Clan”—a young, bare- chested Spock with long hair and a Star of David on his chest. I remember several conversations about that piece of art when I got into fandom (and that was seven years after it was published!) [2]”
Caren continues:
“I also loved Pat S., Signe L., Connie F. and Michael V. when I first got into fandom. I loved Merle D.’s art, not so much because her stuff was realistic, but because she was synonymous in my mind with early hurt/comfort zines since she illustrated so many of them—I still get nostalgic when I see her artwork! Of course Gayle F. was already a legend when I got into fandom and I adored much of her color work (especially if you got to see the originals framed—she was as much an artist in the way she framed her art as in the art itself), but her artwork was too stylized for me to consider her an actual ‘influence.’ For color pencil, I totally stole my style from Linda W. [not the same as Linda W. who is interviewed in this article and who is one of the Associate Editors of Legacy] who was never even a Trek artist—she did a lot of early Star Wars and other multi-media artwork. She was doing prismacolor color pencils on cardboard (the cardboard was very important to get that ‘painterly’ quality since you can’t layer the same way on paper), and I studied her work to figure out how to do that myself. Suzan Lovett and I were roughly contemporary, and our styles were very different, but she had an influence on me (as she did on so many artists), with her intricate Celtic bordering and elaborate framing compositions—bringing decorative art and illustration together.” [3]
Notable Vids
Due South
- Let The River Run - Due South with Mary Van Deusen.
- My Problem is You - Due South with Mary Van Deusen.
- Staying Alive - Due South with Mary Van Deusen.
Star Trek
- The Rose
- Kiss Today Goodbye
- Total Eclipse of the Heart
Misc
- Callan - Just The Way You Are (Billy Joel)
- Beauty and the Beast - Sounds of Silence (Simon & Garfunkel)
- Beauty and the Beast - Hurts So Good (John Mellencamp)
- Blake's 7 - Against All Odds (Phil Collins)
- Every Step You Take - Fugitive with Mary Van Deusen (Police)
- So It Goes - Sherlock Holmes with Mary Van Deusen (Billy Joel)
- Shape of My Heart - Tombstone with Mary Van Deusen.
- Temper of My Revenge - Tombstone with Mary Van Deusen. Filk song sung by Julia Ecklar
A few of these early vids can be seen here or here (under GUEST), Archived version
Zine Contributions
- As I Do Thee
- Available Light
- Back-to-Back
- Before the Glory
- California K/S
- Close Doubles
- Come to Your Senses
- A Consortium of Light
- Counterpoint
- Daring Attempt
- Fantasies
- First Time
- First Time Calendar
- Galactic Discourse
- Gateway
- Heatwave
- In the Wilderness
- The K/S Art Project
- KaleidoScope
- The Last, Best Hope
- Legacy
- The Long Way Back
- KisMet
- Maine(ly) Trek
- Matter/Antimatter
- Mind Meld
- Naked Singularity
- No Holds Barred
- No Pants, No Badge, No Gun
- Nome
- Parallax Ring
- The Poets and I
- Powerplay
- Progressions
- Promises to Keep
- Quantum Quirkiness
- Rat Tales
- A River That Runs Both Ways
- Soul Surrender
- Teo Torriatte
- T'hy'la
- To Catch a Unicorn
- Vault of Tomorrow
- The Voice
- Whalesong
- Winter's End
Sample Art
Fan comment:
Before I ever met her, I collected copies of Caren's art and, when I could, originals that hung upon my bedroom walls. My major, at the U of Chicago, after physics, was the history of art. Color can, on rare occasions, make me cry in awe of beauty far beyond the day to day existence that I pass. Caren's art is photographic, going well beyond the pose into the heart. She draws each hair, each wrinkle, with such versimilitude that visitors disbelieve and walk on past until directed to look at this, and notice that, and then they, too, exclaim in wonder and praise the artist while I applaud the friend.
