Jane of Australia

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Name: Jane (of Australia)
Alias(es): JJ, Kathy Keegan, Madelaine Ingram, Jade, JJ Downes, J.J Adamson, JJ Adams, Felicity Granger. Other rumored aliases: Jack Heston, Viv Alexander, Adam Jenson, Jane Sterling, and Peta Brock.
Also some pro names: two are Michelle Goddard,[1] and the one that dare not say its name... [2]
Type: fan writer, zine editor
Fandoms: The Professionals, Due South, Starsky & Hutch
Communities:
Other:
URL: a list of Jane's Professionals fiction and pseuds
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Jane wrote and published simply as Jane; the "of Australia" got added later by other fans, to differentiate between the several Janes in fandom, especially Professionals fandom, including Jane Carnall and Jane Mailander.

See List of Fanworks by Jane of Australia. See List of Fanworks by Kathy Keegan.

Her mother-in-law was Gerry Downes, the fan famous for her seminal slash zines.[3]

Jane was definitely a Pros BNF, a very prolific writer with a fairly distinct style. In Pros, she liked her Doyle a bit fragile and delicate, and the bottom in his relationship with Bodie. She mostly wrote in Pros, due South, and Starsky and Hutch. Her stories and novels were very much loved for their intricate plots, and very much hated by the more realism-loving fans. Whether disliked or adored, she was definitely used as an icon by both sides in the fannish culture wars in the late 80s-early 90s.

One fan wrote of this fannish divide and remembered the "...great Jane of Australia debate in which opinion seems to be pretty evenly divided between those who adore her work and those loathe it." [4]

She first participated in both the Star Wars and Star Trek fandoms during the 1980s. In the early to mid-1980s, she began to publish gen fanzines under the press name, Entropy Express. [5]

Jane also worked on the fanzine Multiverse with fellow Australian Nikki White and contributed stories to The Professionals fanzine Backtrack under the name "Adam Jenson," perhaps others. Both she and Nikki White were recognized for their high quality contributions to the Australian fanzine scene.[6] Her zine press was Nut Hatch (and its many variations), which published stories by Jane and her pseuds, as well as stories by Wally (and Rob?).

Also see Interview with Jane of Australia.

Some of Jane's Pros fiction is available at The Circuit Library.

Went Pro

In the late 1990s, Jane filed the serial numbers off many of her fanfic novels and published them as gay fiction under a different name, in some cases changing little more than the names—the original fanfic stories were AUs, not dependent on the source's setting. While she never publicly connected her professional name to her fannish pseud(s), it's an open secret in Pros fandom.

A fan in 2015 wrote:
...I've always figured [ Jane] didn't file off the serial numbers from her fanfic, but wrote original characters, then changed the names and appearance descriptions so she could market the texts as both pro m/m and fanfic. Jane's characters mostly bear little resemblance to Bodie or Doyle, either, even giving her all the slack of almost always writing in AUs. [7]

Pseuds

She also published under many pseudonyms. Jane could be quite rude, including threatening legal action, when people openly connected her pseudonyms to her Jane person. [8]

Obviously, some fans became confused with Jane and other fans' names, enough so to have her make this statement (as Kathy Keegan) in 1991's Encore!:
Just a few words this time — a few minor clarifications which are long overdue. First, to the matter of identity. Madelaine Ingram is not the same writer as Lainie Stone! The 'pet' form of the name, 'Lainie' may have caused some confusion, but I assure you these are two different writers. Also, 'our' Jane here at Nut Hatch is not England's Jane Carnall. The Jane responsible for the Raven/Bodie stories is a resident of Australia, and not to be confused with the English lady. Also, I am not Kathy Snow! Like Jane, I am an Australian, while Kathy Snow lives in California.
A fan in 2008 wrote:
...it's pretty certain that Jane and Kathy Keegan are the same - I think you and I've had that conversation before! *g* If not, then it's a terrible coincidence that Mel Keegan has nicked some of Jane's (and Kathy Keegan's) Pros fic word-for-word and re-published it as original fic... *g* " AND "I don't think it's rude to ask Jane's professional pen-name at all! Having matched up, almost word-for-word, various Pros fics written by Jane, with what are now original fics under another name and with the characters renamed - I'm absolutely confident myself that Jane is now writing original fiction as "Mel Keegan". Either that or MK is a nasty little plagiarist... *g* I'm thinking the former! This is her website if you're interested... (Another of Jane's pseuds in Pros was "Kathy Keegan", if you've not come across that before...) [9]
A fan in 2015 wrote:
The thing about [M K] is that it was well known, I think--pretty hard to miss!--but Jane did everything possible to keep her pro identity and her fannish ones separate. She hated when somebody drew the obvious line between [M K's] m/m books (published back in the day by the now defunct Gay Man's Press, then later by her own press) and her identically titled and identical text, other than names and appearances, B/D stories.

