Talk:Archive of Our Own

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interface languages

I think the phrasing " The archive's interface is planned to be translated into languages other than English in order to make it accessible to an international userbase. " is really weird because the international (non-US? I assume) userbase is English speaking to a large part and already accessing the AO3 en masse? I would say something like 'more accessible' instead. -- Caput mortuum Revision as of 12:39, 9 April 2013

whois info

Hi, I've taken out the whois info, because it contained personal contact information that I don't think should be on the wiki.--Mary Crawford 17:49, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Except that (a) the whois information is publicly accessible to anyone with an internet connection, and (b) no fan identity and real identity were connected. I would have, frankly, preferred to link to a whois look up, but AFAIK, it's not possible to describe a URI for a particular record. I added back that a whois lookup was performed, since the way you edited it left that completely reference-less. --zvi 18:32, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Stub

Is this still a stub? --Doro 21:45, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Probably not Cesy 21:53, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
I agree and took off the sticker. (stub to me means clearly incomplete, not simply "short".) --lian 00:07, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

link to fun statistics

elz has a post with some AO3 statistics as of November 2011: http://elz.dreamwidth.org/51557.html

This AO3 Admin Post tag is dedicated to cool site stats: http://archiveofourown.org/admin_posts?tag=62 --FishieMishie 18:47, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Fun statistics are fun: overall AO3 breakdowns, popular fandoms, popular ships. All of this is AO3 specific info (and how AO3 works makes it possible to have such info), but it's also indicative of broader recent activity, so I'm not sure how much of this would go here and how much elsewhere (and if elsewhere, where?). The first post, at least, would probably be relevant information for this page, but I'm not sure about the other two. Sungabraverday (talk) 10:29, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

I agree these would be good to add! Toasty has a large number of posts in her series, and there are many other folks on Tumblr doing AO3 stats. One of the issues is that apparently they're not sure if it's okay to repost those as more stable links at AO3, because of the issues surrounding meta right now. I can try to collect a bunch of links to individual people's stats tags here, but there's a good chance those tags/blogs could move or change in the next few months, as Tumblrs often do. We may want a separate page for these, and to ask permission to replicate charts, graphs, methods, and results, in case of movement/deletion. -the old briar pipe (talk) 15:41, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Well, Toasty has the toastystats blog, and that might be a more consistent link than people's individual stat tags, assuming the majority of it is reblogged there. Plus individual posts often tend to be focused on individual fandoms or categories of fics and might fit better on those pages. (I've put in the info on Alpha/Beta/Omega on that page, for instance.) But a seperate fanlore page for stats analyses would be a good idea. I don't know what we'd call that, or how we'd categorise that, though. Sungabraverday (talk) 05:07, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
I do hope it's stable! That blog seems like it's probably going to stay for a while, but there are folks not getting reblogged there because the posts have to be seen by one person in order to be reblogged. There are also several sets of stats that don't really belong to a particular fandom, like stats about femslash representation on AO3 (an issue for AO3 specifically, not femslash as a whole, since AO3 is not all of fandom). Plus there's no harm in cross-linking, to my mind. More ways to find info = awesome!
So, how would you like to go about this? Collect the links here and then plan where to put each set? Make a separate page for AO3 stats and collect the links on the talk page there? Something else? -the old briar pipe (talk) 05:42, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
More places to find info is definitely better! I think maybe a page for Fandom Stats (because some of toasty's stats include tumblr and FF.net and so AO3 stats would be too specific to include them) and we can branch out from there as necessary/as makes sense? I'm at a bit of a loss for how we'd categorise it, but that seems the best option to me, at least starting off. Sungabraverday (talk) 07:00, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
Sounds great! Looking at the templates, I think Template:Activity probably makes the most sense, since this isn't a single meta essay. If you'd like to set up the basic page, we could collect links on the talk page, and also maybe encourage other fans to bring data posts/links they know of? At this point I'm not even sure what structure makes sense, but we might want to differentiate between fans analyzing data about fans and non-fans doing so, plus the different origins/types of data (for example, I've seen data about LJ and Fanlore and a large number of more fandom-specific sites floating around). There are also already articles/essays on stats that have pages here, so we'll want to link those as well. (Mecurtin's two essays are linked, I saw.) We should also link to Fanlore's pages about its own stats.
...I'm just realizing how huge a project this could be. But a lot of fun! -the old briar pipe (talk) 07:22, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
Okay, I've started it up at Fandom Stats, and tracked down the links that I could find fairly quickly. Sungabraverday (talk) 08:35, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