I wrote a story once that, like others that I wrote, cloaked mother's death in characters that lived in fantasy. On one facing page, Spock touches a mirrored reflection of a sleeping Kirk. Caren drew this piece. On another page, a healer looks out with pointed ears and Caren's face. This means a lot to me. [4]
Unknown Date
"Mulder & Scully" -- This may be the cover of Available Light (1995)
original art, Ray Doyle
1984
from Parallax Ring
from The Voice #4 -- In 2011, this image inspired Blackbird Song to write "He That Pricketh the Heart" for the 2011 KisMet convention zine, where it was voted "Best Story" -- this illustration was also included in The K/S Art Project (2011)
"Younger Kirk & Spock" originally in The Voice #4 (1984) - included in The K/S Art Project (1999)
from California K/S #1 -- "Caren P is certainly one of the very, very best artists that our fandom has. These few pages of art have three matching pairs of portraits of Kirk and Spock, a colour one, a TOS one and a movies one. The best technically, though they are all good, is the colour one of Spock, you can see the very texture of his hair and skin even down to the scar on his cheek! These colour pictures look like photo's of the art which have been stuck in separately, they are glued on to the zine. I am amazed they are still there after so many years! There is also a fantastic one of the movie Spock, how Caren has captured that slight smile in his eyes I'll just never know, looks like its done with a pencil wash, a hard medium to control and very well handled. I think this might be my favourite picture of Spock ever yet, though I have so many favourites!"[5]
original "Younger Spock," later included in The K/S Art Project, a black and white version was used in Before the Glory in 1988
from California K/S #1 -- "Talk about an eye-catching front cover! All that skin! For those of you who aren’t fortunate enough to have seen this particular masterpiece by [Caren P.] (those of you who have are probably still breathing heavily), the cover features a completely naked Jim and Spock kissing. Kisses are especially hard to do and this one is quite nice, but frankly the last thing I’m looking at are their mouths. Have I mentioned the lovely shading of their skin? I’ve always thought that Spock has a perfectly lovely rounded butt, and it’s displayed to perfection here, along with his double ridges, which are just starting to take notice of what’s in store for them within a very few minutes. And can you believe that it was a very long time before I realized that Kirk’s nicely-veined and thickened, uh, penis and, uh, accoutrements (I especially like the accoutrements) are also not only visible but giving adequate reason for why some ancient societies thought phallic worship a very worthwhile occupation. Not us, of course. We’ve moved beyond that. Haven’t we? Have I mentioned the glorious shading up Spock’s back, or the lovely tension in Kirk’s arm as he leans back on it the better to lean forward into pressing his mouth to Spock’s? Or the utterly delightful way his right leg is raised slightly and bent at the knee, the better for his t’hy’la to lean upon it. Seems to me to be a wonderful position that should be repeated frequently. Somebody owns the original of this picture! If you’re reading this, would you consider mentioning me in your will?" [6]
from California K/S #1
from California K/S #1
from California K/S #1
from California K/S #1 -- "...some of the finest work I've seen, including an Admiral Kirk with a half smile, gentle, mature, one who has, I suspect, his Spock and his, ship. This is fine work and only professional printing can capture the detail. [7]
"Older Kirk", from California K/S #1 -- "The TOS portrait of Kirk is a very good likeness indeed, the movies one I think even more so. Again Kirk eyes are very striking as they look up and away (at Spock?). Kirk is so hard to draw, but looking at these pictures of him by Caren, I stop trying to see how another artist has handled it and just appreciate the picture as a whole, they are that convincing! Now even if every story in this zine is a disaster I am delighted to own it for those six pages alone!" [8]
from Naked Singularity
1985
from Nome #8 for the story, Fantasies by Beverly Sutherland
from Back-to-Back #2 (Hardcastle & McCormick)
"Starsky," winner of a 1985 Encore Award
from Gateway #2
from Progressions for the story, Beyond Trust
cover of Nome #8 (1985) -- "This name on a piece of art is all I need to tell me it will be extraordinary. It will be sensitive, it will be realistic, it will frequently tell a story. Such is this NOME cover depicting Kirk as he appeared in STIII, his eyes cast upward and to his right where there is an image of Spock in his white robe, surrounded by flame. Nestled in the opposite corner is a sketch of the Enterprise being incinerated in the atmosphere of Genesis while her crew looks on. This piece speaks eloquently of sacrifice and of hope." [10]
cover of As I Do Thee #3 -- The composition of the piece is modeled on a scene from the episode "This Side of Paradise," but with Kirk in place of the female love interest.