For me, it was never a secret because I read [M K's] books before I got into fandom. So when I came into Pros fandom and saw all these zines with the same titles, well! But nobody in fandom talked about it much. Instead, we argued vehemently for unbelievable lengths of time in delightfully circular iterations about whether Jane was a "good" or a "mediocre" writer. The fandom was very split between Jane lovers and Jane shruggers. Jane of Australia was kind of like the Beatles vs. Rolling Stones dichotomy. *g*...

snipped]

Anyway, Jane never passed herself off as other than a female fan like the majority of the rest of us. [M K] is generally considered male, perhaps, out in the world of m/m publishing, but that didn't impact the fandom at all.

Jane's only weirdness in regards to pseuds was her insistance that Kathy Keegan is a separate person, absolutely not Jane's pseud. Jane admitted Madeleine Ingram was her pseud, but not Kathy. That Kathy and [M K] share a last name is a coincidence! That Kathy Keegan and Jane/Madeleine Ingram/[M K] write in identical styles is also a coincidence! Oookay. It was amusing more than anything else. Jane published her own zines, wherein Kathy Keegan edited Jane's stories and Jane edited Kathy's and Madeleine's stories and they both wrote glowing editorial introductions about the other's works. :)

There might've been other Jane pseuds, come to think about it; I vaguely recall some speculation. 1 of them might've been a male pseud. But if so, that "male" writer was so minor as to be a nonentity and was never used to leverage any kind of authority in the fandom. [10]
Jane's denial about being Kathy Keegan — in 1990, Jane wrote in the forward to Clan of the White Fox
I want to thank the people who are circulating the rumour that Kathy and I are the same person. That's fabulously flattering (even if it isn't true). In fact...have you added together the number of pages Kathy writes, and Jane writes? Truth is, you're ascribing about 750,000 WORDS PER YEAR to one writer, and I don't know that that would be physically possible for any one writer. Three quarters of a million words a year! But it certainly is enormously flattering to be credited with Kathy's work. It comes as a real compliment! Unless it's Kathy being credited with mine. Hmmm.... Anyway, suffice to say, it takes two of us to wade through the amount we write, and if you stop to think about it, and add it up, it's fairly obvious. (Also, if you compare styles, Kathy's way of putting words together is much more gritty; and her characters love expletives!)
Kathy Keegan's denial about being Mel Keegan -- in 1993, Kathy Keegan wrote in Fantazine #5:
One day, many moons after Hellgate was conceived, two characters called Jarrat and Stone took to the spaceways — and hereby hangs a tale. Or do I mean, tail?! First, a mildly astonishing fact: Mel Keegan's first NARC book, Death's Head, was penned in 1985, and went through four incarnations and six drafts before it found its way into professional print.

Special Note: don't mix old Kath up with Mel Keegan! I don't deserve the credit for those novels, didn't earn it, won't accept it if you try to say that I wrote the NARC books. I didn't! Categorically. Not one single word of them. Coincidentally, however, my unmarried name was Keegan; but there the connection ends ... like my state of wedded, uh, bliss. For want of a better word. (I know: my life is a soap opera). So, let me state for the record, a penultimate time: do not hand the credit for Mel Keegan books to me because of a coincidence of by-line, that would be unfair, unjust and just plain wrong!! Right.

