A Secret Place

Zine
Title:	A Secret Place
Publisher:	Mkashef Enterprises
Editor(s):	Alayne
Date(s):	1988-1992
Series?:
Medium:	print
Size:
Genre:
Fandom:	Beauty and the Beast (TV)
Language:	English
External Links:	Online Flyer with story summaries, Archived version(accessed 04/02/16)
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A Secret Place is a het adult Beauty and the Beast anthology.

a 1990 flyer

From a 1992 ad in Zine Scene: "An adult Beauty and the Beast zine! What really goes on Below? Well, we have some possibilities for you!"

General Comments

1989

My compliments to you all. I liken ASP to moonshine: made with lots of TLC, it's nice and smooth and leaves you with a nice warm feeling.

When I first ordered A Secret Place, I wasnlt really sure. Of course I knew that it would be stories of Beauty and The Beast. But l've truly been surprised and pleased with all the stories of the true love that has been captured on the pages. I too have thought about last year's 2nd season ending and have formed my own stories of what happened. But I'm not as gifted as the people who paint these beautiful pictures in our minds... I have found a very unique was of reading these wonderful stories -- I listen to classical music, the more romantic stuff and usually drink tea or even have a glass of mulled wine, along with the music. It transports me to those "Secret Places".

First, I would like to let you know how much I enjoy all the "A Secret Place" issues. The stories are excellent; very sensuous. And I never expected to see such wonderful art work. Many of the sketches certainly carbonated my hormones! It's a shame Mr. Ron Koslow couldn't have loosened up some in his handling of Vincent and Catherine's relationship. I'm still shaking my head over that main love scene from the movie and his explanation of it; also. what the show was turned into in its "third season". It's little wonder it just got cancelled again. Did he really think the show would survive by killing off Catherine and the romance? We loved her also. He not only killed off their dream. but ours. It's a real shame. because this was once a beautiful. touching show...Enough of that... If it's (ASP #5) anything like the previous 4 issues. it will have been well worth the wait. P.S. At least we, the fans, can keep our dream for these 2 characters alive through "A Secret Place".

I am interested in ordering A Secret Place and A Secret Place II. My friend Janet is sick and tired of my holding on to hers, so I thought l'd better get my own. I'm not usually very fond of fan written literature, but A Secret Place definitely fills a void that up to now has only existed in my imagination!

To have a bond and soul mate would be wonderful, to put it mildly. The stories bring to life what a lot of us just dream about.

It is great to read adult theme stories that are written for those of us who wish to read a more fulfilling time of Vincent and Catherine's ongoing relationship. I find the stories to be well written and for the most part in good taste -- but I have to admit there's a lot more romancing going on around here and I love it -- so for me the adult reading puts a smile on my face and a twinkle in my hubby's eyes. That's for all you do.

1990

I have (the first five issues) and as they continue to be good stories, I'll continue ordering. The only bad thing about them is the last page because it's the end.

Your Secret zines are as always excellent, classy, well presented, and affordable. A combination that can't be beat. I'd love to see your BATB zines around as long as your other ST (STAR TREK) zines -- a long, long time.

Reading about Vincent and Catherine is a hobby of mine, and I can always count on ASP to hord my attention com- pletely and entertain me from beginning to end. I am very fortunate to have the zines of ASP #1-#5. They are absolutely at the very top of my favorite of BATB zine reading. I will continue to buy your zine as long as you continue to crank them out. I am one of your biggest fans.

First, many thanks for the prompt delivery of issues I, 2, 4, 5 and 6 of "ASP". Now, to the zines themselves. What can I say? (Quite a lot, as it happens!)

Poetry -- simply sublime. There was not one poem that did not move me or touch a cord in me somewhere. Oh, to be able to convey such depth and meaning with mere wordsl Writing poetry is truly an art. Your poets are all artists.

Art work -- wonderful! There were a few illustrations I did not like, but not due to any lack of talent on the part of the artists. Mostly it was case of my thinking: "Oh no! Vincent doesn't look like that!" But I cannot criticize just because some of your artists hole images of Vincent that do not match my own. We all see him differently. How else could he represent "perfection" for so many of us?

The stories -- magical. I could not possibly pick a favorite. Though the sexier they were, the more I enjoyed them! (Who said we British are prudes?)

I cannot thank you enough for producing these zines. Fortunately-- thanks to Helpers Network UK we are now getting some British B&B fanzines, but no-where near enough to satisfy my voracious appetite. As a contributor to the British z1nes... I really do appreciate the time and effort put in by your contributors and your good self. My heart-felt thanks to you all.

