Talk:Covid-19 and Fandom
Fanwork Examples?
It seems like a good idea to start adding some example fanworks to this page, but I'm debating whether to go about it by adding them as examples under the fanwork trends section, or creating a new section. Thoughts? I know it can get a bit unwieldy/endless once you start adding examples for such a wide pan-fandom page, but it also seems odd not to have any. --enchantedsleeper (talk) 13:17, 01 May 2020 (UTC)
- I'm in favour of a new section, because I expect a lot of other trends and a lot of fics. But as of right now, I think they could be added to the fanfic trends section and we could split them off later. --Auntags (talk) 14:26, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
On a related note, pixiv has ~6 pages on art tagged for masks (see here), most of it anime style girls in facemasks. There’s probably some fan work examples in here, but I know nothing about anime/manga. If anyone with a better knowledge base wants to take a peak? — Error cascade (talk) 17:04, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
Title
I'm going to change the page title to COVID-19 and Fandom if no one objects. —caes (talk) 20:58, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not opposed to the move, but I'm wondering why a redirect wouldn't be sufficient? There is already one redirect, Coronavirus and Fandom, and we're going to have more! Looking at the Ao3 tags, fans are using a lot of different variations, with different capitalization and spacing. As someone who lives in a part of the world that isn't capitalizing Covid, I find the capitalization a bit... anxiety inducing. But I'm happy to go with the majority decision. --Auntags (talk) 14:19, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
"Increase in Fanfiction" expand section to other fanac?
In particular, a lot of fandoms experienced a "renaissance" or explosive growth in 2020, to the point that fans have a name for the phenomenon (e.g. Marauderstok, ATLA Renaissance). I don't know if anyone has explicitly tied covid-19 causally to these resurgences, but since it happened at the same time it seems fair enough to cover on this page? -- Quaelegit (talk) 00:18, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- That's pure speculation at this point, what Wikipedia would dismiss out of hand as "original research". If you don't have a source for it, it's pure guesswork on your part. (And by the way, we saw no such boom in traditional SF fandom.) --Orangemike (talk) 00:58, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- Luckily we are not on Wikipedia and the parameters of this Wiki do not govern Fanlore, as there are sources, diverse, we just need to do a little research as you can see from the comment below that provided information about the case. The quarantine caused several people to engage in fandoms, we cannot use the "no change in SF" or "On Wikipedia we do not accept this" metric as a basis to deny this. We should be more respectful of the opinions presented based on Fanlore's policy and forget a little about what happens on other wikis -- Ellakbhesse (talk) 23:02, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- User:Quaelegit, I had these saved that might be interesting for the ATLA resurgence discussion: The resurgence of Avatar isn’t just nostalgia, it’s nourishment for the soul, 'The Last Airbender' in the Time of Covid-19, Why Avatar: The Last Airbender was the Quarantine Show We Needed (note, this one is not a https link). (For anyone reading in the future, I put some links on Talk:Marauderstok that might have interest, too)-- Cookies and chaos (talk) 09:47, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! For the "what were fans saying about it" (b/c "ATLA renaissance" is not a term i made up, it was in common use at the time) -- I'll try to find and post some fan quotes over on the ATLA page. Copy these links over too. Tumblr Fandometrics' Year in Review 2020 had a lot to say about ATLa -- This post specifically about the fandom, three ATLA ships made it on the top 100 ship list for the first time Korrasami received a bump in the rankings but was alredy on the list). Over on AO3, the fandom more than doubled in size in 2020 (from 10k works at the start of the year to 22k works at the end). I'll copy these over to the ATLA talk page too.
- Tumblr fandometrics also has a post about The Twilight Renaissance of 2020 -- I haven't personally run into that but it's another thing to research! (I've already added a note on the Twilight talk page)
- User:Orangemike --that's nice, but as Ellakbhesse said Fanlore is not wikipedia, and we cover many things besides "traditional SF fandom". I realize I haven't proven a connection, that's why I was asking on the talk page instead of contributing to the main article. There is a ton of evidence of increased fanac due to the pandemic, I'm going to bundle what I have so far into another post. -- Quaelegit (talk) 05:49, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Some links on increase in online fanac in response to the COVID-19 pandemic:
- A chart showing AO's weekly page views 2012-2020, Archived version with a visible spike beginning in March 2020. [archive.org doesn't catpure the image, try this mirror instead]
- fandom on tumblr's post about COVID-19, Archived version -- not quantitative but some
- Tumblr post by filmnoirsbian about "what piece of media defined 2020", Archived version gathered 8000 reblogs, perhaps a qualitative look at what people considered their "pandemic fandom"
- YouTube is social media’s big winner during the pandemic, Archived version CNBC news article about growth in Youtube usage among American adults during the pandemic. Which, this probably wasn't all fanac but some of it sure was. I'll see if I can find more specific links about that
- Twitch and Facebook Gaming exploded during the pandemic — and they’re even bigger a year later, Archived version -- two other platforms that saw increase in usage during the pandemic. I know some people have a more restrictive mental category of fanac than me but I would definitely consider twitch streaming a type of video game fanac; especially as the article discusses growth of reddit communities that fans joined to discuss the streams.
I'd like to gather more personal accounts like that filmnoirsbian post. maybe htis one. Idk i'll keep looking later, saving links for now. -- Quaelegit (talk) 07:17, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
Maybe this another? olderthannetfic - fandom and covid-19 -- Ellakbhesse (talk) 20:14, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
I do not know anything about Formula 1 fandom, but this article, The Hottest Sport of the Pandemic Is Finally Good Again, Archived version, suggests there might have been some kind of uptick in the Formula 1 fandom? I don't know if that translated to the transformative side of fandom as well, but maybe another topic someone more knowledgeable about the fandom could give insight into? Cookies and chaos (talk) 13:02, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
other impacts
- There's both a general belief among fans and some statistics to support the contention that Larry Stylinson tinhatting increased due to the pandemic. See /r/LarryStylinson and File:1d slash popularity per year.png.
- AO3 was blocked in China during the pandemic lockdown there, and there was a sudden increase in Chinese fic posting in January/February. Blocking_of_AO3_in_China
--aethel (talk) 16:30, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
Updating the In Defense of Fandom podcast episodes and there's one on the impact of Covid-19 on the Supernatural finale that I'll leave here for future editors: Covid's effect on the Supernatural finale Cookies and chaos (talk) 13:57, 16 October 2024 (UTC)