Talk:Fanlore

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When the announcement was made on maryrenaultfics that we had made a set of articles on Fanlore about Mary Renault fandom, one fan commented:

Fweee! Awesome work, you guys!! *flappy hands of joy* It looks like a pretty great resource to me. Certainly it's possible to find most of those discussions/fics/challenges on the comm, with enough searching through the tags, but it's so great to have the links all laid out like that. :)

(for instance, I've repeatedly spent good-sized chunks of time going back through the "challenge" tag looking for one challenge or another, so it's great to have them all listed on the wiki!)

comment by innervoice_chan to the announcement that maryrenaultfics members had been working on FanLore articles about Mary Renault fandom.[1]

--Greer Watson 00:32, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Naming question

I'm going to add a zine called "Fanlore." How should I do this? "Fanlore (zine)" and "Fanlore (wiki)"? --Mrs. Potato Head 23:59, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

I suppose so. I always call it "Fanlore Wiki", anyway. --Greer Watson 01:00, 29 August 2011 (UTC)


November 2011 additions

Copying my comment over from the dw post in the hopes people can make use of it:

This is an excellent idea! Metafandom might be a good starting point for older viewpoints - looks like most of the discussion tagged "wiki" is about the Fan History Wiki (also http://www.delicious.com/metafandom/fanhistory) but the top few posts are Fanlore. The OTW tag might have useful stuff too.

I remember a Talk:Multifandom discussion about the meaning of and history of the term "multimedia" which might be interesting to mention - see Multimedia_(multiple_fandoms) vs Multimedia_(Multiple_Media), and an lj poll by iamsab. I think it's one of the earlier examples of fans from different backgrounds trying to organise the structure and content of the wiki in a way that's inclusive and clear. -- Tai 17:39, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Stats section

Is there data to expand the stats section? A few things that would be interesting as we come up to 20,000 pages:

  • the number of active users -- I make it only around 1634 who've made even one edit, and there might be fewer who've edited in mainspace or made >=5 edits
  • trends in numbers of active users (for some definition of active -- active in last week, per the stats page, might be a bit restrictive)
  • graph and/or table of the number of pages/(active) users/hits changing over time
  • more detail on the most popular pages, especially those that aren't categories
  • most edited pages
  • number of pages by high-level category (I guess I could extract this by hand), but particularly trends over time eg to illustrate whether (or not), say, creation of pages on fandoms is being replaced by creation of pages on authors/works/&c

Thanks -- Espresso Addict 02:52, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Special:PopularPages has info about popular pages that aren't categories, and Special:MostLinkedCategories, Special:MostLinkedPages and Special:MostRevisions might be interesting. --Doro 07:13, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, Doro. Food for thought. Espresso Addict 15:06, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Should we remove the number of registered editors from this article -- a high proportion of the 134,868 must be (blocked) spambots and the figure is becoming laughably unrepresentative when only 29 editors edited in the past 7 days. ETA: I note someone has already removed it from the main page. Espresso Addict 07:02, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Image Policy quote

Does anyone have a different quote for pro Fanlore's art policy? The one there now is nice, but it refers to this, which is just a link to DeviantArt and not art uploaded to Fanlore, so it's not really relevant to the policy discussion. --sparc (talk) 02:56, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Found one and will keep looking.--MeeDee (talk) 07:14, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

"completely, utterly, and absolutely" feels like a bit too much. How about just one of those? It would still convey the same message. --Mrs. Potato Head (talk) 21:40, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

okay, I removed two. I was trying to convey people's really strong feelings. but then I also have really strong feelings....--æþel (talk) 21:53, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Removed Editing Suggestion

This was on the main page, and I thought it would be better to move it here, if only for a more polished look: we should write something about the long road to developing the categories we currently use (with links to the Fanlore dw comm posts and the awesome images depicting category structure changes) --MPH (talk) 19:16, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

I could certainly speak to the evolution of categories, but... does anybody besides Fanlore editors care? There was some drama with fandom categories and the Fandoms by Canon Type, but in hindsight it feels like a tempest in a teapot. The subject is extremely fiddly and dull, and the wank that happened was partly (I think) due to the difficulty of figuring out and explaining to each other the logic behind the categories as they existed and what we wanted to replace them with. Some categories are still a mystery to me (Debate vs. Discussion, anyone?). At one point I absolutely drafted a post that ended up saying the opposite of what I intended, thus causing outcry from the 10-20 people who read it. Though I guess that could apply to a lot of fannish history.--æþel (talk) 04:16, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
Yes, and it would be good to review this whole page and, with the distance of years' context, evaluate some of the other "tempest in a teapot" things. --MPH (talk) 13:55, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Image Policy Section Wording

I'd like to replace "shut her down" regarding ratcreature's comments with something as descriptive but less inflammatory. Also, the footnote to that comment refers to "she" and I don't know if the "she" is ratcreature or astolat or some one else? If someone knows, could they clarify? --MPH (talk) 13:55, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Fixed.--æþel (talk) 16:04, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Most Visited Pages

I wish we had a way of accessing and showing the top 20 most visited pages by year. --MPH (talk) 23:12, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Page Cleanup Needed

This page could use a split between an about-fanlore page and a Fanlore history page (History of Fanlore? Fanlore History? Do we have a standard practice for that?) We might also split off a "fanlore controversies" page, esp with more details about the Fan History drama. Elf (talk) 20:42, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Was there ever any further discussion about splitting the page? I like that idea. - Fandomgeographies (talk) 15:50, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

fanlore glossary term page?

I've been searching mentions of "fanlore" on twitter and noticed that people in some fandoms are using the term as a synonym of fanon or headcanon. I'm not 100% positive because I'm not in any of these fandoms. But if someone knows more about the usage of this term, it would be nice to have a Fanlore (glossary term) page (unless there's one already and it's just not linked here?). Also does anyone know how the name of this website was arrived at? Was the current fanon synonym already in use when they named this website? Is it just a coincidence and the wiki committee thought it was inventing the word? Did the term have another meaning at one point?--aethel (talk) 16:29, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

I have also been seeing usage of "fanlore" as synonymous with fanon/headcanon/fan theory, and I think a glossary term page would be useful. I'm not sure if that usage was common at the time the wiki was named, or if it played a role in the name choice. Here is a post announcing the name of the wiki, and there was an update from earlier in the year that mentioned the wiki committee had sent a shortlist of possible names to the board. - Fandomgeographies (talk) 20:03, 16 March 2019 (UTC)