Pro-shipper
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Synonyms: | anti-anti, pro-shipper, proshipper, proship |
See also: | anti-shipper, ship war, shipper |
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A pro-shipper or proshipper is a fan who opposes the anti-shipper movement in fandom.
"Proshipper" has also be shortened to proship and has been used as a noun referring to the person or as an adjective describing the person's opinion. A fan might say "I am proship" to indicate that they are a "pro-shipper" or that they oppose anti-shipper beliefs.
A common misconception is that pro-shipper is short for "problematic shipper"; some fans, especially anti-shippers, have used the term proship to refer to a type of ship and proshipper to refer to the fan who ships that proship.
Some social media users add the đ + đ emoji combo to their bios to indicate they are proship.[1]
History
Anti-Anti
The original term for fans who opposed anti-shippers was anti-anti, a shortening of anti-anti-shipper. The term may have arisen on Tumblr and/or Dreamwidth circa 2015-2016,[2] with people making blogs to track, expose, or otherwise comment on the behavior and beliefs of anti-shippers.
One of the earliest uses of "anti-anti" comes from a 2015 Dreamwidth fail_fandomanon post, calling them "anti-anti-shippers".[2] The post also shows that the term "anti-shipper" was being used at that time as well. By 2016, anti-anti-shipper had been shortened to anti-anti, possibly due to Tumblr blogs using "anti-anti" in their usernames, which was considerably shorter than anti-anti-shipper.
According to anons on fail_fandomanon from 2016, the anti-anti and anti-shipper movements were gaining noticeable traction on Tumblr. The discussion and use of anti-shipper and anti-anti on Dreamwidth may have also helped spread the usage of these terms to those who may not have heard it otherwise.[3] At this time, the term pro-shipper didn't seem to be used, at least in these discussions.
Pro-shipper
Over time, the term "pro-shipper" or "proshipper" became more common than anti-anti.
By 2017, pro-shipper was a term being used on Tumblr, as evident in surveys using the term. The prevalence of pro-shipper, as well as the larger spread of anti-anti and anti-shipper, may be in part due to an immense ship war on Tumblr during 2017.
During that year the Voltron: Legendary Defender fandom was in the midst of a ship war that was heavy on pro-shipper and anti-shipper terms and ideologies (see Voltron Controveries and Discourse Demographics Survey (Voltron)). 2017 was also the year that the Undertale needle hoax was started (see Hoaxes about Anti-Shipper Violence), which was not only spread through places like Tumblr and Twitter, but Reddit as well. The Voltron fandom itself also had a similar hoax, but the exact year that the hoax was started is unclear as information about it is more sparse than Undertale's anti-shipper hoax.
The pro in pro-shipper means for, to contrast with the anti in anti-shipper (anti meaning against). However, in some parts of fandom, the pro in pro-shipper has come to be understood as short for problematic instead.[4][5][6][7] In January 2023, Twitter user freetofic suggested that TikTok was the source of the false etymology.[8]
Due to this new definition, many fans (mainly on Twitter) started to insert proshippers in their DNI lists because they do not want any type of contact with problematic ships. These fans may also use the term "proship" as a noun to refer to the problematic ship that the proshipper allegedly supports.
Others have come to believe the word proshipper to be synonymous with pedophile.[9] They may have simply incorrectly osmosed the meaning due to so many antishippers accusing proshippers of being pedophiles, but claims that "proship" is a pedophile dog whistle may be disinformation spread deliberately.[10][11][12][13][14][15]
Some fans on twitter started referring to proshippers as "proshitters" in 2020, with many still using this terminology as of 2022.[16][17]
In February 2023, a Japanese fanartist, maromi_ika, posted the essay Must-know for Japanese fandom: the meaning of "proship" and the concept of "proshippers" in Western fandom, which was translated into English by Twitter user orangiah_[18]. The essay described the harassment they received for their work from "English speaking fandom" and instructed others to block accounts with "Proship DNI" in their bios. The post was shared by major Japanese artists, such as multi award winning geikomi artist Gengoroh Tagame and Yasuhiro Nightow, creator of Trigun.[19] It anecdotally resulted in Twitter users being blocked by Japanese creators they were following.
