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Title: Full Circle
Publisher: Nut Hatch Press, Nuthatch Collective, The Nut Hatch
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Date(s): 1992-1998
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Full Circle is a slash multifandom anthology published in Australia.

"Textual Disclaimer"

From the first issue:

TEXTUAL DISCLAIMER: stories in Nut Hatch zines are written by non-English, non-American fans. Though every reasonable effort has been made to ensure accuracy, readers (especially British readers!) must allow for an error factor in the fine details, which derives from the authors' foreign location. If this error factor will spoil your enjoyment of these stories, please read no further!

"That Old Plea to Readers"

From the first issue:

THAT OLD PLEA TO READERS: for the umpteenth time we beg you not to duplicate this zine for the circuit. Also, if you discover someone doing this, gently suggest to them that they stop, because The Nut Hatch will get stuck with $1000's worth of unsold copies, and go broke all over again! If you would like to bulk-order for your group, circuit or con, please write to us, we would be delighted to give details in full!

Issue 1

Full Circle 1 was published in 1992 and contains 148 pages. It has a single illo by Baravan, as well as several full-page publicity photos from featured television shows.

The flyer calls it "the 'amnesia' issue." [1]

cover of issue #1
another version of #1's cover
flyer for issue #1
from issue #1, the single illo by Baravan, for the first poem, "Captive," the "Bodie/Doyle fantasy" -- this is from The Hunting Universe

From the editorial:

We called the zine, FULL CIRCLE, and with good reason! Most of us who are now inolved [sic] with Nut Hatch started out in other fandoms, scattered far and wide. We kept up an interest in these other fandoms, even though we gave our hearts to B/D along time ago. But this zine, our first Media Zine (though purists will be calling it more of a B/D zine, since it turns out that half the stories have something to do with B/D!) marks areal full circle. We get the chance here, for the first time, to look back on such fandoms as UFO, K/S, and Dirk/Erik, Arthur/Kai, and of course, The Man From Uncle! Many more stories were available than would fit in this issue, even with the compressed type. We had Alias Smith and Jones, Battlestar Galactica and lots of Bodie and Doyle! So —

What about another issue? I hear you asking. Well... first, we had to wait and see how this one sells. The good news is that the pre-orders are handsome. If it just sells at a reasonable pace from here through to con season next year, it'll be a resounding success. So, a second issue? Give me a reason why not!

Contributors have been writing to ask if they can submit, and yes please! Does anyone write Heyes/Curry stories? We would also love to see Starbuck/Apollo.

[...]

This time around, we have a gorgeous selection, with something for almost everyone. B/D appears in five out of the ten stories (to be expected of a Nut Hatch zine, I guess). We also have sequels to a couple of tales which appeared in Fantzine [sic] #4. I want to thank all the people involved with this issue for doing a superb job.

And take a look at the print quality! Yes, Virginia, there is a Hewlett Packard laser installed at Nut Hatch now -at last! Nice? (Two entities called Jarrat and Stone are to be directly thanked for providing the laser. You know who they are! And they 'fly again' in 1993).

  • Captive, poem by Jane (Pros) (5)
  • In the Mood by Kathy Keegan ("It began as a bet between Bodie and Murphy, that Murph could seduce Ray Doyle. But Ray gets the truth from Murphy one way and another, and what follows might have been revenge but, in the tangled-web fashion, goes its own sweet way. Strange how romance begins.") (Pros) (6)
  • Downtown Saturday Night by Felicity Granger (Man From Uncle) (reprinted in Reclassified Affairs #2) (21)
  • Codes of Honour by Jane (sequel to a story in Fantazine #4) (B/D/Highlander) (Baedann/Derai, Arthur of the Britons) (33)
  • Anvil of the Gods by Madelaine Ingram ("Trapped in the savage past of the planet Chamric, Kirk and Spock trick their way around the hazards of this time and this place, staying alive by the skin of their teeth. Kirk takes the part of a 'Ronin', a soldier of fortune; Spock plays the role of an outland magician with the power to turn lead into gold. The problem is, can they keep out of trouble long enough for Scotty and McCoy to bring them out of Chamric's notorious, untamed past?") (Star Trek) (43)
  • Birds of Ill Omen by Kathy Keegan (Bodie and Doyle wake up in the same bed after a wild party. Their hangovers are boundless and they don't recall a thing of the previous night. That's bad enough, but what really wreaks havoc is that this morning, Penny and Samantha remember being proposed to last night! All at once the lads are engaged to be married ... and they don't remember a thing. Help!) (Pros) (69)
  • Won't You Come Home, Dirk Blackpool? by Felicity Granger ("All Camarand is in a flap, particularly Vector. Dirk left days ago for a clandestine romp with a witch called Wanda, and never returned. Wanda says he never arrived, but Erik saw bandits in the hills that day. Now, Dirk is missing and what has Camarand (and Vector) worried is, Dirk seems to have amnesia, and he still has the Monocle, which is lethal in the hands of a novice. Erik must convince Dirk to return before all hell breaks loose in Camarand!") (Wizards & Warriors) (77)
  • Kindred by Barbara Jones (sequel to a poem in Fantazine #4) (Highlander/Pros) (85)
  • Dead Ringer by Shawn Gedge (Highlander/Pros) (93)
  • Memories Are Made of This by Felicity Granger ("A film production is giving Ed Straker and Paul Foster hell. The lead actor is pursuing Ed, lusting furiously for him, and Paul heads the star off by doing the jealous lover routine. Trouble is, rumours breed like rabbits, and this one could compromise SHADO's security." (UFO) (100)
  • Heron in the Mist by Jane ("Why do Guy and Robert de Reinault despise each other so? What became of Robin's body, said lo be unrecognisable after he was killed? And what of the Sorcerer, Simon de Belleme, who is alive once more? Forces are gathering; Hern is not the only one aware of them. For years Nasir was the property of the Sorcerer. Freedom came at the hands of the Hooded Man, but now the Baron Belleme is once more astir. Nasir feels himself called by the old Persian enchantment which bound him to Simon for so long. All he can do is flee before the power becomes irresistible. But Herne's is a stronger call: the time of the Hooded Man is once again near, and the young Norman wolfshead who for some time donned the mantle must concede to the one who went before...or Simon de Belleme will be powerful beyond imagination.") (sequel to a story in Fantazine #4) (Robin of Sherwood) (112)

Reactions and Reviews: Issue 1

See reactions and reviews for Codes of Honour.

