Category talk:Podfics

Subcategory Plurals

I've noticed that the subcategories of this category are inconsistent with whether or not they pluralise "podfic" (contrast Merlin Podfic with Supernatural Podfics. I feel like we should standardise that? I'm inclined to go with plural since the parent category is plural, but would like to know what everyone else thinks. --enchantedsleeper (talk) 18:37, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Agreed, Merlin Podfic and RWBY Podfic‎ should be updated to the plural.--aethel (talk) 19:50, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

I also agree that they should be standardized, I'm fine either way, but there does appear to be more subcategories using "Podfics" than than "Podfic", so it might be easier to change them to podfics instead of changing all the other categories to podfic -- Kingstoken (talk) 21:34, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Using Category on Fanfic pages

Hi, this is based on a conversation I had with Doro over on the Talk:The Student Prince page. Doro pointed out that the category Merlin Podfic is on all the Merlin fanfic pages that also have a podfic and in most cases the podfic is not by the author of the story. Similar to the reasons I gave for removing the Merlin Vid category from the Student Prince page, I'm thinking we should remove this category from any pages that do not specifically relate to podfics. We generally don't add fanvid categories to fanfic pages, when the fic inspired vids, so I don't think it should be any different with podfics.

I wanted to raise it here first to see if editors agree with this proposed change? From looking through the category, I think this will only effect pages in the Merlin Podfic subcategory, but I'm not 100% on that. --Auntags (talk) 21:16, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

I think that the Podfic category should be for pages about podfic and not be generally used on fanfic pages, unless maybe you get one of those rare instances, like The Student Prince, where the author also recorded the podfic -- Kingstoken (talk) 22:12, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I think the Podfics category should be used for pages that are primarily about a podfic, not on pages about a fanfic that has been podficced. That way, when you click on the Podfics category, you'll have some guarantee of finding pages that discuss podfic in depth. We could always create another category for fanfics with podfic available if that's something people are interested in, like Category:Podficced Fanfiction. (I don't think whether the author podficced it themselves is relevant to whether it belongs in the Podfics category, but if that's something people are interested in tracking, why not Category:Podficced by the Author.)--aethel (talk) 22:38, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

PS. I never saw a problem with Merlin Podfic not following this rule, though I guess the lack of consistency is confusing.--aethel (talk) 22:49, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

If we remove these pages from the category, then we would have to remove the Merlin Podfic category. Except for Drastically Redefining Protocol (podfic), all the pages in this cat are primarily about the fanfic and one page isn't enough for a separate category. When I made these pages more than 10 years ago, I thought it would be nice for fans looking for podfic to easily find these pages and I always included information about the podfic, inlcuding the podfic cover. Podfics aren't really my thing, though, so I don't mind either way. I thought it would elevate the importance of the podfics as separate fanworks but if people feel differently, by all means, delete the cat. However, I agree with aethel, whether the podfic is by the author or someone else shouldn't matter with regard to the category. --Doro (talk) 13:54, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

I think all the cover art images means we'd keep the Merlin Podfic category regardless. We could create Category:Podficced Merlin Fanfiction for the other pages.--aethel (talk) 16:58, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

And what main category would that go to? Podfics? Why then remove it to begin with? And who is supposed to understand the difference between Merlin Podfic and Podficced Merlin Fanfiction? The screencaps all have the category Merlin Fanfic too, so they won‘t be without category. I vote either keep it as it is or remove the Merlin Podfic category altogether. --Doro (talk) 17:38, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Doro, I completely misunderstood your comments on the previous page. I thought you were suggesting that since the Vid category was removed, the podfic category should be removed also. Sorry about that! If the category is removed from these fics, we could create a page for Merlin fanfics that have been podficced with links to the podfics, and link to that page from the main Merlin page. We could also redlink those podcasts and hopefully encourage folks to create pages for them.

Also, does removing the podcast category from fics mean that we have to delete the category?? It definitely has the potential to grow and there are other categories on Fanlore with less than the 5 page minimum. I wouldn't be opposed to the category staying. --Auntags (talk) 19:13, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

I removed all the fanfic pages from the podfic cat and there are enough pages left to keep the cat. --Doro (talk) 13:34, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

So if we wanted to create Category:Podficced Fanfiction and Category:Podficced Merlin Fanfiction, I would put Category:Podficced Fanfiction under Category:Fanfiction and Category:Podfic Fandom. Category:Podficced Merlin Fanfiction would then go under Category:Merlin Fanfiction and Category:Podficced Fanfiction. I think a podfic category is more appropriate than a fanfic category for assigning to podfic cover art, since it is the cover art for the podfic and not for the fanfic. For Merlin Podfic, I found a second page that's about a podfic specifically: Pairing Pendragon/Merlin. Splitting this category in two might actually encourage the creation of more podfic entries, since combining them into one gives people the false impression that we have a lot of pages about Merlin podfic already. Everything in a "Podficced Fanfiction" category would get a fanfiction infobox, and everything in a "Podfics" category would get a podfic infobox. There could be some grey area in the middle where there's a lot of info about the podfic on the fanfic page, but not enough to bother breaking out to its own page, but I think in most cases, there's only a sentence or two about the podfic on fanfic pages.--aethel (talk) 19:59, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

I'm against creating the suggested categories. The fanfiction pages all have the category Category:Merlin Fanfiction which is a subcat to Category:Merlin and Category:Fanfiction. Having a category Category:Podficced Merlin Fanfiction that's also a subcat to Category:Fanfiction makes no sense to me. The fanfiction part is already covered and podfic is podficced fanfiction. It was the podfic part why I created the Merlin Podfic category to being with. Also, there already is a List of Merlin Podfics. I've now removed all the Merlin fanfic pages from the podfic category. I left the List of Merlin Podfics and the Merlin podfic LJ community in the cat. All in all, there are enough pages left to keep the Merlin Podfic cat. --Doro (talk) 13:34, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

OK that's fine. It occurs to me there are really so many fanfics that have a podfic that the category could get too large to be meaningful, even if we could consistently use it correctly.--aethel (talk) 22:12, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Bandom Podfics category?

Apologies if this is not the right venue, but the discussion about the Merlin category above made me take a look at the podfic pages and I noticed that a good handful of them could belong to a Category:Bandom Podfics, if one existed. Should/Could this be created? --Greedy dancer (talk) 08:06, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Yes, there were enough podfic pages, so I created it :)--aethel (talk) 14:03, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! :) --Greedy dancer (talk) 08:00, 20 October 2021 (UTC)