Definition Debates
Although the terminology evolved, the debates remained the same, including the debates over the meaning of the terms anti-anti and proshipper.
One type of discussion hinges on how broad the scope of these terms should be--whether it applies only to fans who actively engage in anti vs. pro-ship discourse, or whether it applies to all fans who disagree with anti-shipper views or agree with the principle ship and let ship.[20] Some fans have taken the position that they shouldn't have to adopt a special term for what they consider the default position in fandom. In 2019 Tumblr user Korrasera said, "there aren't anti-antis. There's just antis, who are authoritarians, and the people who disagree with them."[21]
Another debate is more contentious. Antis and proshippers have always had very different definitions of the terms; according to antis, proshippers are fans who "support abuse". For example, the 2019 Tumblr discussion Korrasera was responding to was a debate over what an "anti-anti" was. Korrasera argued that antis' supposed definition was itself the anti argument against the "anti-anti" position:
To be clear, saying, âAn âanti-antiâ is someone who believes that itâs ok to support toxic content, and use the excuse âfiction doesnât effect reality!!ââ is not a definition. Thatâs just a literal anti talking point that they use to describe anyone who doesnât agree with them.[21]
Various people have argued over the years that anti-shippers' definition of proship is self-serving and manipulative.[22][23][24][25][26]
On social media, proshippers have argued with antishippers many many times over antishippers' definition of "proshipper" and "proship". Proshippers have posted many PSAs about the correct definition of these terms, pointing out that "pro-" means "for" and is not short for "problematic".[27] No one ever seems to change their mind.[28][29][30] The distinction matters because the pro-shipper position is that they are advocating for shippers to be free to ship whichever characters they like without fear of harassment. This meaning is entirely different from the idea that proshippers are just the shippers themselves, shipping a "problematic" ship.
The subreddit r/AO3 has a bot that automatically replies to any post about proshippers or antishippers with the definitions of both terms in order to prevent confusion or arguments over the definitions.[31]
Pro-shipper Positions
A large number of people have identified as proship or proshippers, and they may not hold exactly the same beliefs. (For example, some self-identified proshippers are against RPF.) However, in general, proshippers believe that fans should not be harassed or threatened for their shipping preferences, exploring dark themes in fanworks does not reveal anything about a fan's morality or ethical beliefs, and that shipping fictional characters does not cause harm.
According to Tumblr user insomniac-ships in 2022,
Proship, at it's very core, is a combination of four general principles--
- Ship And Let Ship
- Your Kink Is Not My Kink And That's Okay
- Don't Like, Don't Read/Dead Dove: Do Not Eat
- The Golden Rule - Treat others the way you wish to be treated.[32]
As a Reddit user put it in 2023,
proshipping literally just means "ship and let ship". it's being anti-censorship. it's being anti-harassment. and it's understanding that fiction is not reality and that liking to read about something does not mean condoning it irl.[33]
A common catchphrase used in proshipper arguments is "fiction is not reality". Antishippers believe that depicting or "romanticizing" problematic or abusive relationships (including age gaps, rape or non-con, incest, and underage) in fanfiction or fanart can cause real-world harm; they think they are protecting children by harassing shippers who create fanworks (or who like other people's fanworks) that depict "problematic" relationships. Proshippers respond by arguing that harassment is never acceptable and that in addition the antis' justification for harassment is misinformed; fanworks cannot cause abuse in the real world.
Characterization of Antis
Self-identified pro-shippers, as well as other fannish observers, have described anti-shippers as being black-and-white thinkers[34], pro-censorship[35][36][37][38][39], and authoritarian[21][40]. Many fannish observers have made comparisons between anti-shippers and American Puritans or fundamentalist Protestant Christians. A very popular Tumblr post by queerpyracy started "baffling how much of this site is just conservative protestantism with a gay hat" and included the phrase "I Saw Goody Proctor With The Devil And She Had A Bad Steven Universe Headcanon"[41], which has been quoted and referenced many times in the years since. See also Purity Culture in Fandom.
freedom-of-fanfic has argued that TERFs/radfems influenced fandom antis[42] and that antis use alt-right tactics[43].