OTW committees

I've added a paragraph about the various committees involved in AO3 - so many! I'd like to start creating individual pages for them (their history, what they do, role in greater fandom etc) but want to check about the best title format. Which makes the most sense - putting them as subpages of OTW as they are subsets of the org, ie Organization_for_Transformative_Works/Abuse, or top-level pages like OTW Abuse or Abuse Committee or Abuse (OTW)? Most pages will need either some kind of title disambiguation or subject clarification at the top of the page. Thoughts? -- Tai 01:51, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

I didn't respond before because I am torn, but I do like the idea of using subpages in this case, in part because I have no idea what categories to give these pages. We can always move the pages later. Don't let this stop anyone from starting pages!--æþel 00:46, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
Okay, thanks Aethel :) I might start making subpages and as you said we can always move them. It's probably clearest to use their official title, so Organization_for_Transformative_Works/Abuse Committee and then create redirects/disambigs. --Tai 02:33, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

History of AO3 Link Dump

Add links here that can later be added to the main page about the history of Ao3.--MeeDee (talk) 22:19, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

stated motivation

I'm not sure it fits into the flow of the existing page, but here's a quote from an early otw_news post stating the motivation for AO3/OTW:

The fanarchive non-profit organization, and the archive itself, were proposed as a response to the fanlib controversy, but the need for a large multi-fandom site that would be created and controlled by fans themselves has been recognized throughout this discussion as an overarching issue beyond that one site. Summary of the original discussion: otw_news, Archived version

countries where AO3 is blocked?

Currently the censorship section here and on wikipedia mentions only two cases. Are there any other countries where AO3 is or was blocked?--aethel (talk) 23:22, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

memes

Here's a meme if someone wants: https://www.tumblr.com/freetunamayo/718069841515429888 -JadedPrism (talk) 18:39, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

website instability and DDOS attack

The AO3 crashed today due to instability problems, behold, friends inform me about a tweet that addresses issues that the site may be suffering a DDOS attack -- Ellakbhesse (talk) 23:45, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

https://flightfoot.tumblr.com/post/722517257581953025/is-this-the-longest-outage-ao3-has-experienced-in I actually dk the answer to this / https://fiercynn.tumblr.com/post/722517811360120832/yo-so-here-are-some-things-the-ddos-attack-on-ao3 another post that brings up the OTW racism stuffs but is still about the DDoS / for ppov on the article: https://pamprin.tumblr.com/post/722513741155024896/i-hope-ao3-is-down-forever-its-turned-yall-into & https://edwardshundredyearoldspunk.tumblr.com/post/722517268510162945/something-something-people-going-off-to-wattpad / if someone does make a page about it, here's some memes https://inlovewithsaturn.tumblr.com/post/722505405617553408 & https://inlovewithsaturn.tumblr.com/post/722505359808495616 & https://www.tumblr.com/uhblognamewoodone/722505226448519168/pulled-straight-from-rncd & https://www.tumblr.com/3-2-1-annihilation-station/722506524116795392/fanfictionnet-to-fanfic-readers-when-ao3-goes & https://www.tumblr.com/rabid-transcendentalist/722516754232901632 & https://www.tumblr.com/keiangels/722516623848882176/the-down-detector-comments-are-forming-a-fandom -JadedPrism (talk) 19:15, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

JadedPrism someone really should create a page about this incident. There were two days of instabilities due to the DDOS attack, hacking groups taking the blame, anti-mulism from some parties, discussions about ao3 abstinence and people saying about the dangers of attacks like this giving voice to people who are against the site (including political actions, I read about this briefly on Twitter). I'll leave some more links here later. May be useful in the future -- Ellakbhesse (talk) 20:21, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