I shall finish by saying that I look forward to many more issues of "ASP". It fills a big, empty place in my life. Only Vincent could fill it better I

I must just say that I particularly liked the art work by "Dragon" and J.Ley. Breathtaking! More, please!

I have enjoyed reading "ASP 1-7". I have enclosed SASE for 8 & 9.

I don't understand the big deal some people have made about "Diana stories", let alone yours. I have enjoyed all of the stories, art work and poetry in "ASP 1-7". I want to thank you for .your high standards. It is wonderful to read a story with sex in it (since sex is a very natural and normal part of adult human life for most people). I do not care for "pornography" where the object is sex (and not a story) and there is no story at all. I am very happy to have found books that include sex in the stories without falling into my "pornography" category of bad or no writing. The stories! in "ASP" have all captured the essence of the characters.· Thank you for your excellent editing and choices.

P.S. I wonder why you are required to get age statements and regular book stores, etc, aren't. Your books are less graphic, more tasteful and better written than many found in Crown or Dalton or Waldon!

[EDITOR'S NOTE: The age statement requirement applies to mail order. It's a postal regulation that no "adult" material be sold to minors through the mails. And, since it is a very punishable Federal crime to do so, to protect ourselves, those of us who sell "adult" material by mail request our customers help keep us out of "The Big House" by stating that they are of age!].

Let me just say I think "ASP" is far and away the best B&B zine I've read. The stories are excellent and well thought out. Even the boarders are beautiful.

Some Testy Exchanges

[A fan]: I have just finished reading the three ASP books I ordered. After getting over the initial shock of some of the rather explicit writing, I settled back and just enjoyed the stories. For the most part I thought they were terrific. The writing was great. At least the plots were believable and mostly in keeping with the theme of Beauty and The Beast. I enjoyed everyone of them.. Your proof reading leaves a little to be desired. However, given the lovely stories, and the absolutely beautiful art work (I am fast becoming a fan of the artist who calls himself/herself (?) Dragon.) I think it can be overlooked. I know how time consuming writing stories can be having tried my hand at it a time or two. I have seen dozens of drawings by Dragon, and all of them are beautiful. Again, than you for some very enjoyable, not to mention erotic, reading.

[The editor]: I know there are typos. I've said it before. There are going to continue to be typos. All the reading of submissions, accepting or rejecting of submissions, typing, graphics, layout, etc in A SECRET PLACE is the work of one person -- me. I do the best I can. I edit/publish 6 publications. There's a lot of work to be done. I will continue to do my best. You could all do me a favor, though, and not write to me to tell me my proofreading could be better. I know it could be. But I doubt it will be. As I've already said many times before, I do the best I can. All of you who understand that have my ever-lasting appreciation. Your acceptance of the simple facts of zine editing makes editing this and other zines the fun it's supposed to be! Thanks, Barbara, for your understanding in overlooking the typos!

Regarding your response to my inquiry about ASP #3 -- I contacted the US Consumer Protection Agency -- Federal Mail Order Law requires that merchandise ordered must be mailed to the customer within 30 days of cashing their check, unless that customer has agreed otherwise.

I realize that I'm not your only customer!!!!!!! That kind of comment was unnecessary. Even multi-million dollar order houses ship within 6 weeks! As I indicated in my letter, I was ordering the zine from a flyer I picked up at TunnelCon 1. There was no reference to delivery terms (see attached). I believe that my consideration of your efforts was evident in that I included additional postage (without being asked!!) just in case.

My experience in dealing with people involved with BATB has always been delightful and friendly -- until now. It is irritating to be treated like an inconvenience rather than a valued customer.

[EDITOR'S NOTE: This lovely piece of -- commentary was [Ms. B's] reaction to my letter in response to her complaint after 3 weeks that she hadn't yet received her order. As with everyone who writes such letters, I explained the realities of fandom and fanzine editing. I felt I was very courteous with her, but she obviously felt otherwise. What follows is my admittedly emotional response to the letter above.]

Your order was filled on May 24. Believe me, I wish it hadn't been so that I could refund your money and be done with it.

You obviously have no conception of what a zine is or how it is made. This is not a "multi-million dollar mail order house" (which by the way have hundreds of employees, each assigned to a specific job). This isn't even a "business". Zines are a hobby. There is only one person at MKASHEF ENTERPRISES: me. I write half of nearly every zine I publish. I edit the other half. I type each issue. I do all the lay-out. I fill all the orders and answer all the inquiries. There is no one else here to help with any of this. I also have a job and a life. And, while you may be Super Woman, I am only human and can only do what I can do. You think you can do a better job? You think you can write, edit and produce something better than A SECRET PLACE? Be my guest.