Harassment is Bad
Pro-shippers generally define anti-shippers as fans who think it's okay to harass people over their shipping preferences. A common pro-shipper position is that fans who personally dislike certain dark themes in fanworks or certain ship dynamics, but don't think it's ok to harass anyone who does like those fanworks, are not anti-shippers.[44]
Pro-shippers have frequently discussed antis' bad behavior, including harassment, doxxing, and death threats. Some have gathered evidence of specific instances. Samantha Aburime is an example of an acafan who has published research on antis and maintains an Antifan Archive.
When a fan of HLVRAI named Metrix-86 was discovered to have a secret Twitter where he drew shota and non-con of the characters, he ended up with two written callout posts and a video essay on YouTube outing his actions. As a result, his art on Tumblr (and likely his ask box) received negative attention. Then, another example is SethPup, a popular furry who also had a secret Twitter, where he drew his fursona having sex with feral puppies. He also had a callout post. While an anti-shipper would likely see merit in outing the actions of these artists (and may see the negative attention as deserved), a pro-shipper would see them as defendable and sympathetic, with the act of making callout posts deplorable.
While anti-shippers may see themselves as being helpful by making others aware of those who are problematic, a pro-shipper may argue that harassing those with problematic ships doesn't actually make less problematic ships or shippers. By this argument, while some people may become more aware of an artist's actions (by way of callout posts), in the end the result is simply someone being harassed with no further positive benefit. They may also argue that the fear of harassment can scare artists into not enjoying the themes they actually like, such as "darker themes" or "edgy" themes, which could possibly be related to cringe culture.
Though there are a number of popular anti-anti blogs who speak out against harassment for any reason, there are also anti-anti blogs that are, ironically, run only as receipt blogs and callout post blogs for anti-shippers.[45] For example, one anti-shipper named bendyhatespaedos made it their goal to dox pedophiles on Tumblr. At a time, this included doxxing minors as young as 12 for shipping children together, which bendyhatespaedos did not deny. Bendy's argument was that "pedophilia is pedophilia no matter how you stylize it," though they stated they no longer doxxed children. Anti-antis responded by harassing and making fun of bendyhatespaedos, told them to delete their blog, and said that they should utilize the authorities rather than take matters into their own hands.
Another example is of a 2020 occurrence between a 26 year old pro-shipper named MariAkutsu and a 13 year old anti-shipper named Kalmintz on Twitter. Mari had uploaded a NSFW fanfic of the children's cartoon Glitch Techs, and only indicated that it was a smutfic with the tag lemons, a phrase not many younger fandom members may know the meaning of. Kal ended up opening the fanfic and realizing it was NSFW too late. Being a minor and uncomfortable with an untagged smutfic that featured aged-up children close to her own age, she spoke out against it. The author, Mari, would then go on to make a 500 page long callout post for the 13 year old.[46] This may be one of the largest pro-shipping vs. anti-shipping issues to occur within the Glitch Techs fandom, and a good example of how even pro-shippers are not except from the behavior they usually abhor in anti-shippers.
Based on some of the back-and-forth from the "Anti Asshole Anti Archive" on Tumblr (since deleted), some members of both ideologies have been considered in poor taste and guilty of behavior considered to be harassment, despite both movements attempting to appear more "morally correct" than the other. For example, bendyhatespaedos was considered an "asshole anti" for doxxing a 12 year old. However, further up in the Asshole Anti Archive, the OP acknowledges that an anti-anti had begun posting explicit gore, maggots, and disturbing images on anti-shipper posts.
Other Comments from Pro-Shippers
Below are more comments and opinions by those who identify as an anti-anti/pro-shipper.
freedom-of-fanfic is an anti-harassment, anti-censorship blog focused on fandom spaces. It is focused on criticizing and deconstructing the current trend of using moral valuation as an excuse for intimidating fandom contributors into censoring themselves or leaving fandom.The major points that come up over and over:
95% of the posts on this blog are long-winded text walls.[47]
- everything is permissible in fiction, whether itâs in âgood tasteâ or not
- it is the responsibility of creators to tag and flag their content appropriately. it is the responsibility of consumers to blacklist and avoid content/content creators that will bother them or are not age-appropriate for them. (Caveat: current social media makes this difficult.)