See reactions and reviews for Birds of Ill Omen.

See reactions and reviews for In the Mood.

See reactions and reviews for Kindred.

See reactions and reviews for Dead Ringer.

[zine]: This zine contains two Pros stories, both by Kathy Keegan.

In the Mood is not really my cup of tea - the lads are too far out of character as I see them in the episodes for me to relate to them very well, and I can't help but read them in an Australian accent too!

Birds of Ill Omen I found slightly easier going, but again, not quite the lads as I know them. There is also a piece of "B/D fantasy" art by Baravan, which was unfortunately not in the copy of the zine that I saw.

Otherwise, "Full Circle" is made up of stories from eight or nine other fandoms, none of which I have read, however, as I'm strictly mono-fandom! As far as I know, the Professionals stories at least aren't officially available outside this zine, so what the zine is worth to you may all depend on how big a Kathy Keegan fan you are! [2]

[zine]: I've acquired a few Nut Hatch zines now, and this is very much in what I am coming to think of as the house style: smallish print, set in double columns, with a lot of words to a page. A rough word count gave me about a word count of 1000 words per page, which matches other Nut Hatch zines - I remember coming up with a similar total for Czardas. This is much, much higher than many other publishers. Gryphon comes close (round about 800-900) but I think 400-500 is not uncommon, and I've seen some which are closer to 250. Nut Hatch zines pack a lot of story into their pages. The proofreading is not perfect (male 'brunettes', best guess at spelling of names in the non-Pros stories - Princess 'Ann', 'Hern' the Hunter, etc - and the occasional missing or wrong word) but it's generally fine.

There's the Nut Hatch's usual half-page editorial-cum-news column of recent events at the Nut Hatch, a response to comments about a previous zine, Goblin - I conclude from the tenor of the response that people complained because it wasn't slash - and a list of what's coming out shortly, which is lots and lots. I can never get over the prolific output involved here.

The artwork is almost all black and white copies of publicity shots. The exception is a picture by Baravan, which is Bodie as portrayed in The Hunting (which I still have not read). This picture goes together with a poem by Jane. This poem is apparently Bodie/Doyle, but I didn't realise it on my first skim. Although 'skim' has something to do with that. There are references to emerald eyes in there, though, so that'll be Doyle.

The non-Pros stories cover Man From UNCLE, Arthur of the Britons, Star Trek, Wizards and Warriors, Highlander, Lethal Weapon, UFO and Robin of Sherwood, and are by a range of authors. Just to be clear here, I am well aware that some of these names are widely thought to be the same person, but for simplicity I'm just going to stick to the name on the title page.

Pros stories first:

In The Mood, by Kathy Keegan. 16 pages. Doyle is startled when Murphy makes a pass at him, but takes him up on it. Afterwards, Murphy confesses the reason for the pass: he and Bodie had been speculating about Doyle. Doyle decides to teach Bodie a lesson by pushing him and then telling him where to get off. But they end up talking instead. There are some terrifically long monologues about feelings in here - at one stage Doyle talks solidly for an entire page (so about a thousand words) - and some authorial insistence that 'this is how it is for men' which, well, um. But there is brief Doyle/Murphy as well as Bodie/Doyle, and I liked that.

Birds of Ill Omen, by Kathy Keegan. 8 pages. Bodie and Doyle wake up with terrific hangovers. Emerging to greet their girlfriends, they are appalled to realise that they each apparently proposed that night, and the girls accepted. Much angst ensues. This one isn't my thing. Part of this is because I find both the basic premise and what they do to solve it unrealistic. Yes, I know I was quite happy to accept Murphy and Bodie laying bets about Doyle. I am not terribly consistent, no.

Codes of Honour, by Jane. Crossover with Arthur of the Britons. 10 pages. Arthur of the Britons was a British series in the seventies which was set in the Dark Ages rather than the usual fantasy version of twelfth century. Long hair, horses, mud-wrestling in the first episode, someone tied up against a big rock with not much on later in the series, you can see the attraction. This story is billed as a follow-up to East Wind Blowing, a Jane story in Fantazine 4 which I had not read when I read this one. I didn't need to. I did need to pay attention, though, to follow the goings-on. Arthur must mediate between feuding factions, most of whom are canon characters in Arthur of the Britons. The Professionals link appears in the form of Baedann and Derai (known as 'Rai'...), two warriors from 'the north'. They don't have a lot to do in this; it's much more an AotB story. I asked for a second opinion from an AotB fan: trepkos enjoyed it, and may be along later to comment.

Kindred, by Barbara Jones. Crossover with Highlander (the film). 8 pages. Apparently a sequel to 'A Kind of Magic', also to be found in Fantazine 4, and also unread by me. I have at least seen Highlander, and this takes place during the events of the film. Bodie and Doyle must guard Connor MacLeod when the Kurgan is spotted in London. They already know about Connor and other Immortals, presumably from the previous story. Quite liked the Highlander aspects to this one: things like Connor's comments about fighting through the centuries and how the Kurgan might think. Didn't really need to be told the names of half the actors in the play they go to see. 'Kindred' worried me as a title because I kept expecting a World of Darkness tie-in (ie, vampires, and I am not keen on vampires in my Pros), but it's not about that: it's about the kinship between warriors. Although these are warriors who curl up on the bed to share a box of chocolate and cuddle.

Dead Ringer, by Shawn Gedge. Crossover with Lethal Weapon. 7 pages. I haven't seen this film either! And so I would not have known the crossover if the zine hadn't said. I'd just have assumed it was an OMC called Riggs. It's told from Riggs's point of view. He is undercover in a gay nightclub, hoping to find and pick up a heroin dealer. Bodie and Doyle are also there, observing and acting as back-up, but this is very much a Riggs story. Ends with Riggs thinking happily back to the threesome of the previous night.

The rest:

Downtown Saturday Night, by Felicity Granger. Man From UNCLE, 12 pages. Thrush have kidnapped a female impersonator from a gay nightclub, replacing him with a woman to put people off the trail. Napoleon and Illya must find the trail, and fit in some sex along the way. This is a Christmas story, appropriately enough. How in character it is, I can't judge. I found the commentary on men watching a woman pretend to be a man pretending to be a woman a bit laboured. There were so many references to how Napoleon and Illya had got together on a beach that I found myself wondering if this story was a sequel to another.