There's plenty of room for more zines in the world and a lot of room for the problems that go along with it. If, after you've done what I've been doing for ten years (editing zines) you still feel you have the right to tell me how to do it, then we might have something to say to each other.

You were correct about one thing. You are not a valued customer of MKASHEF ENTERPRISES because as of this date you are no customer of MKASHEF ENTERPRISES. I will accept no further mail from you, this includes letters and/or orders. I don't have time to deal with people like you.

Issue 1

front cover of issue #1, Alayne

back cover of issue #1, Linda Lakin

A Secret Place 1 is 176 pages long and was published in 1988. Artwork: Alayne (front cover), Kay Wells, Linda Lakin, Sara B. Leonard, Dragon, Shellie Whild, Carol A. Pierce, Charlotte Howey, Gayle F, T.J. Burnside.

From the editorial:

Welcome to the first issue of A Secret Place, I'm very pleased that you have joined us in our first little excursion into this new realm of wonder and romance and beauty and mystery and...well, you get the idea. I'm very excited about this zine. It's been a labor of love and a great deal of fun. I hope it becomes a like experience for you. ...it was also a delight to watch the stories I received parallel the episodes of Beauty and The Beast. Especially noteworthy of this parallel is Dovya Blacque’s “Ocean Upon the Sky” and the episode "A Happy Life". I can guarantee you that “Ocean Upon the Sky” was in my hands, complete, before “A Happy Life” was aired!...

• The Beauty of Sky to Stone by Wendy Rathbone (4)
• December by DVS—Catherine spends Christmas Below and receives a most unexpected gift... (5)
• I Am by Carol Pierce (19)
• Two Worlds One by Cybel Harper (21)
• Guardian by Robin Hood (22)
• Fulfillment by Barbara Gipson—A seduction. (23)
• An Intangible Nothing by Alayne Gelfand (29)
• Untitled by Jeanne Cloud (30)
• Some Way Back by Jeanne Cloud—After Vincent's encounter with the gang Above, Catherine and Father deal with his blindness, his injuries, and his growing need for the woman he loves but thinks he cannot have. (31)
• Dreams of Desire by Scarlet Warner (55)
• Tethers by Carol A. Pierce (58)
• Spirals by Elizabeth Hillman (59)
• A Well of Stars by Robin Hood—Will Vincent's resolve to shut off Catherine and their bond survive Catherine's decision to the contrary? (60)
• Foundation by Carol A. Pierce (89)
• Conqueror by Jo Ann Sides (90)
• A Secret Place by Meg Fine (92)
• Shadows by Cybel Harper (93)
• A Truth Beyond Knowledge by Lynn Reinhardt—Catherine has a true—if as yet unfulfilled—story to tell Vincent... (94)
• From Below by Charla T. Menke (102)
• Faraway Beast by Nere Saga—A frank, honest, open discussion results in Catherine and Vincent arriving at a new and mutual understanding of one another's desires... (103)
• Confession by Carol A. Pierce (123)
• A Different Beauty by Alayne Gelfand (125)
• Silence is Broken by Robin Hood (127)
• Untitled by Jeanne Cloud (128)
• Saowen by S. Randant—A son follows in his father's footsteps on a distant Halloween Eve... (129)
• Impossible Loss by Charla T. Menke (132)
• The Leaving by Robin Hood (133)
• Paradise Eve/When Dreams Come True by Judy Darnell (135)
• Mirrors by Alayne Gefland (137)
• A Presence by Wendy Rathbone (139)
• Ocean Upon the Sky by Dovya Blacque—Exhausted by work, Catherine falls ill only to be doted over by a well-meaning but stubborn Joe Maxwell... who comes face-to-face with the love of Catherine's life on a balcony 18 stories above Manhattan... (140)

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  inside issue #1, first poem

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  inside issue #1, Linda Lakin for "The Beauty of Sky to Stone"

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  inside issue #1, sample text

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  inside issue #1, Linda Lakin

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  inside issue #1, Dragon

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  inside issue #1, T.J. Burnside

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  inside issue #1, C.A. Pierce

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  inside issue #1, Dragon

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  inside issue #1, Linda Lakin

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  inside issue #1, Alayne

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  inside issue #1, Gayle F for "Saowen"

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  inside issue #1, Shellie Whild

Reactions and Reviews: Issue 1

Spiral binding was too small making the pages toward the end difficult to turn... If you want stories of Vincent and Catherine making love, then this is the publication for you. Dragon's artwork is really beautiful.