That said, I have to make a confession before my own novel begins. I borrowed all the technology for this piece right out of the NARC books [by Mel Keegan]. Only steal from the best! And if an acknowledgment should go to anyone upon the writing of this book (and it darned well ought to), then I have to thank the esteemed creator of Jarrat and Stone on my bended knees for putting me right on the science for this novel.

See fannish discussion:

Lists of pseuds/fics:

Gafiated

Jane left fandom in a classic long and angry swan-song flounce on May 17, 2006, in a message to Zinelist [11] in which she expressed her unhappiness with complaints over unfilled zine orders and attributed them to malice and fandom's unwillingness to stand up to negative elements. [12]

Jane's flounce came in the form of an open letter addressed to "fans at large." It was 27k in length, and touched upon (among many other things): Ugly Americans, Mark Twain, the woman from Denver, warm hats and home-cooked meals, email problems, Gerry Downes, being unappreciated, gossip, and the 1% of fans who needed be to scolded and the other 99% who put up with them. [13]

Fan reaction to Jane's open letter on Zinelist consisted of those who supported Jane, those who felt her letter was self-indulgent and poorly-conceived, and those who had no idea who Jane was. [14]

A fan posts: "[The Nut Hatch] was closed, and its website removed from the internet, following an apparent misunderstanding on one of the discussion lists in April/May 2006. Jane declared that she was leaving Pros fandom, and would not be giving permission for anyone else to reprint her stories or zines. This means that stories printed by the Nut Hatch Collective, unless they had been previously archived online, or unless writers other than Jane give permission for their work to be printed elsewhere (and it is suspected that Jane wrote under many pseudonyms), will only be available via secondhand zines." [15]

A fan in 2015 wrote:
Speaking of Pros, are we especially, um, blessed with orig fic m/m writers playing in the fandom or does it just seem that way?
Jane of Australia = [M K]
Angelfish = Harper Fox
[name redacted] = Josh Lanyon = Diana Killian = an actualfax woman with some other rl name
I don't know if it's significant of something or not that, as a fandom, we managed to drive 2 of those 3 to flounce. *g* In the usual ridiculous, eye-rolly, cliched flounce ways! [16]

Fanworks

See List of Fanworks by Jane of Australia. See List of Fanworks by Kathy Keegan.

A listing of all of Jane's Professionals fan fiction written under the various fannish pseuds can be found here.

  • The Hunting (Professionals), a five-volume elf AU that defined elf AUs in the fandom for years.
  • Gentle on My Mind (Professionals), a five-volume AU with a brain-damaged Doyle. (Later expanded to a sixth volume by Joana Dey) The story series was loved, parodied, and influenced other disability fic stories.
  • Rainy Days (Professionals), a series of stories set after Ray Doyle is (canonically) shot. This one is definitely a fragile Doyle series.
  • Flesh & Steel Series (Professionals), a set of three novels where Ray Doyle is a vampire and Bodie is a werewolf. This series came later in her writing and featured a stronger Doyle than her usual characterization.
  • "Two-Up" (Professionals), an early WNGWJLEO story that was seen as homophobic and to which Jane Carnall wrote the responsefic Two-Up Truly Queered

As "Jade" The Artist

In addition to her many pen names, Jane also created and sold fan art under the name Jade. It consisted mostly of photo-manipulations. Her art was sold as bookmarks, fridge magnets, trading cards, and tote bags. See Starsky & Hutch, Highlander, and LOTR art pages.

Gallery of Art Samples as "Jade"

Reactions/Reviews

Comprehensive reviews of Jane's body of work are rare, and almost never in the pages of letterzines, the most common form of public fannish discussion before the internet. Most fannish commentary can be found on the pages of the fanzines that Jane herself published.

For an interesting discussion about Jane's work in its time, see commentary regarding the circuit story Old Longings.