Anvil of the Gods, by Madelaine Ingram. Star Trek. 26 pages. Kirk/Spock. Investigating a now-deserted planet, Kirk and Spock enter a transporter which takes them back to a time when it was populated. As Scotty, Uhura and McCoy try to understand the transporter to get Kirk and Spock back, Kirk and Spock have to fend for themselves until they can return. There is a lot about how exactly they do this - slivers of bone for needles, a convenient bush of berries which numbs flesh for, um, aftercare, and how they make plates. All goes well until the inhabitants arrive, one of whom has his eye on Kirk. I like Star Trek as a show, but have read practically no fic for it... I have heard... things... about Vulcan anatomy and was quite disappointed that this story does not elaborate. Ahem. Instead the part in question was 'strangely human' and I still don't know what it is about Vulcans that's special! (Don't tell me, I am having much fun speculating.) More seriously, this story postulates a very romantic and passionate relationship, but where that fits in the spectrum of K/S, I don't know.

Won't You Come Home, Dirk Blackpool? by Felicity Granger. Wizards and Warriors. 8 pages. Oh. This show again. This is Erik Greystone/Dirk Blackpool. They are normally deadly enemies, despite childhood friendship. Dirk suffers a blow to the head and amnesia, and forgets they are supposed to be enemies. Guess what they do? I didn't really get the point of this the first time I read it. The second time, I had discovered from the internet that Wizards and Warriors was supposed to be a comedy which lampooned fantasy stereotypes. Which made a little more sense of it. But only a little. Sorry. I think we have to conclude that I have no sense of humour :(

Memories Are Made Of This, by Felicity Granger. UFO. 12 pages. Paul Foster/Ed Straker. I don't think I've read any UFO before, and I haven't seen it. From this, I gather that Foster and Straker work for something called SHADO and the work involves a moonbase and something called Skydiver which may be a submarine. They watch for UFOs. A trouble-maker puts it around that Foster and Straker are lovers. Which they are, so they fear for their jobs as more and more people in the building hear the story...

Heron In The Mist, by Jane. Robin of Sherwood. 37 pages. Robin/Nasir. Aha. I like Robin of Sherwood. I loved it, in fact, and wrote to the programme as an angsty teenager, and still have the photos and publicity blurb they sent me. So I was actually a bit worried about reading fanfic based on it. In the event, I enjoyed this story a lot. Jane clearly enjoys writing dark age and medieval fantasy. I really don't get it for Pros, but even I enjoyed one of her historical Pros AUs, the Flesh and Steel trilogy. And I enjoyed this story a lot too. There's lots of references to the episodes - which I am clearly going to have to re-watch, because I had forgotten a lot of it. Some of the characterisation is, um, not as I see them, but I can see that it's how Jane might see them. This actually includes the slash: as a 14-year-old solitary fan, I couldn't believe what I was seeing between the Sheriff and Gisbourne - it was my head canon long before Philip Mark came along and confirmed it for me- but I really don't see the same between any of the outlaws. Although I am always happy to read it :) The only thing I didn't care for was her handling of Much: a bit too close to Doyle in Gentle On My Mind, but this is obviously a Jane thing, because there's a touch of this in the newly-revived Robin as his mind re-develops too.

Oh! Plot! Set after series 3, Belleme is back, and hopes to achieve mastery over Albion (the country, not the sword). Herne is in the process of reviving Robin (of Loxley), and Nasir confesses his love for him. Marion needs to be kept safely away from Belleme and therefore from Robin, Robert and the outlaws too, so she's mostly not in it, or being escorted away. Meanwhile, back at the castle, the Sheriff and Guy are uneasily working together, but also conscious that the relationship that used to exist between them has now shattered. There's a battle against Belleme and his minions and their evil powers which I wish the programme had had the budget for - very visually striking. The meaning of the title is explained right at the very end. This is a superstition I have never heard of, but who cares, I enjoyed it.

Which was a good way to end the zine. What else can I tell you? I think all the stories have at least one fairly lengthy sex scene in them. Not always Bodie/Doyle, mind you. There are almost no illustrations - well, not in the sense of original artwork. Just the one illo opposite the poem. But every story has an illustration in the form of a press photo or a scene from the programme and several have two. This is why my page counts differ from elsewhere. I have not included the picture pages in the count.

So overall? If you're solely a Pros fan, hmm. The Pros-only stories are a very small part of the zine. I think your reaction will depend on how much you enjoy Kathy Keegan's stories generally. And two of the Pros crossovers focus on the other fandom. Only the Highlander one is anything approaching equal time - if either show is favoured, it's Pros - and that's got supernatural stuff in it.

If you like other fandoms as well, there's more in here of interest to you. There were a couple that didn't do a lot for me, but I did like the Robin of Sherwood one, and I and my Arthur of the Britons friend liked the Arthur of the Britons one. I found myself enjoying the plot element of the Trek one more than the slash element, oddly, but I think that's because I'm not familiar with how Kirk and Spock are characterised generally. [3]

Issue 1.5

cover of issue #1.5

Full Circle 1.5 was published in 1993 and contains 73 pages (five stories). Its subtitle is, "All the Professionals stories from the Mediazine."

From the editorial in Sword of Damocles:

FULL CIRCLE #1.5 ... pardon? Well, in fact this is a 'courtesy issue.' Many people wrote to tell us they were not going to order FC because it was a media zine, and they had no interest in about a hundred pages of its running length. They also complained that they didn't take too kindly to missing out on the B/D stories because they couldn't/wouldn't buy the whole zine. That bothered us, so what we've done is to lift the B/D stories out of FC, reformat them all and present a new issue, at about 75pp — only the B/D stories! When we publish Full Circle #2, we'll also do a FC #2.5, as a courtesy to those of you who have no interest in the media content.

  • In the Mood by Kathy Keegan (It began as a bet between Bodie and Murphy, that Murph could seduce Ray Doyle. But Ray gets the truth from Murphy one way and another, and what follows might have been revenge but, in the tangled-web fashion, goes its own sweet way. Strange how romance begins.) (4)
  • Dead Ringer by Shawn Gedge (Lethal Weapon/Pros) (25)
  • Birds of Ill Omen by Kathy Keegan (Bodie and Doyle wake up in the same bed after a wild party. Their hangovers are boundless and they don't recall a thing of the previous night. That's bad enough, but what really wreaks havoc is that this morning, Penny and Samantha remember being proposed to last night! All at once the lads are engaged to be married ... and they don't remember a thing. Help!) (35)
  • Kindred by Barbara Jones (Highlander/Pros) (47)
  • Code of Honour by Jane (59)

Reactions and Reviews: Issue 1.5

See reactions and reviews for Codes of Honour.