- nuance is important. thereâs a balance between activism, awareness, and indulgence.
- word definitions matter.
- anti spaces (anti-shipper, anti-kink, anti-dark content) tend towards authoritarian thought patterns. they encourage black and white thinking, groupthink, isolation from all other points of view, and harassment of outsiders.
- anti spaces tend toward exclusionist thought patterns. They encourage policing of others, identity/experience erasure, and gatekeeping content/resources.
- harassment, death threats/suicide baiting, doxxing, assault, and slander/libel, whether directed at fanwork creators or people dedicated to tearing down fanwork creators, are never okay.
- everyone is a fully formed human being with good sides and bad sides, and there is always value in considering anotherâs point of view, even if you reject their conclusions as harmful and false. (this blog spends a lot of time analyzing the conscious motivations and internal logic of antis.)
itâs not endorsement, itâs not promotion, itâs not normalization, itâs not reflective of real life desires, and it never justifies harassment.harassing real people isnât media criticism[48]
shipping-isnt-morality
Other than simply being pro ship, I am anti-radfem, sex positive, pro-sex worker, and pro-kink (being a dom myself). I am very much against anyone who thinks they should control and police anyone's sexuality, especially women's.I primarily ship to cope, but I obviously support any and all shippers. I am left-Libertarian politically, aka solidly on the green square of the political compass. I'm against REGs, bigots, and authoritarians in general, which, coupled with my major, is why I got into discourse in the first place.
The Carrd of Antis-Delete-Your-Blogs-Pls[49]
Itâs so sad to see how many people are scared in fandom spaces.Scared to be open about what they like. I have spoken to so many people that enjoy darker topics and themes in art and fanfiction but they could never support/produce anything like that publicly because they are scared of the fandomâs reaction. And I also think that there are people out there that think that they are wrong for liking darker content.
Please just know that weâre here. Thereâs actually a lot of people enjoying darker content that is deemed as problematique. You are not alone, youâre not wrong for liking what you like, and Iâll keep saying this over and over again until people donât have to feel afraid anymore.[50]
tired-and-salty, 2019
idk who needs to hear this right now but fictional characters are playthings and you can do whatever you want with themjacobbyships[51]
Surveys
A 2017 Voltron survey called the Discourse Demographics Survey (Voltron) gathered a total of 1,998 responses as of Mar 2021. It surveyed anti-shippers, pro-shippers, and neutrals, in regards to both Voltron specific shipping and anti/pro ideologies as a whole. Some respondents in the survey blamed a ship war within the Voltron fandom for the resulting amount of anti/pro discourse among the fans.
In 2018, who-gives-a-ship conducted a Pro Shipping/Anti Anti Survey. fiction-is-not-reality analysed the results of the survey. The results showed those who call themselves "anti-anti" and those who call themselves "pro-shipper" have a bit of a variance in views and attitudes, suggesting these are not 100% synonymous terms.[52] In 2019, fiction-is-not-reality commented that "Last year's attempt at defining pro-shippers as different from anti-antis unfortunately failed completely because only a bunch of us were actively trying to point out the differences. They're both self-applied label that have less to do with definition and intention and more to do with what the single person likes to think themselves as."
There is also a 2020 survey called the Anti vs Pro-Ship Meta Survey by Tumblr user asterosian, another survey hoping to gather the thoughts and opinions of both anti-shippers and pro-shippers. This survey is ongoing as of Oct 2020 and as yet to show its results.