Many fans enjoyed her fiction and her stories frequently appear on rec lists.

However, some fans had mixed emotions about Jane's use of pseudonyms, the overwhelming AU nature of her universes, her characterizations (especially of Raymond Doyle), and the repetitiveness to some of her stories.

1993

I wish this guy [Adam Jenson, one of Jane's pseuds] was more prolific - I have enjoyed all four of the Blake's 7 stories of his I have found. He is obviously an Avon fan, and not in the Avon-was-mad school, so that is probably a contributing factor in my enjoyment. [17]

1994

"Jane" is prolific. Jane may even be more than one person, according to some rumors I've heard. Either that, or she doesn't need to work for a living and can also type 120 words per minute on a bad day. Jane churns out AUs like they're going out of style, and still has time for CI5-based stories on the side. What a gal.

My first exposure to this legend of Pros Productivity came in 1992, when, as a naive and unsuspecting new Pros fan, I avidly sought out every story ever penned with the names "Bodie" and "Doyle" somewhere within, hounding my Pros mentor, Sandy, with a relentless intensity which would have frightened lesser mortals. Sandy loaned me lots of good stuff, but one day, no doubt in a fit of temporary bad taste, she gave me "Labyrinth", an AU Novel From Hell by Jane.

Ahem. Well, okay, I was still ravenous at that point, so I actually read the thing. It was bad. The plot was absurd, the characterizations were annoying, and every other page everything stopped for a sex scene. Which may be why I kept reading it. But it took me a long, long time to finish it, since every time I picked it up I thought, "You'd have to be brain dead to really like this." At a certain point, masochism took over, forcing me to finish it just so I could sigh with relief when I was done. Never again, I thought, will I touch a novel by Jane.

I did deign to try a few random short stories by her, which did nothing to alter my previous view. "Sappy" is the word that most comes to mind.

Then someone told me about "The Hunting", and I gagged a lot. And then someone else told me the plot of "Gentle on My Mind", and when I was done vomiting, I vowed never to allow Jane to cross my threshold again.

Well, she did. What can I say, it must just be my forgiving nature. (Those of you who know me can stop laughing now.) Someone on the list offered me a copy of "Falconhurst", a novel by Jane. Someone else told me it was pretty decent, and wasn't an AU. Okay, so in a moment of weakness (and cheapness--it was free, after all), I said, Fine, send it to me.

It sat on my shelf of Unread Fanfic (legendary, that shelf is) for some weeks until I was struck by a summer cold that laid me out flat on the couch for 3 days. Searching for something with which to entertain myself, I grabbed the first thing off the top of the Unread Fanfic Tower. Yup, it was "Falconhurst." And you know what? I've discovered the secret to liking Jane. All it takes is a raging head cold which causes all of your brain cells to cease functioning. Here's my synopsis of "Falconhurst":

Bodie & Doyle wind up guarding a recuperating Kodai (you know, that hunky blond assassin from "Stopover") at this isolated mansion where spooky things are happening.

They arrive at the mansion. They have sex. They eat. They have sex. They read books. They have sex. Spooky things happen. They have sex. They climb up and down stairs a lot. They have sex. They go for walks. They have sex. They talk to Kodai about the KGB and CI5 and feel sorry for him. They have sex. They read some more books. They have sex. They talk to the housekeeper. They have sex. They talk to the folk museum owner from the village. They have sex. They go on another tour of the mansion. They have sex. More spooky things happen. They have sex. They talk to Kodai some more about the KGB and CI5 and feel sorry for him again. They have sex in a bathtub.