See reactions and reviews for Birds of Ill Omen.

See reactions and reviews for In the Mood.

See reactions and reviews for Kindred.

See reactions and reviews for Dead Ringer.

Issue 2

Full Circle 2 was published in May 1994 and contains 158 pages.

The flyer is here.

  • Right End of the Wrong Rainbow by Maggie Logan ("Avon stumbles on a clone of Blake who can fulfill the fantasies that the Alpha has been having about their 'fearless leader'" -- "Avon meets a Blake who is not ... quite ... the Blake he knows. It's the other, the clone, who ran away to space, and he's a LOT more, uh, fun. Together, they make plans for the future!") (Blake's 7)
  • Pandora's Toybox by Shawn Gedge ("Martin Riggs hooks up with Bodie and Doyle in order to nail an elusive drug kingpin - the trouble is he is a man who enjoys bondage games and in order to get the information that can bring him down one of the trio must play his sex slave, be completely believable and survive til morning!" -- "Martin Riggs finds himself back in London to work with CI5's Bodie and Doyle again. Once more, his expertise is vital, though it leads him and the CI5 agents into some serious misadventures.") (Lethal Weapon/The Professionals)
  • Brass Tacks by Felicity Granger ("Macgyver and Jack Dalton have attempted to retire from the firing line. They're living in the England Mac knows and loves, from the Road to Doomsday movie. In this "Mac and Jack" piece, they buy a house ... a haunted house ... with a big (and loud) difference!") (14 pages) (MacGyver)
  • Than-Q by Karen Mercer and Maggie Logan (Star Trek: TNG) (a Picard/Riker story facilitated by Q, "When Jean-Luc makes the unsettling discovery that his night of passion with the eternal pest, Q, was not a dream, it is only the tip of the iceberg. It seems that another officer on board recalls die same dream/visitation, and when Picard and Riker quietly admit this to each other the real reason for Q's visit becomes clear." -- "Q pays a visit to both Jean-Lic Picard and Will Riker, and their lives will never be the same again. Not that they're complaining!")
  • For Personal Reasons by Madelaine Ingram ("Cowley sends Bodie after his partner when Doyle resigned from the department. 3/7 finds himself in the midst of a scenario he never imagined ... a Yuletide story to bring out again at mid-winter!") (The Professionals)
  • Red Cools Green, Beast Beats Fire by Wally ("Spock's personal biological nemesis reoccurs, and while Jim Kirk can manage, afterwards he finds there's more to this experience than 'simple' biology.") (Star Trek: TOS)
  • Blood and Iron by Barb Jones ("Connor McLeod is back in England, this time to buy a home in the wilds of Scotland. Bodie and Doyle are invited to visit, and they eagerly travel north ... so, uninvited, does the Kurgan.") "(Highlander/The Professionals)
  • When the Blue Wave Rolls Nightly by Trish Darbyfield ("Bodie and Doyle enjoy a first-time encounter -- with a waterbed!") (The Professionals)
  • A Touch of the Sun by Felicity Granger ("Han and Luke write off a landspeeder in the hottest, nastiest desert on Tatooine. Their only hope for survival is Chewbacca, and they don't think they're going to make it home this time.") (Star Wars)
  • The Affair of the UNCLE Who Wasn't by Wally ("Solo and Kuryakin find themselves in an intimate relationship and just as Napoleon dares to wonder if they can make it permanent a shocking fact comes to light that could mean their relationship - from the beginning - has all been a cruel joke") (Man From Uncle)
  • A Fine Madness by Wally (UFO)
  • Things to Do On A Rainy Day by Abigail Weiss (Star Trek: TOS)
  • Healing by Maggie Logan (Blake's 7)
  • I'm Still In My Bath by Trish Darbyfeld
  • The Milk of Human Kindness by Trish Darbyfeld
  • poetry by Andie Vyland, Jess Malloy, Lainie Ingram, Jane

Reactions and Reviews: Issue 2

I thought I'd mention this one cause it's not a Christmas story, it's a Yule story. Doyle is a practising wiccan in this one. He's resigned from CI5 in the wake of a case in which a CI5 agent betrayed the dept. and sold them out to the IRA and PLA. Several agents were killed and although Doyle escaped a set up at his flat, most of his possessions were destroyed. He leaves and Bodie, at Cowley's orders, although he was planning on going anyway, follows him. Doyle is staying with friends, who are also wiccans, and Bodie finds out about his religous preferance. Doyle's kept it a secret because he's not sure how B will react. B tells him he's been all over the world and has seen all different forms of worship. Doyle explains about his beliefs and Bodie is interested (though not sure if he wants to become a believer himself) and the celebrate Yuletide with his friends. Oh yeah, almost forgot, they admit their feelings for each other (I almost take that as a given ;> ).

I found it a very charming story. [4]

Issue 2.5

cover of issue #2.5

Full Circle 2.5 was published in 1994 and contains 75 pages. It has all Pros content. Its subtitle is, "All the Professionals stories from the Mediazine." It contains the Pros stories from issue #2 and was advertised as "All the B/D stories cut out of issue #2 into a 'Courtesy Special,' for those collectors who don't want the whole media zine. "

From the editorial, which starts out with some personal information and troubles:

The good news is that the disks for Encore #2 have arrived! Kathy is done, finished, and the stories are a pure delight. The zine is scheduled (tentatively) for September, and it's just a funding challenge, which translates into time (ie., the square root of patience). Also by the end of the year, we'll be doing Bound To Please, and I'll be distributing Operation Assesai. And yes, I'm collecting material for CMH #12 and Fantazine #6.

For anyone interested in ST:TNG gen zines, we did manage to get The Sunbeam Strike into print. Thanks to Terri and her husband for funding the project, and to Barb, Angie and Pam for printing it. Editing and binding fell to my hands, and was a pleasure.

To answer a recently most-asked question: yes, you're right, prices are rising everywhere, and the US dollar is falling. But no, we won't be increasing the price of the zines for the foreseeable future. We have a lot of back issues piled up, printed eons ago and selling slowly, and we're happy to use these to subsidise, or offset, the current price rises. So, unless postage rises steeply, we can hold the price of Nut Hatch issues till 1995 at least.