Print Quality - 4.7

Proofreading - 4.5

Sexual Content - 4.2

Plot - 1.7

Character Integrity - 2.7

Believability - 2.3

The first in the series of this Adult zine is comprised mainly of first-time stories that delve into how Catherine and Vincent overcome his hesitations about a physical relationship. One non-Adult story, 'Some Way Back,' by Jeanne Cloud is particularly touching, as is a very short story about Catherine and Vincent's son, Jacob, going Above on Saowen. Lots of poetry, fanart. Explicit sex.

All I can say about A Secret Place #1 is WOW! The art work is the best I've ever seen in a 'zine. And the quality of the stories is really impressive. You've some great writers. I hope they keep up the good work. Thanks for making the- wait for the new season a lot more bearable.

One comment I would like to make about ASP 1. I know the flyer stares in bold letters that the zine contains explicit sexual material, WHOA, to my surprise I thought it meant like the type you would find in the Harlequin Romances, my goodness! It turns out it is more like those really fat Romance books by R. Rogers, Beatrice Small, etc. Every detail I mean really in my opinion some of the stuff could be let out The imagination is a lot more powerful! That's just me. My favorite was Saowen. I love the poetry. I wish I could write. Sigh.

I received ASP #1 yesterday and I was up till 1:30AM reading 90% of it. It's wonderful and so well written. Dragon's art is gorgeous. The stories are as professional as the show's writers, if they wrote such things. I found nothing or objectionable about any of the stories... how could such a beautiful love story be "dirty"? One of our more eminent helpers didn't care for it - I think she has rocks in her head. Please rush ASP vol. #2 and let me know when vol. #3 is ready.

I received ASP #1 a few weeks ago and shared it with my fellow lion-lovers who appreciated it as much as I did. It was my fIrst taste of B&B literature, and was very exciting. I've received other publications since, and I must say, they suffer by comparison. Yao asked for comments both positive and negative in your foreword for ASP #1, but the worst I have to say about it is that yes, indeed, it could use some serious proofreading.... And as far as your own abilities, you type, edit, layout, and provide art and poetry. Are you talented, or what? Seriously. I was amazed by the extent of your abilities...I hope you and your talented staff will continue to produce ASP. We enjoy it. By the way, please send me ASP #2.

I just wish to write to you and tell you how much I have enjoyed the fanzine, "A Secret Place". As I have communicated to you, I am very new to "Fandom" and was not all that sure what to expect from your zine. Yes. I knew it would be adult in nature, but didn't know how well written it was going to be. I think I expected to be totally embarrassed by the whole thing. Glad to say, I was wrong.

I was very happy and mildly shocked at how well it was presented. For me, it does serve a need and sort of rounds out the whole "Beauty And The Beast" romantic concept. I adore the show and admire the acting abilities of Ron, Linda and Roy. The show means a lot to me on, oh, so many levels that it is hard to discern all the threads that make it so special to me. The romance is sweet and one is aware of the underlying sexual tension tbat is building between the two characters. However, T.V. being what it is, I doubt very much that 'Vincent' and 'Catherine" will never get beyond the sighing stage. In the real world their love would eventually be consummated, of that I am sure. Since they are not in the real world, your zine definitely fills in the gaps between the two. I look forward to my reserved copy of "A Secret Place II" and all of the rest yet to be published!

If I may be allowed, just a few brief comments on the stories? In December: I found it to be very sweet and could mentally hear 'Catherine' and 'Vincent's' voices saying those words, but I do not believe 'Vincent' would be quite that shy! Jeanne Cloud's story was terrific. She should write more. She certainly has a handle on the show and it's characters. However. I am sorry the story was induded in this zine because it didn't fit the theme of the rest of the stories.

The story Saowen is another example, but I do dream of them eventually having a family of their very own, one day. They are all fine stories and I am not criticizing in any way their talents, just whether they belong in the scheme of things.

I believe Ocean Upon The Sky to be the truest line I think. 'Catherine' and 'Vincent' would follow. I could almost imagine that on a T.V. episode. The poetry was enjoyable and the art work appealing. My only regret is that the zine was only 176 pages long. I hope I can get A Secret Place II before the November 18th airing. It would put me in thc mood for what is to come this season!