And so on. Hey, it was light, it was total schlock, it was conflict and angst-free, but it made absolutely perfect Brain Dead Stuffed-Up Head reading matter. Honest. Try it sometime. I mean, you can stop reading anywhere you want, take a four-hour Nyquil-induced nap, and pick it up again without ever worrying about what you'd read before or what's going on, 'cause

it doesn't really matter. Perfect.[18]
Ah, Jane, the Barbara Cartland of the Fannish world! (This woman's actually proud to say that she has lifted some of her plots from Cartland's novels!) Actually, that sounds like one of her better ones. The last thing I read of hers involved a chase through the country side of a notorious international murderer/rapist/whatever (who "just enjoyed inflicting pain"), flashfloods, sex, her idea of angst, and very little logic. Come to think of it though, it might have been by someone else (yes, actually someone else, not one of her other "selves"), just put out by her. First clue: B&D managed to keep their clothes on for at least two pages, at least once! (They did however stop in the middle of a tense chase, in the middle of a thunderstorm just as they finally spoted the guy they'd been after to have a heart to heart and a torrid fuck. Now, I have nothing against heart to hearts--and I certainly have no objections to torrid fucks--but I mean time and place...) [19]

1998

[after posting a snarky aside]: I apologize for being nasty to Jane - I sometimes don't dislike her stories, and I am sure there are worse authors. I was just trying to be funny, but I shouldn't have slammed a person wholesale just because it is unfair and Not a Good Thing To Do. So, again - apologies. Jane is not my first choice, and the problem is compounded by her prolifically: if she does something that is my anti-kink, I am bound to see it OFTEN and so I get really impatient after the umpteenth story with it... *Sigh* [20]

2005

Poor old Jane! It doesn't surprise me at all that you might like something she's written. For example, I love the first five sections of The Hunting. I know lots of negative things have been written about her, but I think the bottom line is that she's a fine story teller which is all I ask, really. A while ago, last year I think, Justacat wrote a very eloquent piece on why it's possible to enjoy different styles of Pros writers, styles ranging from someone like Sebastian right through to Jane. (I think she'd just read Czardis - not sure of spelling).[21]

2006

Jane's trilogy is one that... I read more an original fantasy series infused with hints of Bodie and Doyle, rather than an AU closely tied to the Pros characters. Especially in her fantasy AUs, Jane often seems to base characters on actors, driven by physical characterics rather than personality - which is the exact opposite way that I approach a story. But if you can stop looking for recognizable Pros-versions of Bodie and Doyle, the Wolfen trilogy can be a good fantasy read.[22]

2008

The thing is - I don't remember being so eye-roll-y when I was first reading Jane's stories, and I'm starting to wonder now if perhaps it's not me, as I originally thought (getting tougher with fic - getting tougher with the causes of fic... *g*) but maybe something more to do with a change in Jane's own style over the years... I might be completely away with the fairies here (heh) but... I thought I might try and start matching up some dates, some Jane-fic and the way the lads are characterised in that Jane-fic. Aaaand... because it'll take me forever to read all the Jane-fic, I'd really appreciate anyone else's help with this! [23]
I don't really remember Jane's work well enough to make any kind of meaningful comment on whether or not her style changes, but, as we've touched on elsewhere, I think we do seem to get more picky and more discerning as we read more Pros, so maybe it's us rather than her? I don't know. Having said that, one of her later stories, Professionals: Gambit 2000 (can't remember the exactly title) *is* quite different from her earlier stuff. And then you've got the division between her 'Hunting' period (where *I* think she shows a real gift for old-fashioned story telling) and the ci5 stuff. Thinking about the story mentioned here, there's something very appealing about the idea of Bodie in the Sudan, but if you swapped them for Bodie and a woman, or any male and female, I know I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole! Funny, really...[24]
Erm... I have a dear old friend who is addicted to Jane. I have to admit that Jane's work is not to my taste as I can't actually wrap my head around her take on either of the lads. My friend has continued to push me toward reading certain Jane stories telling me "this is the one that will change your mind." Nothing so far has worked... Clearly and FTR, I am not questioning anyone else's interest in/support for Jane as an author it is just *not* to my taste as I relish the equality between the lads and I'm not really a reader of "traditional" romances anyway.[25]
Oh, there are alot of people who adore Jane's writing! And the thing is that I remember liking alot of Jane stories when I was first in Pros. Granted my tastes have refined since those heady days of voracious reading, but even then I had preferences and squicks, and fainting-weepy-Doyle has always been one of them. So it seems odd that I should notice it much more now - maybe I'm reading a different period of Jane's fic, since mostly it's zines I read her in these days? One of my wonderings... *g* [26]
...it has been my experience that *every* fandom has at least a small list of authors that are so widely loved that to be critical of them is to perhaps face more of a back lash than expected. That's why I always choose to emphasize it being an issue of personal taste. From a critical perspective, I feel she is a a pretty good storyteller, she just doesn't tell stories that interest me. I believe she has also written quite a bit of AU and I've never read any of it because I just don't care for AU no matter how well written it might be.[27]
Some authors are using the form as "training wheels" for their own original non-canon concepts, while others enjoy the fanfic of a particular series for its own sake and are very much attached to the characters as presented in canon...with one or two very slight changes.:)

