Talk:Domestic
Defining This Page
Are Domestic AUs any different from curtainfic? I'd always heard the phrases as synonyms. -Shannon (talk) 01:52, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
- I wasn't sure what this article was about either, not being familiar with any of the example fandoms! If it's just the same as curtainfic, why the AU? I wondered whether it might be related to Mundane AU, where the characters are stripped of their special powers? Espresso Addict (talk) 02:04, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not familiar with most of the examples, either. I guess this is what happens when AUs start to overlap! It looks like some of them like the SPN fic might be categorized as Mundane AU because the supernatural elements have been removed, but Superfamily is more curtainfic as it's not technically outside the canon 'verse? I'm wondering if Domestic AU and Curtainfic could be consolidated, and then point towards Mundane AU? -Shannon (talk) 02:27, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
- Not being wildly familiar with either term, my two cents is worth about 2¢. However, one can surely write fluffy domestic fic (which is what I take "curtainfic" to mean) without it being an AU. Certainly, in Renault fandom, there's a fair amount of minor fic that dwells on happy-ever-aftering but has nary an alternative universe anywhere in sight. Or, to speak more generally, there would be nothing explicitly AU about a spy story whose focus is on unpacking in hotel rooms and finding you've forgotten the toothpaste instead of shooting villains while dangling one-armed from a window ledge on the eightieth floor of a Dubai skyscraper.
- So is there any "domestic AU" fic discussed here that actually has an AU, other than that SPN mundane example? --Greer Watson (talk) 04:25, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
- Not familiar at all with the term curtainfic and nothing links to domestic which is why I created this page, since I often see it in the 100 and Avengers/MCU fandoms... if you want to combine the pages, I don't mind, but maybe a broader term instead of curtainfic, maybe just domestic? Basically what I find in most domestic/domestic au fics are stories where two characters are already established relationship and are getting married/having kids/etc. but often still retaining what makes the fandom different, such as Bellarke of The 100 coming together to be parents either of the fallen or of their own kids as they are leading the fallen. I actually don't remember why I added the Bandom/Supernatural fanworks..., I don't read those fandoms (at least not wincest for SPN) and I don't know why I would add them. I named it "domestic au", simply because I thought it was okay for now since on Tumblr that is what it is mainly named as and that was how I discovered it on AO3, and figured it could/would be changed later.--Harpie (talk) 07:55, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
- Curtainfic is a glossary term - one with quite a bit of fannish history attached - and as such should have its own page. If there is a glossary term with a similar meaning, it could have its own page with both pages linking to each other. I suggest making "Domestic AU" about actual AUs with links to both Mundane AU and Curtainfic. --Doro (talk) 11:11, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
- Move it to 'domestic', perhaps? It sounds as if there is usage of the term 'domestic/domesticfic/domestic AU' for works old school fans would refer to as 'curtainfic', and most of the works Harpie is thinking of are not AUs. Espresso Addict (talk) 16:06, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
- This makes sense to me. If there are fandoms where "curtainfic" is not used (and I have only encountered it here on Fanlore), then certainly Domestic would be more generally comprehensible—especially if it is, in fact, the current usage in some newer fandoms. --Greer Watson (talk) 21:28, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
Number of Examples Wanted
As per the discussion here, under Subpages (and other various Talk Page conversations) I am trying to scatter some of my fandom's fanworks into other relevant pages so as to not have a list that grew too lengthy (and therefore unreadable.) But as we have quite a few works in many tropes, I worry that I'll make too long of a list, within those genre/trope pages. At any particular number of works, should I be creating a page specifically for IT Domestic fics? If so, we do not have a unique name for these types of fic within our fandom (that I know of) so how should that page be created? Thank you! - I will be coming back to finish annotating the rest of the IT/Stranger Things fics, and of course add more fanworks, period. Unless directed to move them to another page. Just have to get some rest for the night! It may take me a while to complete them, but I'll start annotating all new fics automatically, so it shouldn't look terribly disjointed going forward, if anyone is concerned. Jacksbrak (talk) 12:20, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
Annotated Fanworks
Does anyone else find the usage of annotated fanworks in the examples listed here to be confusing? It took me a few scrolls to realize that the fandoms themselves are tiny bullet points above the much larger, and hightlighted, annotated fanwork parts. I feel like if the examples here are going to be all with the annotated fanworks template, the fandoms should be headers rather than bullet points, to make them stand out more clearly and not become so confusing to the eye. Or if not headers, perhaps take the annotated fanworks template out of the page and put everything as normal bullet points/lists, like they were on the page originally? Patchlamb (talk) 19:08, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
Edit: Oh, with another scroll I realized that the annotated fanwork section is actually all for one fandom, and the bullet points are all different ships for that fandom, not fandoms themselves. That in mind, I still dislike the immense prevalence of the annotated fanwork template here as it was so confusing that I hadn't even realized it was just under the IT section. It also breaks the mold here, where the fandoms above IT are done with simple bullets while IT isn't. And, beyond that, I don't believe one fandom should be taking up the majority of this one page as examples. There are over 30 examples just for IT, but this is a trope page, not a page for IT. There should be a wider variety of examples for other fandoms. Patchlamb (talk) 19:14, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- I am not a fan of the annotated fanwork template in general, except in certain circumstances. I do think are way too many examples from the IT fandom on this page, probably best to pick a few of the best known examples and cut the rest -- Kingstoken (talk) 20:01, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- I reduced the IT fanfics from over 30 to 3, and since the annotated fanworks template wasn't consistent with the rest of the page and is rather unpopular, went ahead and changed them to bullets to match the page. I think that'll make it much more readable and consistent, and gives much more room for other examples. It did remove a lot of content though since the page had been about 85% IT fanfics, if anyone thinks I removed too much or thinks we should add back the annotated fanworks template let me know. Patchlamb (talk) 00:21, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
- I took a good look at this page last week and wondered what is to be done because I felt that the amount of IT fanworks was just too much. It made the page look like a primer for a specific corner of the IT fandom. Three examples are enough and I think you chose well.
- The annotated fanworks template is difficult because it looks so very dominant. I have to admit I'm not a huge fan of the template so perhaps I shouldn't join the discussion. On the other hand, I like your editing choices, so thank you very much! --SecurityBreach (talk) 12:45, 21 July 2021 (UTC)