I guess someone could use these stickers as a suggestion for the title: https://www.tumblr.com/jaytaku/722584661651570688/jaytaku-shop-redbubble -JadedPrism (talk) 22:07, 11 July 2023 (UTC) eta: https://www.tumblr.com/icloudrebel/722584265755344896/as-most-fanfic-readers-know-ao3-went-down-due-to -JadedPrism (talk) 22:10, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Followup: The page exists now, under the title 2023 OTW DDOS Attack. I'm going to copy over the links from your guys' comments onto the talk page there, I think some of these are incorporated into the page but not all of them. -- Quaelegit (talk) 09:00, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

"AO3 isn't social media" discussion(s)

There's already a linked Tumblr post on the Fanlore page that discusses this (in the "#Further_Reading.2FMeta/2022"" subsection), but I feel like I've been seeing an increase in complaints about this of late, mostly blaming TikTok users. Some examples:

thinking about that post of people assuming ao3 has an algorithm and also about how bonkers persistent the view is that ao3 is social media lite. like with startling regularity I get comments saying something along the lines of "it's probably weird to comment on a fic this old--" no it isn't!!!! this is an archive I am literally just assuming you searched for a selection of specific tags or sorted by kudos or looked back on my pseud or any other number of completely normal ways to use an archive site ?? kill the tiktok ghost in your brain and comment on old stuff it's NOT weird

jackwolfs

someone apologized for commenting late… 2 months after the fic was posted 😭😭 girl that’s EARLY thats fresh

spnyuri

Obviously the complaints about people misusing tags, assuming ao3 has "an algorithm" like social media, etc. are not new (I know OTFN or someone like that has a long post, from several years ago, litigating the "algorithm" misconceptions EDIT: here's one reblog chain of the 90k note post, I think there's a lot of other discussion chains and probably also other OTFN posts; second post) but wanted to save these for later, probably worth writing up this topic on its own section on the page. -- Quaelegit (talk) 09:09, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Racism, Zionism and AO3

I came across this publication today where they accuse those responsible for the site of being Zionists, against Palestine and asking them not to donate any more money to AO3. However, I don't know how and whether I should address such allegations on the page. Any tips on what to do? -- Ellakbhesse (talk) 12:47, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Hey, as this relates to fundraising and governance, it might be better suited to OTW or OTW Membership Drive. And, both of those articles discuss other controversies so maybe they'll also give you an idea of how to include this on a page. Or alternatively, if you don't feel comfortable adding it yourself, you can add the link to the talk page for someone else to pick up later. --Auntags (talk) 20:30, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
I'm more comfortable this way, I prefer not to edit anything on the subject, I just bring the information, okay? -- Ellakbhesse (talk) 23:12, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
The Zionism charge is due to a tweet that went viral in November 2023. It's documented on this page: Just got a second official warning (post by le-bjorn). I added a short section on this tumblr post to that page.--aethel (talk) 22:43, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

again people commenting that the site is Zionist, racist and that it supports pedophilia. Tumblr post seen today -- Ellakbhesse (talk) 20:24, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Timeline addition

I don't think the latest addition to the timeline section is on the same level of impactfulness as the other items (the DDOS attack is also missing). Instead I think this should be moved to a new Timeline of the Archive of Our Own page that can expand on what's in the timeline section here.--aethel (talk) 15:19, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

blocked in Indonesia/Malaysia?

I'm seeing some reports that AO3 might be blocked in Indonesia and Malaysia since June 13, but some people were saying they still had access or that the site became available again--I haven't found any official confirmation.

Tweets in Indonesian:

--aethel (talk) 23:23, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

AO3, use of this term?

I propose adding something about the use of the archive's nickname, "AO3." When it was first used, who popularized it, discussion about it... --Mrs. Potato Head 21:53, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

OTW committees revisited

I think we really need to look over that section again. Some edits have been made to try and bring it up to date. I deleted the Vidding committe, which hasn't been a thing for at least a decade, if not more. Content policy committee isn't a thing. Basically, it needs updating as purview and committe organization have changed. Zessa (talk) 17:31, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

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