One, other thing: being married for 20 years, I am not upset by sex if it is presented in a tasteful manner. I do not cringe at the word and I am not blasé about it. I realize it is important in a well rounded relationship. So, your work and that of the authors is very acceptable to me. Your zine fills in the gaps perfectly for me from the other zines I have managed to get. Other stories are semi-romantic, adventurous and sometimes sad. I like to go back to your stories to alleviate my some times frustrations with the above concepts! Please keep up the good work. I sent a SASE for III, don't forget me - EVER!

What a treat this was -- well worth the wait. [know there are lots of B&B skeptics who think the "relationship" can't ever be consummated. I hope they all read "ASP"!

My farorite long story was "Faraway Beast" by Nere Sago. Though the idea itself - Catherine going Below for vacation - isn't unique, the presentation was the best I've seen. The inter-play was very well handled between V&C and, especially be- tween they and Father (who is often too harsh in fan fic). I wish we could have heard some of those tantalizing childhood escapes. Father regales Catherine with! The first time scene stood out in this zine crammed with lots of lovely first time scenes. Vincent is treated with care concerning his special needs - and special problems in "that area". (A euphemism - always a euphemism!)

My favorite shorter piece was "Saowen". Lovely, just lovely and quite unexpected. I had to read it twice just to digest the nuances. The accompanying art by [Gayle F] was perfect. The kitty was a nice touch! It's always nice to see B&B art that isn't taken directly from available stills. I also liked the Sarah Leonard sketch on pg. 22 (for "The Guardian") very and peaceful and simple.

Other fun things -- Vincent's favorite food is ice cream!, the "you are magnificent" line in one form or another in a bunch of the stories, all Dragon's art.

One mention that must be... well... mentioned was the extraordinary layout/design of the zine. The page borders, and fill ins a special treat. What a thoughtful way to add just a bit more loveliness to ASP. It really shows the love and care that went into the making.

I just received A SECRET PLACE #1 (and only a short time later finished reading it) and wanted to send my congratulations on a zine beautifully done. All of the stories were well written, especially Dovya Blacque's "Ocean Upon The Sky."

There are many things about Ms. Blacque's tale that are excellent -- a thoughtful plot, poetic style with perfect restraint and accurate characterizations. It is noteworthy, I thought, that Dovya captured some depth of character especially. Most of the other authors seemed primarily intent on Vincent's portrayal, a temptation perhaps because he is such a novel creation just as, for instance, Spock was in his universe.

I recall when I first watched the televised BEAUTY AND BEAST (I didn't catch the first few episodes) I was immediately captivated by Vincent but appreciated little of Catherine. It was only as the series progressed that I came to see Catherine as the beautiful and worthy woman that she is, perhaps partly because that is how Vincent sees her. Now she seems to me to be a whole and valuable person in her own right and I very much enjoy episodes that center on her and her trials in the world Above.

Another thing that is very right about this first zine is a little variety. In my humble and probably minority op1n10n I think it best to include stories that don't fixate on explicit sex. If every story is a contrivance to get Vincent and Catherine into bed, no matter how innovative the method or the manipulations, over time the overall enjoyment, the magic will be diminished. Sometimes a little is better than a lot; it's better to get up from the table a little hungry. All stories are better off for having a strong, interesting, believable plot....

Another comment about the zine: the poetry was lovely. Ordinarily I don't dwell on fanzine poetry but Sharon Pearsonls "Shadows" and your own "A Different Beauty" and "Mirrors" were all delightful. And Dragon's illustrations were wonderful (pp. 136 and 138) and added a special touch to tile zine.

One last MINOR point that I hesitate to add is this. In Jeanne Cloud's interesting tale "Some Way Back" Father gives Vincent steroids for a suspected infectious pneumonia. That's risky business. Giving steroids for smoke inhalation is okay but if Vincent's pneumonia is an infectious aspiration pneumonia (was he unconscious and simulateously knocked over in the course of the attack?) and he received steroids -- well, that can be a lethal combination. Contrary to popular opinion steroids are not a panacea or harmless drugs. And I very much enjoyed Ms. Cloud's story otherwise.

Boy, talk about picky LOCs. Disgusting, isn't it?

Anyway, I very much enjoyed all stories in ASP and would like to order ASP #2 and #3. Enclosed is a check and a SASE should any further issues come forth. Thank you very much for all the hard work you do, Alayne, in writing, artistry and publishing. Without you, none of these wonderful works would reach us, the readers. I appreciate that and you.