This issue, we have something for everyone, from romance to adventure, situation comedy to action, and an easy-to-swallow (trust me on this) touch of bondage from Shawnie, who's (in)famous for it. A big thank you to all the contributors. Girls, you came through with flying colours. Remember, I'd like to do another issue!

And that really is all from me this time! Many thanks to those people who have wished me well in this 'time of trouble' I kid you not, it's been rough), and once again, my most sincere apologies for the current s-1-o-w-n-e-s-s of Nut Hatch. As I keep saying just now, I'm dancing as fast as I can! Please remember, there used to be five people to handle the Press, and now as fast as I can! Please remember, there used to be five people to handle the Press, and now there's just me and Barb, with (very) occasional help from Angle and Pam. Hopefully, things might improve in future!

Very best wishes to all Nut Hatch readers, JJ.

  • For Personal Reasons by Madelaine Ingram (4)
  • When the Blue Wave Rolls Nightly by Trish Darbyfeld (24)
  • Haiku: Velvet and Steel by Andrea Vyland (32)
  • Pandora's Toybox by Shawn Gedge (33)
  • Haiku: After the Storm by Andrea Vyland (49)
  • I'm Still In My Bath by Trish Darbyfeld (50)
  • The Milk of Human Kindness by Trish Darbyfeld (53)
  • Blood and Iron by Barbara Jones Pros/Highlander crossover (55)

Issue 3

front cover of issue #3
flyer for issue #3, printed in Fantazine #6

Full Circle 3 was published in 1995 and has 173 pages.

The flyer is here.

The zine includes the usual long-winded "editorial waffle":

Before I say another word ...I know, this issue is late! In fact, it's about six weeks late! Two reasons for this. First, I've been ill on and off since Christmas (three viruses in five weeks, one of which was chicken pox!), and second, take a look at the size of this issue. If you want to take stock, there's more than 200,000 words crammed into this zine. In fact, it's two zines for the price of one, and this is genuine dollar-value. This is great for your wallet, but on the negative side, this much material took a lot of processing. Even just the task of editing, formatting and proofing the stories that were sent in on disk was a considerable task; and then, there was a lot of actual typing involved. So, yes, Tm late, but you literally have FC #3 and in your hands at the same time, for the price of one zine.

And, three reasons I decided to do this. First, necessity. I asked everyone everywhere for stories for this issue, expecting to get the usual amount of fiction. In fact, I got an enormous stack of submissions! There was enough to fill over 400pp in the usual format. Even though I've compressed the type, squished the line-height, narrowed the margins. I still couldn't cram in all the stories I received! This means I have a flying start on FC #4. I still need more for that one, hint, hint.

The second reason I chose to squeeze the stories in with a crowbar here is to give the readers some real dollar-value. Nut Hatch zines are the most expensive on the market, I know. This may get worse soon, because I've had warning that pap>er prices are to rocket. We’ll have to make the zines skinnier, which means even less value for your dollar ... so this time, what about a massive zine in a small space? Lastly, I didn't want to make the contributors wait a year to see their work in print!) I don't know how much I'll have to squeeze the size of the zine to keep in front of the price rises, but trust me: I'll do the best I can. Take a look at this issue —trust me!

[...]

Right at this moment, I am Nut Hatch! But I have prom¬ises of help from the girls 'shortly.' My single-handed efforts have also contributed to the lateness of this issue, but that's the way the cards fell. Wish me luck!)

  • Flashpoint by Jane ("A figure from the past, whom Starsky had believed dead, proves to be very much alive, and the nightmare for Dave Starsky has just begun. For Hutch, the ordeal wears three faces: he must watch his partner torn apart by decade-old events that took place in Vietnam, he must launch an investigation into the mystery of a man called Bonelli, in the hopes of bringing Starsky back from the edge; and he must confront his own feelings toward his partner. A whole short-novel from this popular writer.") (reprinted as a stand-alone zine) (Starsky and Hutch) (4)
  • Boundaries by Dee ("Not-so-random happenings awaken Ray Doyle to just how his partner feels about him, and the lid is off. It's wonderful ... until it goes wrong. Misunderstanding and discord threaten to split the partners, perhaps forever. It's one of those times when the patience for which Bodie isn't often celebrated, but should be, is a key to survival!") (Pros) (46)
  • Haiku #1 by Andrea Vyland (fandom unclear) (66)
  • Blood on the Streets by Rimfire ("A vicious serial killer is targeting cops, and as fast as Jake and Derek think they have the answer, it slips through their fingers again. The blood is literally all over the streets, fear is running high, and the payoff is hair-raising.") (Jake and the Fatman) (67)
  • Last Leap by Wally (The author commented in the zine: "I know that the ending of this story differs from that in the series. Just put it down to a different timeline.") ("Finally, finally, they get it right and Sam makes his last leap, back into his own body ... and the space-time he will inherit for the rest of his life. Things are not the way they were, but only Al knows. However, things are just — terrific!") (Quantum Leap) (89)
  • Haiku #2 by Andrea Vyland (fandom unclear) (93)
  • 6.2 Has Two by Rimfire (Pros) (94)
  • The Sound of Silence by Felicity Granger (From the zine: "This piece directly follows Brass Tacks, which appeared in Full Circle #2. Please note that the episode. The Stringer, has never been shown in Aus; in fact, the Mac'n’Jack stories spring off Fountain of Youth...! Call them a/u if you prefer.") ("Still living in England after leaving the Phoenix Foundation, MacGyver and Jack are enjoying the good life ... until Mac takes a job, figuring out the puzzle of a boat that should have been carrying explosives and isn't. And out of this job comes one of Mac's greatest challenges: he must learn how to cope with deafness. For Jack, through whose eyes these stories are told, it's a time of trauma - 'til that flight to Spain...") (MacGyver) (99)
  • What Does He Mean to Me?, poem by Harmony (fandom unclear) (115)
  • A Q Before Breakfast by Karen Mercer and Maggie Logan ("A sequel of sorts to the episode, Tapestry, this story also builds on an idea mooted in a previous story, Than-Q. With his power to 'play' with temporospatial events, Q could indeed bend linear time, show Picard the galaxy in a microsecond, and have him back in time for breakfast! But would he? Why? And what if he did? This is a delightful, fascinating and thought provoking story, and an unexpected romance!") (Star Trek TNG) (116)
  • Haiku #3 by Andrea Vyland (fandom unclear) (132)
  • Future Imperfect by Jane ("The year is 2025, and Richie Ryan, now around fifty years of age and still the late-teens cherub, is in big trouble. But it remains for Duncan to work out what is going on and, as always, fix things! Someone from the past is muddling their lives, and as memory flashes back thirty years, to 1995, Duncan and Richie realise what they are up against. It ain't pretty. And about about The Gathering?!") (Highlander) (133)
  • Summer Blue, poem by Harmony (fandom unclear) (160)
  • Winning The Pools by Dee (Pros) (161)
  • Companion by Wally (Star Trek TOS K/S) (164)
  • The Human Factor by Barbara Jones ("This story is part of the series that began with 'A Kind of Magic' ... Bodie and Doyle meet Connor MacLeod in the film universe of Highlander.") ("A new gun runner is at work in England, dealing in superior weapons, supplying warzones in Africa and South East Asia, and banking in Zurich. He's a gentleman, if you stretch a point: the Mercedes, the Belgravia penthouse, the emerald rings all fit the profile. Only one thing. He's seven feet tall, and he just might be head-hunting in London this season, as well as making a fortune in illegal arms. Where is Connor MacLeod when you need him? Bodie and Doyle wonder if they're biting off more than they can chew this time.") Highlander/Professionals crossover (165)