Yes, I suspect you've hit the nail on the head right here - and that probably explains why I'm not at all keen on the training-wheel sort of fic, and thus not keen on alot of Jane's fic. Fanfic is definitely good for getting people writing - although I've always always written, over the last twenty years or so I didn't finish anything, or ever persevere at anything much until I got into Pros, and I'm feeling alot more satisfied and confident about my writing now! It's also reminded me of how much I enjoy writing, and really need to make time for it around all the other "real life" things that I have to do!

That said... if someone's got an original concept/story in mind, I'm never quite sure why they don't just write it as original, rather than shoehorning fandom characters into it? I mean, there's a definite comfort in writing characters that you're familiar with, but if you're changing their personalities so much that they're no longer those characters, then... is it that the comfort stays in place, perhaps, until you change their names?

to the characters as presented in canon...with one or two very slight changes.:) Lol - I'd alter this very slightly: "to the characters they see in canon"... *g* Authors may make no changes at all to the characters they see in canon - but I might see them completely differently... *g*

As with many good original fiction writers, sticking to canon in fanfic seems to have become tedious, and she seems to long to strike out in new directions rather than just "going through the motions". Another possible reason why I get on less well with some of Jane's AUs than I do other authors... I think there are at least two reasons that authors write AUs: one is, as you say, that they're bored with canon and want to stretch out; the other is that they're interested in exploring how the characters might fit in/react in completely different situations. I can totally understand the latter motivation, because I feel that myself. It's the characters of B/D that fascinate me, rather than the CI5 universe, though that has its own fascination. So I'm perfectly happy to see those characters elsewhere, whether it's in Victorian England or the planet Mars.

I think it's generally obvious when an author is bored with the whole show, rather than just canon though - the characters become less "themselves" as the writer explores other things - not just other times and places, but other personalities. At that point - where the lads are no longer B/D - then that author has lost me, and that's one of the things I was exploring above with my "adorable" little table... where did Jane hit that point? Where do I feel that she moved on from the characters that I see in the show to some other characters entirely? Or was her view of them ever the same as mine?

So presumably there was at some point a confidence-jump for Jane - a point at which she was brave enough not only to write her own characters, but to give them their own names and claim them as her own rather than leaving some of the responsibility for those stories with someone else (Brian Clemens in this case)...

Presumably other people deal with such "boredom" in other ways - changing fandoms to something else which grabs you seems to be fairly popular! [28]
Jane is (in)famous for making explicit WNGWJLEO statements in her fic. It would be interesting to see if that's something that was more pronounced earlier on (thinking Two-up, 1986, and Jane Carnall's response althernative ending).[29]
One of the first things I ever read in Pros was Jane's Wolven trilogy - Flesh and Steel (1994), Blood and Fire (1994) and Soul and Storm (1999).

Bearing in mind that it's well over five years since I read these stories, my recollection of them is that Doyle is the dominant character here - he's a vampire, the leader of an army, and a man who knows exactly what he wants and doesn't hesitate to take it. Bodie is a werewolf who can foresee the future and is a far more submissive character, readily agreeing to a life in Doyle's service until such time as he can prove himself to be as great a leader of men as his master. By the end of the trilogy the two are living together as equals.