Issue 2

front cover of issue #2, Alayne

A Secret Place 2 was published in 1989 and contains 168 pages. Artwork: Alayne (front cover), Dragon, Charlotte Hawey, Caro Hedge, Shellie Whild, Edith Crowe, Gayhart.

• Editorial (3)
• The Seduction of Virgins by D.V.S.--A verbal seduction? Vincent has his reservations... but apparently only for a short while... (4)
• Dreams Die by Cybel Harper (27)
• The Crystal and the Rose by Elaine Landman—After asking Father's advice on his physical attraction to Catherine, Vincent is convinced it was never meant to be... creating a challenge Catherine is determined to take up... and win... (28)
• That Was Then... by Nina Thomas—Dorissa calls herself a spiritualist... she speaks of past lives, of past lives Catherine and Vincent have shared... The night after Catherine first visits Dorissa, she begins to dream... (43)
• The Legend of the Beast and Beauty by Wendy Rathbone (57)
• Moontide by Nancy Dell—It was another night for revelations, for admissions, for commitment... for love... and Catherine wasn't about to let one more chance to have what she wanted slip through her fingers... (61)
• Beauty/Beast by Sue-Anne Hartwick (75)
• Rubicon by Edith Crowe (77)
• Dreams by R.C. Prince ("Concerned more and more each day over Vincent's attachment to Catherine, Father seeks out the help of Narcissus in breaking the unearthly hold on his son...") (78)
• Midnight Obsessions by Jo Ann Sides (99)
• A Gray Dawn Breaking by Elizabeth Bell—It was a crazy idea, taking Vincent to see the ocean, but it was an idea that, once it had occurred to her, Catherine was loathe to forget... (103)
• Among the Ruins by Cybel Harper (128)
• Mists of the Night by Merlyn Dane—Vincent gets fleas from a rescued kitten. (129)
• Wings by Sue-Anne Hartwick (168)

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  inside issue #1, Dragon

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  inside issue #1, sample text

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  inside issue #1, Edith Crowe

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  inside issue #1, Gayhart

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  inside issue #1, Dragon

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  inside issue #1, sample poem

Reactions and Reviews: Issue 2

Spiral binding was too small making the pages toward the end difficult to turn.

Print Quality - 4.7

Proofreading - 2.8

Sexual Content - 4.7

Plot - 1.8

Character Integrity - 2.0

Believability - 2.0

The Adult story lines continue in this anthology of 8 stories centering on the consummation of Catherine and Vincent's relationship. In 'The Seduction of Virgins,' Catherine argues her case for advancing the relationship; in 'That Was Then....' Catherine's erotic dreams of past lives with Vincent draw him to her during the night; and in 'Dreams' Father gets a potion from Narcissa to make Vincent forget Catherine. Other stories include 'Gray Dawn Breaking' in which Catherine takes Vincent to her beach house; and in 'Mists Of The Night,' after 3 weeks apart, Catherine searches Vincent out. Explicit sex.

I don't have time to write a proper LOC on ASP #2, but I did want to say how very much I enjoyed "'The Seduction of Virgins" by DVS (whoever she may be). The dialogue was perfectly delightful, and by far the most erotic lead-in to a love scene between V&C that I've read yet. Please thank DVS for me.

Let me catch my breath! I just finished ASP 2 and I'm still panting a bit. I've read steamy stories before but "Mists of Night" by Merlyn Dane fogged my contacts and carbonated my hormones! Talk about woman's fantasy! I could quote my favorite lines but they all make me blush. Chain this writer to a typewriter and keep her at it!

There were so many wonderful things in this zine. I love the wordplay in "The Seduction of Virgins" by, cryptically enough, D.V.S. I like the image of Catberine convincing Vincent with logic and love. The "past lives" theory in "that Was Then" by Nina Thomas had me speculating on those other five men. (I'll resist adding that Nina is mistaken -- he should have nine other lives!) Ever first kiss was very special, every first time exquisitely wrought. Reading "Gray Dawn Breaking" by Elizabeth Bell made me think, of course, of the aired episode, "Remember Love." To see Father so accommodating in this story made the RL Father seem very selfish indeed.

It's kind of a private joke how many times the word "magnificent" -- ahem -- arises when dealing with Vincent. I think the writers must find it irresistible. I look for it in every "first time" story. Keep those "magnificent" coming!