Issue 3.5

Full Circle 3.5 was published in February 1995 and contains the Pros material from issue #3.

front cover (photocopy) of issue #3.5

From the editorial:

...take a look at the size of the main issue (rather than this edited version). If you want to take stock, there's more than 200,000 words crammed into that zine. In fact, it's two zines for the price of one, and this is genuine dollar-value. This is great for your wallet, but on the negative side, this much material took a lot of processing. Even just the task of editing, formatting and proofing the stories that were sent in on disk was a considerable task; and then, there was a lot of actual typing involved. So, yes, I'm late, but readers ordering the full issue literally get PC #3 and #4 at the same time, for the price of one.

And, three reasons I decided to do this. First, necessity. I asked everyone everywhere for stories for this issue, expecting to get the usual amount of fiction. In fact, I got an enormous stack of submissions! There was enough to fill over 4OOpp in the usual format. Even though I compressed the type, squished the line-height, narrowed the margins — I still couldn't cram in all the stories I received! This means I have a flying start on PC #4. The second reason I chose to squeeze the stories in with a crowbar here is to give the readers some real dollar-value. Nut Hatch zines are the most expensive on the market, I know. This may get worse soon, because I've had warning that paper prices are to rocket. We'll have to make the zines skinnier, which means even less value for your dollar ... so this time, what about a massive zine in a small space? Lastly, I didn't want to make the contributors wait a year to see their work in primt)

I don't know how much I'll have to squeeze the size of the zine to keep in front of the price rises, but trust me: I'll do the best I can. Take a look at this issue — trust me!

  • Boundaries by Dee (Not-so-random happenings awaken Ray Doyle to just how his partner feels about him, and the lid is off. It's wonderful ... until it goes wrong. Misunderstanding and discord threaten to split the partners, perhaps forever. It's one of those times when the patience for which Bodie isn't often celebrated, but should be, is a key to survival!) (4)
  • What Does He Mean to Me?, poem by Harmony
  • 6.2 Has Two by Rimfire (41)
  • Haikus: 1 by Andrea Vyland (48)
  • Winning the Pools by Dee (155)
  • Haikus: 2 & 3 by Andrea Vyland (53)
  • The Human Factor by Barbara Jones (Highlander/Pros, a new gun runner is at work in England, dealing in superior weapons, supplying warzones in Africa and South East Asia, and banking in Zurich. He's a gentleman, if you stretch a point: the Mercedes, the Belgravia penthouse, the emerald rings all fit the profile. Only one thing. He's seven feet tall, and he just might be head-hunting in London this season, as well as making a fortune in illegal arms. Where is Connor MacLeod when you need him? Bodie and Doyle wonder if they're biting off more than they can chew this time.) (54)

Issue 4

cover of issue #4

Full Circle 4 was published in 1996 and has 163 pages. It contains no interior art.

The flyer is here.

From the editorial:

Just a few words from me this time... because they're mostly explanations and excuses anyway! This is the first time I've ever did a zine that was about six months late. The reasons for that lateness are mostly down to luck. Ask Dame Fortune why, oh why, I chose this of all years to float a small business with my brother? Nut Hatch was on a bit of a roll, and in my complacency, I thought, what the heck, it's like paying for itself these days (and I wince as I say this) took my life savings and invested almost the lot in the new business... And Nut Hatch promptly decided to lobotomize itself. We took a big, big loss at MediaWest. No one is to blame, but we sent about 80 zines, mostly copies of a gen media zine, and they just did not sell well. I'd depended on those sales to print the new zine (this one), and the fund didn't materialize. With all of my own money invested, I had nothing to fall back on, save for sales of existing shelf stock! And that was the moment where zine sales decided to hit an all-time low.

It gets worse! In a shrewd (?) attempt to get printing costs down, I 'bought in' with Karen, a part-share in a copier. It was supposed to enable me to lower our cover prices, and so help to boost sales. The reality was it broke down every 5000 copies, and with paper, toner and repair bills, the copy cost was up to about 13 cents per page!... The next issues are going to be later again, because of the very, very slow rate at which zines sell these days. Yes, yes, I'll continue to do the zines, but if I'm to fund them, first my little business has to stop being a money pit, and get into profit. Either, that, or folks out there have to start buying zines again, which given the current bite of the economy is a tall order.