Example Anti-anti and Pro-shipper blogs
Examples Wanted: Editors are encouraged to add more examples or a wider variety of examples. |
- Who-gives-a-ship
- theassholeantiarchive[53]
- antis-delete-your-blogs-pls-thx[54]
- pro-fiction-konata, formerly fujoshi-and-fudanshi-support[55]
- freedom-of-fanfic
- antiantis-saltmine[56]
- golbatgender[57]
- yourshipisfine[58]
- discoursecatharsis[59]
- shipping-isnt-morality[60]
- reysistantis[61]
- whoburntmytoast/educating-antis[62]
- just-antithings[63]
Meta/Further Reading
Meta by Anti-Antis
- Anti vs Pro-Ship Meta Survey (Asterosian's Anti VS Pro-ship meta survey)
- early? example in Teen Wolf fandom: post by knottingwolves, with addition by plushstiel - outrage against moral policing of incest ships, with bonus argument that Sterek is worse because fandom doesn't acknowledge that it is problematic (March 2014)
- antishipping as the cool new trend, or: why are most antis under 25 years old?, by freedom-of-fanfic, a prominent and vocal pro-shipper (June 2017)
- đ§”Yes. Why? Let's consult the professionals... by red_devil330. A thread about taboo sexual fantasies with plenty of sources from experts.
Further Reading
- ZADR, or Zim and Dib Romance, is a ship with a tumultuous relationship between anti-antis and antishippers. Some antishippers consider it a "problematic" ship while others don't, resulting in ZADR shippers self describing as antishippers while other antishippers call them proshippers. Thus, some ZADR shippers are anti-antis while others aren't.
References
- ^ Urban Dictionary đđ entry
- ^ a b There are a lot more anti-anti-shipper blogs now. fail_fandomanon, Nov 5, 2015 (Accessed 7/25/2021)
- ^ See thread starting with "Do you not go to tumblr, nonny?" Re: That Wouldn't Fly Today, Archived version, fail_fandomanon, 15 March 2016 (Accessed 7/25/2021)
- ^ For example, see this 2021 definition of proshipper: "a proshipper or 'problematic' shipper is someone who believes shipping abusive, morally wrong, or otherwise 'problematic' ships is okay. this can include pedophilic or incestuous ships." tumblr post by introject-culture-is, Archived version, 24 November 2021. As of 23 March 2022, this post has 168 notes.
- ^ Another example: "Hi, what's a proshipper?" "problematic shipper (ex. incest)" ask sent to curiouscat user OIKAWUHHH, Archived version, 26 February 2022. (Accessed 21 October 2022.)
- ^ Example from twitter: Also the pro in proshipper literally stands for PROBLEMATIC you absolute fool proshitters know theyâre freaks, Archived version, tweet by Zenythycal, 21 February 2022.
- ^ Example from reddit: "people who ship incest, pedophilia, sexual assault or other intense abuse and claim it is "cute", normal, healthy, etc." Welcome to r/antiship!, Archived version, 16 September 2021. (Accessed 21 October 2022.)
- ^ Sometime in the last 18 months, it got put about (on tiktok) that âproshipperâ is short for âproblematic shipperâ, Archived version, tweet by freetofic, 23 January 2023.
- ^ And so many more 100% seriously think proshipper is a MAP/pedophile dogwhistle when itâs not., Archived version, tweet by GojiraSpouse, 16 September 2022.
- ^ "'proship' and 'anti anti' and all labels along those lines are a pedophile dog whistle. it was invented in the past decade to build up a community of pedophiles in fandoms and online spaces frequented by children." tumblr post by anthropofagy (original deleted), Archived version, March 2021. As of 13 October 2024, this Tumblr post has 1516 notes.
- ^ I just spent a few minutes checking out the recent discourse about her and... it seems nobody is talking about how the pin she was complaining about was a "proshipper" pin, and... correct me if i'm wrong but isn't that like... a pedophile dogwhistle or something...?, Archived version, tweet by juke_box8, 15 March 2021.
- ^ idk if yall have already seen this specific post but it seems like "pro-ship was invented as a dogwhistle for predator" thing is getting traction fast. thats socmed disinformation for you. its easy to light fires and hard to put them out, tweet by caterstooth, 10 March 2021.
- ^ For reference, 'proship' is basically a dog whistle for cp, in//c//est and romanticized abuse fiction, especially within fandom spaces. It's content often being used to digitally groom minors to accept abuse., Archived version, tweet by Kittydoesstuff1, 20 May 2023.
- ^ "If y'all see anyone w 'proship'/profic on their account (here r anywhere) just know that's a pedo dog whistle n they want lil kids" Facebook post, Archived version by Zadkiel Ruiel in group thelowestnarakaofincessantsufferingandtorment, 30 June 2023.