I have to mention the lovely art. I loved your cover -- very atmospheric and unusual. Dragon's pieces were perfect for every story they appeared in - especially (you know what I'm going to say) the fabulous full-length on pg. 144. That one goes in my private scrapbook for sure! But C&V as Romeo and Juliet was sweet and the kissing close-up on pg. 94 made me sigh. Congrats on the lovely Caro Hedge borders. I especially liked the all-too-brief candles around pg. 57-60. But they are all so fitting and elegant that I won't complain.

P.S. Shall I just send along my pay check for the next dozen issues -- anything to make sure you keep publishing!!

I was recently at the "B&B" convention in L.A.... Just wanted you to know that I bought the zines for the art work but when I started to read ASP #2... I was very excited and very pleased to find Catherine and Vincent finally getting together. Your writers really are very creative and imaginative when it comes to conversation/discussions on the subject of love and sex between V & C. In fact, they've brought up fears on Vincent's part that I'd never even considered that he might have because I know how much Catherine loves and accepts him: fear of feeling Catherine might find his looks and his body sexually unappealing or even repugnant, fear that she might be disappointed because he's a virgin, and therefore, unexperienced.... The arguments between C & V and even Father for getting them together, finally, are absolutely fascinating, exciting and intriguing. My compliments to your writers... also to your poets and artists. P.S. What do you plan to do now that C & V will actually get together in the 3rd season and that C is going to be killed?

Issue 3

front cover of issue #3, Phyllis Amason

back cover of issue #3

A Secret Place 3 It was published in 1989 and contains 168 pages. Artwork: Phyliss Amason (front and back covers), Caro Hedge, Phyliss Amason, Vicky Kime-Macky, Dragon, Cheryl Meidinger-Carter of "Solar Winds" ("Solar Winds" is a pen name of two fans), Shellie Whild, Gayle F. Cover by Phyliss Amason.

From the editorial:

First of all, I want to thank everyone for their support both In purchasing and In contributing to ASP. Without you, there would be no zine to read. And, though a few of you have been quite disapproving in your comments about the zine, most everyone has been highly positive about ASP and its contents.

The entire reason I decided to print ASP in the form In which I do (extremely adult) is be- cause I wanted to read this kind of story. And, since I couldn't find what I wanted to read else-where, It seemed it was up to me to provide the kind of story for which I was looking. I do my best to forewarn everyone of the nature of ASP, to make sure they understand that this is not an anthology to read if you're touchy about explicit written love scenes. Yet, as I've said, some readers have been highly offended. I can do no more than I have done to let people know exactly what they are ordering when they purchase ASP. So, to those few of you who are still offended that I even print ASP, I simply request that you ignore the fact that I'm here. I truly mean no harm to anyone, least of all the characters or the show; so as long as I don't force you to read what I print, please don't take it upon yourself to try to stop me from printing it.

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I have a favor to ask all of you: please, In the future, do not order from me until you have received a flyer stating the zine is available! It's easy to make sure you know when the next issue of ASP is for sale... just make sure you have a # 10 (business size) SASE on file with me and you'll receive the next available flyer. The main reason for this request is that I don't want to owe anyone anything I may not be able to deliver. After all, this is a hobby and life happens.

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As you may have noticed already, I've included a LOC (Letter Of Comment) section in this issue. I hope it will serve to show the wide range of people who read ASP and what they think of it. It's a little uncomfortable for me to print such glowing letters, but since there seemed to be an interest in seeing some LOCs, I've done so. It's especially awkward for me when those letters cite my own writing. I want to give extra thanks to everyone who wrote saying how much they enjoyed "Dovya's" work, we both thank you!

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And I hope to continue printing a LOC sec-tion, so keep sending them in.

I hope to have ASP #4 available this June to premier at Koon-ut-CALI-CON here in San Diego June 14–16. The convention will be an adult convention, including "stralghf' adult and "slash" adult (stories about two men who are in love). There will be a lot of things to buy, many interesting panels to attend, fun things to do, a beach party, contests... and lots of California sunshine!