  • Flareup by Jane ("Ann Holly is back in town, and she's in big, big trouble. Who else shall she turn to for help but Ray Doyle? And just when Bodie and Doyle thought life can't get any tougher, it does.") (Pros) (6)
  • Reflections in a Mirror by Wally (Star Trek: The Original Series) (26)
  • Me and Thee by Cat (Starsky has a lover named Dirk. Hutch catches them together, and nearly rapes Starsky in a fit of jealously.) (reprinted in Firesigns and Other Stories) (Starsky and Hutch) (32)
  • The Locutus Legacy by Maggie Logan ("All in the garden is not rosy for Jean-Luc after his Bog encounter, and parts of Locutus are still inside him. How lucky it is that Q is on hand when he is desperately needed, since Beverley has already warned Picard and the others, there is no more any surgeon could do.") (Picard/Q) (Star Trek: The Next Generation) (38)
  • Due South of the Border, limerick by K. Anon (Due South) (52)
  • Trouble in Paradise by Rimfire & Wally ("Jake and Derek are captives, and will be lucky to make it through this rough encounter alive. But even if they get home alive there are personal problems, deep and seemingly beyond reconciliation. Will Jake really leave?") (Jake and the Fatman) (53)
  • Sweet on Benny, limerick by K. Anon (Due South) (69)
  • Hard Wired by Felicity Granger (Earth 2) (70)
  • No Rules to This Game by Felicity Granger (Highlander) (78)
  • Catch of the Day by AMW ("An old friend asks Starsky and Hutch to check into what seems to be the classic ripoff: an elderly woman appears to be being cheated of her fortune by a gifted clairvoyant, and her grandchildren are worried. Or do they just want to get their hands on her money? And is the clairvoyant gifted after all, or merely a very, very clever fraud? " - Hutch takes a fishhook out of Starsky's head during a fishing trip.) (reprinted in Firesigns and Other Stories) (Starsky and Hutch) (107)
  • A Road Less Travelled by Wally (Star Trek) (108)
  • The Blake's 7 Affair by Airelle (Blake's 7/Man from Uncle) (115)
  • Cameras Do It All The Time by Barbara Jones (MacGyver) (117)
  • Chicago Melody, limerick by K. Anon (Due South) (124)
  • Firesigns by Jane ("An old friend asks Starsky and Hutch to check into what seems to be the classic ripoff: an elderly woman appears to be being cheated of her fortune by a gifted clairvoyant, and her grandchildren are worried. Or do they just want to get their hands on her money? And is the clairvoyant gifted after all, or merely a very, very clever fraud?") (Starsky and Hutch) (post-Sweet Revenge, established relationship, case story) (reprinted in Firesigns and Other Stories) (Starsky & Hutch) (125)

Issue 5

cover of issue #5

Full Circle 5 was published in 1997 and is 159 pages long.

The flyer is here.

  • Heaven and Hell by Jane ("When nightclub owner Vin Rossi makes a deal with the Chicago PD to keep himself out of prison, he gives evidence against a modern day Chicago mobster, a drug lord named Tonio Rinaldi – evidence that should put the man behind bars for life. But when the Police make the mistake of arresting Rinaldi, they touch off a small, brief but furious gangland war on the streets of Chicago ... and in any such confrontation innocent bystanders easily become casualties. It is on this of all days that Francesca Vecchio chooses to take a night ‘on the tiles,’ and she is headed for a club on the Southside called Gatsby’s. Vincenzo Rossi’s club ... just about to be hit in retribution by Rinaldi’s gunmen. The first Ray Vecchio knows of this is a phonecall, telling him his sister is in Memorial Hospital with a head wound; she is in coma, and Ray’s Italian blood swiftly boils. He and Rossi and Rinaldi ran the same streets when they were children, but Ray became a cop while the others chose to work outside the law. Now, since justice is about to let him down one more time, Ray is determined to pursue an older and much more Italian tradition: Vendetta. Nothing Benton Fraser can say will deter him, so Fraser accompanies him, and the two find themselves in a life and death situation ... a scene that, this time, only Fraser will walk away from. Now, it’s Ray fighting for his life in the same hospital where his sister lies in coma; and when dawn comes, it is Ben Fraser who is about to take the law into his own hands, and bend the rules till they break. A fiery, desperate confrontation on an Illinois farm ... a fierce explosion that might be the end of Fraser’s whole career ... while Ray and Francesca Vecchio struggle just to survive, and Ben Fraser believes he has lost everything. For him, there is no way back, no way out. But just when you think all is lost and the night can’t get any darker, sometimes blind chance plays its part too, and ... Full of drama, humor, pathos, excitement, keen characterization and some hot, spicy bits!") Reprinted as a stand-alone zine called Heaven and Hell. (Due South) (78 pages)
  • Hostage by AMW ("The title tells all. Halfway through the evening paper, Hutch answers the phone to find Dobey calling him to a hostage situation. But the hostage is Starsky ... and the hostage-taker calling the shots? Does the name 'Diana' ring any bells? It should.") (Starsky and Hutch) (5 pages) (reprinted in Firesigns and Other Stories)
  • Learning Experience by AMW ("A short, nice and very much 'in character' vidnette from a writer who knows these characters so well. Starsky and Hutch have retired from the street, and Hutch has a gaggle of students who are faaaar from unaware of the Starsky charms. Like the story says, "Sorry, ladies, he's all mine.") (Starsky and Hutch) (4 pages) (reprinted in Firesigns and Other Stories)
  • A Walk On The Wild Side by Rimfire ("Mac is on vacation in Europe, and blunders headlong, and innocently into the wind-dark world of "Forever Knight." Here is a huge story, rich with detail and characterisation, and if you've a liking for both shows, you won't believe how well they dovetail! As the story quite rightly says, "the blood of an eight hundred year old vampire is a very heady brew." Macgyver discovered, there's more than one way to get inebriated...") (MacGyver/Forever Knight) (36 pages)
  • Passages by Felicity Granger aka Jane of Australia ("Here is a story that begins on the city streets and ends in the Aleutian Islands! It's after the movie, and Connor and Brenda have been in Scotland. A shock phonecall comes in ... there's been a terrible car accident, Brenda has been killed. Connor's body was not recovered, and he has vanished. He should have been killed, but wasn't, and when Rachel phones for Duncan's help that call is the prelude to an episode in their lives that will, quite literally, change the future. Possibly for the world.") (Highlander) (30 pages) (This is a link to a PG-13 version of this story, with the name of the author as "Jane." Author's notes at the bottom: "© Jane, 1994,this revision © 1999 The original version of this story was adult and slash, and appeared in FULL CIRCLE #4 [sic]. This gen, PG-15 version was done for friends and family, and appears here by permission.")

Issue 6

Full Circle 6 was published in 1998.

  • The Interview by Toshua (Starsky and Hutch)
  • Jealous by Toshua (Starsky and Hutch)
  • other unknown content:

B/D Outtakes

Full Circle B/D Outtakes is sometimes known as Full Circle Collected. It was published in 1995 and contains 280 pages of Pros fiction from other "Full Circle" anthologies.

The flyer is here.