- ^ It's been like a 7 year campaign from antis to associate proship with pedophilia. It's why you see people who objectively believe in pro-ship and pro-fiction id as antis or proship dni bc they think proship = pedophile., Archived version, tweet by nonconarchon, 12 Oct 2024.
- ^ Earliest unambiguous example I found: proshippers? more like proshitters, Archived version, tweet by calhounz_remade, Jun 25, 2020.
- ^ proshitters dni until:2022-01-01, Archived version, twitter search conducted on 17 August 2022. Search without date limiter.
- ^ [1]
- ^ [2] [3]
- ^ Example of a discussion on fail_fandomanon: Re: Fandom Venting, Archived version, 2021-08-01.
- ^ a b c "Anonymous asked: what does anti anti mean?". May 25, 2019. Archived from the original on 2021-10-20. Retrieved May 31, 2019.
- ^ "The usage and meaning of the term 'proship' is entirely dependent on the agenda in use by the speaker. If the speaker wishes to appeal to a visceral disgust and the moral sensibilities of their audience, they will define 'proship' in a manner that benefits their causeâthat is, they will use the most disturbing definition possible due to the original definitionâs inclusivity." âProship Rhetoricâ: A Battle for Meaning in a Post-Truth Internet, Archived version, substack post by JD Riley, 4 Oct 2022.
- ^ "Because it's easier to win internet arguments when you make up things to make the other side look awful. It's also nice for pointless virtue-signalling, and to get people you don't like harassed." Comment on Why has proshipping been given multiple meanings?, Archived version, r/AO3, 10 August 2023.
- ^ "Antis and their ideology have been debunked so much by the professionals that they need to now twist the actual definition of a word so people would believe their side more." Comment on Is the bottom one more valuable to believe as someone who has no knowledge of the pros and antis?, Archived version, r/AO3, 6 October 2024.
- ^ "Honestly the fact they're using 'proship' as a noun to mean 'problematic ship' feels like a very deliberate manipulation tactic" Comment on Proships, Archived version, r/AO3, 19 September 2024.
- ^ "Yeah and it's a definition made up by people who don't use the term and are opposed to it. If I hated nonnies and I decided the word nonny means bad person who can't read and probably smells and that caught on, it would still be the wrong definition." Re: Social Media - Tumblr pro/anti ship survey, Archived version, fail_fandomanon, 2024-03-26.
- ^ a reminder: proshipping started as a response to people using anti-[shipname tags on tumblr, the pro- has always meant pro- as a prefix meaning "for", and the only people using "proship" as short for "problematic ship" are people who have bought into fanpol rhetoric.], Archived version, tweet by asthouwill, 15 Sep 2022.
- ^ Dont come at me with the "correct definition" of proship or whatever. i was trying to convey how vague the terms proship/profic are + that spaces accepting fictional zoo/pedo content are breeding grounds for predators whether you like it or not, Archived version, tweet by CORVICIDE_, 16 Aug 2024.
- ^ It honestly infuriates/devastates me how quickly and effectively antis were able to overhaul the ACTUAL long-standing (6+ years) meaning of âproshipâ (âproâ as in âforâ)! It feels like within only a year theyâd convinced the whole world it meant âproâ as in âproblematicâ, Archived version, tweet by horse_disk, 22 February 2023.
- ^ "so today, i saw a negative comment about proshipping, and i essentially went 'hey! i hope i'm not being rude or anything, but thats not actually what proshipping is. its pretty misunderstood.' and yknow explained what it actually is. anyway, i check reddit an hour later, and bam!! i'm banned." banned from sub for defending proship, Archived version, r/FanFiction, 19 August 2022.
- ^ Example: "Hi, this is an automated response to make sure we're all on the same page about the definitions of proshipping and antishipping." Comment in reply to Proshippers? Antishippers??, Archived version, r/AO3, 9 August 2024.
- ^ tumblr post by insomniac-ships, Archived version, 13 Apr 2022. As of 12 October 2024, this Tumblr post has 16,660 notes.
- ^ Comment on What's up with the proship support on here?, Archived version, r/AO3, 18 December 2023.