1986
from Daring Attempt #4, page 121 -- "Caren Parnes has captured Spock perfectly in his familiar pose of meditation. Hands steepled carefully before him, dark robe accenting his gleaming hair and obsidian eyes. I think the eyes are what do it for me. As he looks slightly downward, no definition shows -- just blackness. This likeness is better than a photo -- it’s filled with mystery. What are the thoughts behind those dark lashes? What has prompted his ritualistic pose? I believe he’s thinking of love." [11]
from The Voice #5
from First Time #6
from First Time #6
"Kirk & the Eagle", from First Time #6
from Mind Meld #3
from Teo Torriate
from Nome #9
from Nome #9 This illustration for the story "Intermezzo" was used in Enterprising Women
from Heatwave
from Vault of Tomorrow #9, portrait of Sarek
1987
from Powerplay #1
from Powerplay #1
from Whalesong #1
from Galactic Discourse #5
back cover of First Time #13 (1987)
cover of First Time #50 -- "The covers to FT 50 are a collage of covers of older issues, highlighted by a new color piece by long time GREAT artist Caren Parnes. Well, maybe it's not new, but I haven't seen it before. I can't read the date on it. It's a color Kirk and Spock that anyone would love to own a print of. It's gen, but who cares? On the front, the former covers celebrated are from First Time 1--[Gayle F]; FT 27--Marilyn Cole; FT 42--Shelley Butler; and FT 45--the late great Chris Soto."" [12]
original art used for the cover of First Time #50, included in The K/S Art Project
from Nome #10 (1987)
from Mind Meld #4
cover of First Time #13 (1987)
cover of "Vault of Tomorrow" #12 (1987)
1988
from T'hy'la #7
from Matter/Antimatter #6, titled "When Legends Meet"
cover of "The Last Best Hope" -- "even after reading this, i still have no idea why there's a hawk and a horse on the cover (i'm guessing blake's the horse... and that he runs free? but it's not clear), but it's over-the-top and brilliant in its own way. the colouring is really nice and beautifully textured and, although i think blake looks a bit young for the series 2 outfit he's depicted in, it's a nice picture. i like the avon less - and his pose is a bit... nothingy, where as blake is obviously being inspired or something. but overall: i like this cover." [13]
1989
from The Long Way Back -- "this cover doesn't work for me, even now i know the rose is a major plot point and not just a pretty flower. i've only just realised that there's a sun and a moon behind them... but i guess it makes more sense than blake's head being on fire. he looks old, which is fine, because he's supposed to be pretty old at this point. but it's... a strange choice for your romantic cover." [14]
1991
from A River That Runs Both Ways, also the cover of Strange Bedfellows #5 -- "This is the badass Frank I know and love." [15]
from First Time #29 "These covers are lovely. They are Caren Parnes' usual "photographic" style, but the backgrounds are black which I don't think is unusual for her. The front shows a young version of our lovers; the back, an older version. I prefer the back as Kirk really looks quite handsome in this one. These are the same covers as on THE POETS AND I. They deserve repeating."