  • In the Mood by Kathy Keegan. ("It began as a bet between Bodie and Murphy, that Murph could seduce Ray Doyle. But Ray gets the truth from Murphy one way and another, and what follows might have been revenge but, in the tangled-web fashion, goes its own sweet way. Strange how romance begins.")
  • Birds of Ill Omen by Kathy Keegan. ("Bodie and Doyle wake up in the same bed after a wild party. Their hangovers are boundless and they don't recall a thing of the previous night. That's bad enough, but what really wreaks havoc is that this morning, Penny and Samantha remember being proposed to last night! All at once the lads are engaged to be married ... and they don't remember a thing. Help!")
  • Pandora's Toybox by Shawn Gedge - crossover with Lethal Weapon ("Martin Riggs finds himself back in London to work with CI5's Bodie and Doyle again. Once more, his expertise is vital, though it leads him and the CI5 agents into some serious misadventures.")
  • For Personal Reasons by Madelaine Ingram. ("Cowley sends Bodie after his partner when Doyle resigned from the department. 3/7 finds himself in the midst of a scenario he never imagined ... a Yuletide story to bring out again at mid-winter!")
  • Blood and Iron by Barbara Jones - crossover with Highlander (movie). ("Connor McLeod is back in England, this time to buy a home in the wilds of Scotland. Bodie and Doyle are invited to visit, and they eagerly travel north ... so, uninvited, does the Kurgan.")
  • When the Blue Wave Rolls Nightly by Trish Darbyfeld. ("Bodie and Doyle enjoy a first-time encounter -- with a waterbed!")
  • Boundaries by Dee. ("Not-so-random happenings awaken Ray Doyle to just how his partner feels about him, and the lid is off. It's wonderful ... until it goes wrong. Misunderstanding and discord threaten to split the partners, perhaps forever. It's one of those times when the patience for which Bodie isn't often celebrated, but should be, is a key to survival!")
  • The Human Factor by Barbara Jones - crossover with Highlander (movie). ("A new gun runner is at work in England, dealing in superior weapons, supplying warzones in Africa and SE Asia, and banking in Zurich. He's a gentleman, if you stretch a point: the Mercedes, the Belgravia penthouse, the emerald rings all fit the profile. Only one thing. He's seven feet tall, and he just might be head-hunting in London this season, as well as making a fortune in illegal arms. Where is Connor MacLeod when you need him? Bodie and Doyle wonder if they're biting off more than they can chew this time. They're about to take on the Kurgan -- alone.")
  • Flareup by Jane (published in Full Circle 4). ("Ann Holly is back in town, and she's in big, big trouble. Who else shall she turn to for help but Ray Doyle? And just when Bodie and Doyle thought life can't get any tougher, it does.")

Reactions and Reviews: B/D Outakes

See reactions and reviews for Birds of Ill Omen.

See reactions and reviews for In the Mood.

Full Circle B/D Collected

This zine does not appear to have on official title. It was published in 1996 or 1997 and contains 240 pages. Its content is that of the Pros material from "Full Circle" #1.5, #2.5, #3.5 and of #4. These stories and poems are lifted straight from their original zines, editorials and all, and printed in order. This means the pagination is wonky.

cover of last collected issue
  • In the Mood by Kathy Keegan (It began as a bet between Bodie and Murphy, that Murph could seduce Ray Doyle. But Ray gets the truth from Murphy one way and another, and what follows might have been revenge but, in the tangled-web fashion, goes its own sweet way. Strange how romance begins.)
  • Dead Ringer by Shawn Gedge (Lethal Weapon/Pros)
  • Birds of Ill Omen by Kathy Keegan (Bodie and Doyle wake up in the same bed after a wild party. Their hangovers are boundless and they don't recall a thing of the previous night. That's bad enough, but what really wreaks havoc is that this morning, Penny and Samantha remember being proposed to last night! All at once the lads are engaged to be married ... and they don't remember a thing. Help!)
  • Kindred by Barbara Jones (Highlander/Pros)
  • Code of Honour by Jane
  • For Personal Reasons by Madelaine Ingram
  • When the Blue Wave Rolls Nightly by Trish Darbyfeld
  • Haiku: Velvet and Steel by Andrea Vyland
  • Pandora's Toybox by Shawn Gedge
  • Haiku: After the Storm by Andrea Vyland
  • I'm Still In My Bath by Trish Darbyfeld
  • The Milk of Human Kindness by Trish Darbyfeld
  • Blood and Iron by Barbara Jones Pros/Highlander crossover
  • Boundaries by Dee (Not-so-random happenings awaken Ray Doyle to just how his partner feels about him, and the lid is off. It's wonderful ... until it goes wrong. Misunderstanding and discord threaten to split the partners, perhaps forever. It's one of those times when the patience for which Bodie isn't often celebrated, but should be, is a key to survival!)
  • What Does He Mean to Me?, poem by Harmony
  • 6.2 Has Two by Rimfire
  • Haiku: 1 by Andrea Vyland
  • Winning the Pools by Dee
  • Haikus: 2 & 3 by Andrea Vyland
  • The Human Factor by Barbara Jones (Highlander/Pros, a new gun runner is at work in England, dealing in superior weapons, supplying warzones in Africa and South East Asia, and banking in Zurich. He's a gentleman, if you stretch a point: the Mercedes, the Belgravia penthouse, the emerald rings all fit the profile. Only one thing. He's seven feet tall, and he just might be head-hunting in London this season, as well as making a fortune in illegal arms. Where is Connor MacLeod when you need him? Bodie and Doyle wonder if they're biting off more than they can chew this time.)
  • Flareup by Jane (Ann Holly is back in town, and she's in big, big trouble. Who else shall she turn to for help but Ray Doyle? And just when Bodie and Doyle thought life can't get any tougher, it does.)

Reactions and Reviews: Collected

See reactions and reviews for Birds of Ill Omen.

See reactions and reviews for In the Mood.

See reactions and reviews for Kindred.

See reactions and reviews for Dead Ringer.

See reactions and reviews for Codes of Honour.

Proposed Highlander Outtakes

The editorial in Firesigns and Other Stories mentioned that a Highlander Full Circle Outtakes zine was planned. This zine was never published.

References

  1. ^ flyer
  2. ^ Full Circle review by byslantedlight, October 2007
  3. ^ by moonlightmead on December 31, 2013 at Discovered in a Livejournal
  4. ^ from CI5 Digest, quoted anonymously (Nov 29, 1996)