- ^ Teens being antis doesn't bother me too much bc black and white thinking is somewhat normal for teenagers. What worries me the most is that anyone who challenges them to think more maturely is being branded as evil, and that now ppl in their 20s and even 30s are still antis., Archived version, tweet by doctorbaixue, 30 August 2023.
- ^ "AAAAnd this is seriously why antis need to realize that advocating for censorship is always a terrible idea, because it will inevitably be used against them, and especially used against LGBT+ and other minorities." Re: nothing has changed, tumblr is the same [tumblr thread], Archived version, fail_fandomanon, 2017-06-22.
- ^ "I've noticed on tumblr that the anti-anti blogs are pretty frothed about net neutrality, but the anti blogs don't say a peep about it. I honestly think they like censorship. I've seen a lot of them angry that AO3 doesn't practice censorship, and demanding it start." Re: Fanfictionrecommendations.com, fail_fandomanon, 2018-03-09.
- ^ "In the fight against censorship, I do think thereâs value in trying to understand why so many people support censorship. the surface explanation that is so often given (âwe need to shut down pedophilia, incest, and abuseâ) is blatantly untrue in so many instances of invocation, which begs the question: what are pro-censorship people really interested in censoring? and why do they lie to others (and themselves) about it?" tumblr post, Archived version by freedom-of-fanfic, 1 February 2019.
- ^ its confusing because antishippers are pro-censorship and proshippers are anti censorship. the antishippers' boogieman is people shipping pedophilic and incest ships but their actions have culminated into their pro-censorship statements it is today, Archived version, tweet by elotonvarvas, 13 Aug 2023.
- ^ Obviously I'm not going to force anyone to talk about anything on their page but I do think that, as a whole, we need to really start stressing the link between fandom puritanism and attempts to censor libraries and imprison librarians., Archived version, tweet by _DrinksGlue, 15 January 2024.
- ^ Several comments reference authoritarianism: Funny how anti-shipping arguments parallel conservative talking points?, Archived version, post in r/AO3, 10 April 2024.
- ^ Tumblr thread started by queerpyracy, Archived version, reblogged 24 August 2017.
- ^ "I merely think radfems have prominent influence in fandom/anti spaces these days, and every time I mention this people ask me to defend it so it gets talked about disproportionately often." tumblr post by freedom-of-fanfic, Archived version, 17 June 2017.
- ^ why are antis so misogynistic and ageist?, Archived version, anon ask answered by freedom-of-fanfic, 30 November 2018. As of 12 November 2024, this Tumblr post has 609 notes. archive.is
- ^ Also, if you're not pro-harassment but just dislike some content that you avoid and block, then you are NOT an anti, you're proship too, Archived version, tweet by ValApocalypse, 10 August 2024.
- ^ theassholeantiarchive, Tumblr. (Accessed 10/6/2020)
- ^ This Grown Adult Made A 500 Page Callout On A 13-Year-Old, YouTube. Dec 30, 2020 (Accessed 6/2/2021)
- ^ About page for freedom-of-fanfic. Accessed on July 15, 2018.
- ^ The Bio from shipping-isnt-morality
- ^ Antis-Delete-Your-Blogs-Pls, Carrd. (Accessed 10/4/2020)
- ^ untitled Tumblr post by Tired-and-Salty, 24 March 2019. (Accessed 10/5/2020)
- ^ Tumblr post by Jacobbyships, 8 November 2019. (Accessed 10/5/2020)
- ^ fiction-is-not-reality (June 27, 2018). "175312545655". Archived from the original on 2022-05-01. Retrieved May 8, 2019.
- ^ "theassholeantiarchive". Archived from the original on 2018-10-26.. Archive link 1, archive link 2
- ^ https://antis-delete-your-blogs-pls-thx.tumblr.com/
- ^ Tumblr promo post, Archived version
- ^ http://antiantis-saltmine.tumblr.com/
- ^ https://golbatgender.tumblr.com/
- ^ https://yourshipisfine.tumblr.com/
- ^ https://discoursecatharsis.tumblr.com/
- ^ http://shipping-isnt-morality.tumblr.com/
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