"The front cover shows us a very young captain and first officer just starting out on their legendary journey. Behind them rides their ship, truly a silver lady. From the innocence depicted on their faces, they don‘t know yet where this command will take them, what hardships they will endure, what triumphs they will share, what trials will turn trust into love." [16]from First Time #29 -- "These lovely covers were done to celebrate the 25th anniversary of Star Trek and published in 1991. If you are familiar with this artist‘s work you know how fabulous she is. I don‘t know what I can say about these pieces except these are more of the glorious same. [...] The back cover gives us Kirk and Spock as admiral and captain, circa Star Trek II. The viewer can see the experiences—both good and bad—that lights their eyes, the quiet comfort they take in each other, and I fancy I can see the love they have found as well. Behind them is the refitted Enterprise. I wish I could reach into the picture and tell them that though there will be grief to come, they will also find each other again. Thank you for these, Caren." [17]
1992
"Kirk, Spock & The Enterprise", from T'hy'la #11 (1992)
from No Holds Barred #2
"Holmes & Watson", from No Holds Barred #1
1993
from Counterpoint #9 -- "What a beautiful cover! Especially this Kirk upper left is so handsome. Looks like a photo, but unlike a photo, this picture shows all of his gentle personality. And the two of then together in the middle -- Kirk looks so shy, I think, because he's going to tell Spock that he loves him. And Spock will answer, "I know, Jim, don't be ashamed. I too feel love for thee." Really wonderful!" [18]
1994
from Quantum Quirkiness
from First Time #40, see fan comments at Intergalactic Gallery
from First Time #40, see fan comments at Intergalactic Gallery
from In the Wilderness #4 -- "... love the art here, how Jim touches him barely, and Spock's reaction." [20]
1995
from Promises to Keep -- "Last week, two repairmen were in my house and one of them came into my dining room, which is covered with Trek memorabilia. He twisted his hands, lowered his head and muttered that he was a Trek fan, too. 'I like the guy with the visor,' he said, speaking to the floor. 'And I like the robot, a little. But what I really like,' he pointed up and at the original cover of Promises to Keep that I have framed on the wall, 'are those two fellows Kirk and Spock. Do you like them, too?' Needless to say, he did an excellent job installing my air ducts, and I kept him supplied with lemonade throughout the day." [21]
"Until you read the novel, you cannot possibly understand the symbolism of this gorgeous color artwork. Both Spock and Kirk are drawn in exquisite detail and with the accuracy of a camera lens. And yet, the camera would not capture them so -- because this is how they appear in their melds: perfection. Flawless, timeless, handsome, sensitive. Unbelievable. The closer you look the more fine features you see. Tiny vessels in the whites of Kirk’s eyes, impeccably trimmed strands of Vulcan hair. Truly a piece to be treasured. Praise be to the thoughtful editor who chose to protect this masterpiece beneath a clear cover." [22]
1996
"Sonny Crockett", Miami Vice, from No Holds Barred #11
cover of Winter's End (1996)
1997
cover of Soul Surrender (1997)
cover of No Holds Barred #15 (1997)
cover of Kaleidoscope #6
2000-2010s
from Come to Your Senses #25 (2003)
"Kirkhawke" in T'hy'la #33
References
- ^ Caren P is talking about how, in this interview, she is sitting next to Gayle F, the artist who did the front of The Price and The Prize.
- ^ see "Pride of the Clan" at IDIC #6
- ^ from Scribbling Women: Artists Talk Back
- ^ comments by Mary Van Deusen at Friends
- ^ from Communicator #23
- ^ from The K/S Press #40
- ^ from Communicator #23
- ^ from The K/S Press #101
- ^ Debbie Gilbert from Communications Console (July/Aug 1985)
- ^ from The K/S Press #139
- ^ from The K/S Press #38
- ^ from The K/S Press #42
- ^ aralias reviewed this zine in June 2013 on Dreamwidth, Archived version; on Live Journal.
- ^ aralias reviewed this zine in 2013 on Dreamwidth, Archived version.
- ^ from a mailing list, quoted anonymously (November 2010)
- ^ from The K/S Press #142
- ^ from The K/S Press #142
- ^ from The LOC Connection #52
- ^ Shore Leave con report Come Together #8
- ^ Denise Dion's post to K/S Zine Friends Facebook Group dated October 1, 2012, quoted with permission.
- ^ from The K/S Press #1
- ^ from The K/S Press #41