It's quite likely that the passage of time may have clouded my remembrance of these stories, but I'm fairly certain that I haven't seen this same Bodie/Doyle dynamic in any of Jane's other stories. If there are any that follow a similar pattern then I'd be very happy to read them! [30]

2011

...she can plot an adventure story. She has a good flowing prose, a bit flowery but often very sensuous and agreeable. I disagree with you on her characterisation. I find them unrealistic, not someone I can even like or dislike, because they don't sound/look/behave like real people. I simply don't believe in them. I can dislike a character by MFae or Helen Raven, because they are godawful little shits (the characters not the writers!) but they sound/look/behave much more realistic to me in the sense of sounding like human beings, so I can always believe in them.[31]

References

  1. "DEEP WATER: that paperback novel by Michelle Goddard ... aka Jane!", Archived version
  2. Jane & Kathy Keegan's Pros Stories; archive link
  3. "The Compleat Alternative is an authorized reprint of the Alternative saga, written by Gerry Downes in the 70s. Her daughter in law, JJ Downes (known as Jane in many fandoms), has brought the k/s classic back to vibrant life." -- Jane's ad in The K/S Press in 2002: the ad is here, Archived version
  4. from Discovered in a Letterbox #23 (2002)
  5. she links the name J.J. Adamson and Jane in her 2002 ad for the reprint for The Compleat Alternative here
  6. Collecting Books and Magazines
  7. comment by Istia at Random Thursday, October 2, 2015
  8. from a personal letter to Sandy Herrold by Jane which threatened legal action, 1984, mentioned by Sandy on Virgule-L on November 24, 1996: "I once mentioned the *possibility* of them being the same person in a small Pros apa, and immediately received a letter from her promising legal action if I ever insinuated anything of the sort again." -- quoted with permission
  9. Jane again!, comment by byslantedlight, October 16, 2008 ; [https://archive.is/Qozjd archive link
  10. comment by Istia at Random Thursday; archive link, October 1, 2015
  11. other venues as well?
  12. Saved email from Zinelist, dated May 17, 2006. Accessed January 10, 2009.
  13. Source: Zinelist, link to the Fan History Wiki page, now offline
  14. Morgan Dawn's personal notes, accessed October 6, 2014, included with permission.
  15. Paley Loitering
  16. Random Thursday, post by Istia, October 1, 2015; reference link
  17. Zine Review by Kathryn A on Lysator dated January 8, 1993.
  18. alexfandra's 1994 post to the Virgule-L mailing list, quoted with permission.
  19. September 2, 1994, Michelle Christian, Virgule-L, quoted with permission
  20. [MS], February 14, 1998, from CI5 Mailing List, quoted with permission
  21. a 2005 comment at Crack Van
  22. by TaVeryMate at Cowley/- fic, Kate McLean, Larton and of course - the weather., posted February 2006
  23. 2008 comments at byslantedlight’s journal, Archived version, see that page for more discussion about Jane of Australia's writing
  24. 2008 comments at byslantedlight’s journal, Archived version, see that page for more discussion about Jane of Australia's writing
  25. 2008 comments at byslantedlight’s journal, Archived version, see that page for more discussion about Jane of Australia's writing
  26. 2008 comments at byslantedlight’s journal, Archived version, see that page for more discussion about Jane of Australia's writing
  27. 2008 comments at byslantedlight’s journal, Archived version, see that page for more discussion about Jane of Australia's writing
  28. 2008 comments at byslantedlight’s journal, Archived version, see that page for more discussion about Jane of Australia's writing
  29. 2008 comments at byslantedlight’s journal, Archived version, see that page for more discussion about Jane of Australia's writing
  30. 2008 comments at byslantedlight’s journal, Archived version, see that page for more discussion about Jane of Australia's writing
  31. MS' post to the Pros-Lit mailing list dated Sept 11, 2011, quoted with permission.