|Alternative name(s):||Symbrock, Veddie|
|Gender category:||Non-binary, Interspecies|
|Fandom:||Venom, Marvel Comics|
|Canonical?:|| Canonical in comics, |
Debatable in films
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Half of Venom fandom: “What if you had a sentient doggie who loved you and could talk?”
The other half of Venom fandom: “What if your id could eat your enemies and fuck your brains out?”
Eddie/Venom is the dominant ship in the Venom (film) and Venom (comics) fandoms, based on works on Ao3. In fanworks it is sometimes categorized as M/M, but sometimes not due to interpretation of the symbiote as non-male.
The 2019 Venom comics run was controversial. Venom was revealed to be manipulating Eddie, leading to a falling out between the two. Many fans saw this as a retconning of their previous relationship. The comics provided a canon Symbrock relationship, and many comics fans were Symbrock shippers who considered the two to be in a canonical relationship. So there was much discourse within the fandom during the run.
The fandom reacted strongly when the writer responded to criticism by disavowing the Symbrock relationship, calling it toxic. Further tweets and comments by the writer were seen as been disrespectful towards Symbrock shippers, and some fans responded angrily. The writers comments led some in the Comicsgate movement to think he was a supporter of theirs, but Cates was quick to deny any support for the group.
Common Tropes & Storylines
A post by Tumblr user Marvel-is-a-bisexual-disaster, Why Tumblr loves Venom uses a venn diagram to illustrate how Symbrock encompasses Angst, Smut, Fluff and crack to become a ship that has something for everyone. Many of the tropes referenced in this post are also common in Symbrock works; including:
Other common tropes and story lines include:
- Negotiation, specifically in relation to sharing a body, and issues of consent.
- Brunch on Laguna by menocchio, Dan had thought the Brock Report was great and that Eddie Brock was the coolest man in San Francisco. He still, painfully, kind of thinks this.
- intra-personal negotiation by Wildehack (tyleet), How fucked is that, that a compromise that ended with eating raw shark liver under the Golden Gate Bridge in the dead of night is probably the most interpersonally mature he’s ever been?
Archives & Fannish Links
- originally posted by petymology on Tumblr, Oct 2018.
- A recap of the Donald Crates diskhorse by deluxetrashqueen
- Donny Cates comes out against Comicsgate over Venom Argument article on bleedingcool.com. Contains sample tweets of exchanges.