• Real by Cybel Harper (6)
• To be Proper by Neré Sago—To be proper, a young woman's beau meets her family, wins their respect, even asks permission to share her life... Catherine finds herself facing her father—and herself—on the matter of 'being proper' about her present 'beau'. (7)
• Through Light and Shadow by Marye Lynn Wexford—Catherine's having a costume party designed especially so that Vincent can meet her friends. But unfriendly forces are at work to see that the evening ends in upheaval and tragedy... (25)
• Melinda by Elaine Landman—The mysterious woman from Vincent's past is beautiful, friendly, curious, and intriguing... but her interest in Catherine isn't as innocent as it seems... (39)
• Amber by Cybel Harper (49)
• Crystal Demon by D.A. Martin (51)
• Day/Night by Gina Alkazian (52)
• The Secret Stairway by M. West—Tired of not being able to be together but for fleeting moments on her balcony or Below, Catherine goes about executing an elaborate plan that will enable her and Vincent to be together... always. (53)
• Sacrifices by Sue-Anne Hartwick (113)
• Winter's End by Cybel Harper (115)
• Make Love to the Night by Sue-Anne Hartwick (116)
• Daddy's Little Girl by Gina Alkazian—Charles Chandler was prepared for nearly any explanation of his daughter's unusual behavior over the past several months, any explanation but the one Catherine offers... (117)
• Saturday by Christine Woodford—It's a beautiful Saturday morning when Catherine wakes to find Vincent still with her, a Saturday which is spent in relaxation, companionship, and love... (135)
• Love's Song by Cybel Harper (163)
• Beauty and Beast by Wendy Rathbone (165)
• No Other by Cybel Harper (167)
• What Can I Say to You by Gina Alkazian (168)

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  inside issue #3, Cheryl Meidinger-Carter of "Solar Winds"

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  inside issue #3, Cheryl Meidinger-Carter of "Solar Winds"

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  inside issue #3, Cheryl Meidinger-Carter of "Solar Winds"

Reactions and Reviews: Issue 3

Cover art by Dragon is stunning.

Print Quality - 4.7

Proofreading - 2.2

Sexual Content - 4.7

Plot - 2.7

Character Integrity - 2.5

Believability - 1.7

This is one of the few zines with both front and back cover art. The Adult story lines continue in 'The Secret Staircase,' where Catherine renovates a house (and installs a stairway into the Tunnels) to help convince Vincent to consummate their love; 'Saturday,' which has Vincent staying over in Catherine's apartment and spending the day; and 'To Be Proper,' where in Vincent finally meets Catherine's father. In 'Melinda,' an ex-Tunnel dweller in love with Vincent returns and is upset to find that Vincent and Catherine are having an affair. Charles Chandler follows Catherine to the park entrance and soon discovers the world Below in 'Daddy's Little Girl.' Explicit sex.

I just read A SECRET PLACE #3. I want to commend you on your excellent work down on this fanzine.

Please send my thanks to M. West on the outstanding work done on "A Secret Stairway". Out of all the stories I have read, M. West has truly brought Catherine's and Vincent's relationship alive to me. Well done!

Also, the art done by Sharon Young was incredible. I hope these two fine talents will again appear in A SECRET PLACE #4 which I wish to order as soon as it becomes available to the public.

Keep up the good work!

[Editor's note: lid like to M. West and 'Solar WindsI in another issue of ASP, too!]

Enjoyed A SECRET PLACE #3 very much especially "The Secret Stairway". That drawing next to page 56 -- oh my god! Hope the artist does more for you! Just took my breath away and definitely carbonated my hormones! (What is "Solar Winds" -- another zine? Any idea where to get that one?)

Would you consider printing my address in a future issue? I would dearly love to correspond with other B&B fans -- I seem to be the only one locally. Have posted signs in the comic book stores, taken out an ad in the paper -- all to no avail. Even my local CBS affiliate says I'm the only one to call about B&B not being on the fall schedule! Feel like I'm living in Outer Mongolia! So hearing from other fans of the show (& A SECRET PLACE) would make my day! And if by chance there is anyone in the immediate area out there\ I would. especially love to get in contact with you! Promise to answer everybody who writes. Look forward to hearing from you.

I just finished #3 and I have this stupid silly grin on my face! I've learned not to read it in public my breathing gets too heavy! Please don't let any negative input (especially regarding the intimate scenes keep you from putting out this zine. I canlt believe people donlt understand the nature of ASP before ordering I certainly did, in fact, it was one of the main reasons I first tried ASP. If it had been like other so-called sexy zines that are basically porno with media overtones I would never have gotten #2 and now #3! These sexy stories but always true to the characters and, I think. to the spirit of romance. Dragon had some lovely pieces in #3. The cover is to die for -- so intense. And the "Getting-out-of-bed-and-wondering-where-Catherine-is" on p. 166 was definitely a favorite! I also loved the Solar Winds art. I'll bet we won't see their p. 11A illo in any upcoming calendars! The wedding portrait was wonderful -- the rings were a sweet touch. All the stories were. as expected. lush and romantic. Christine Woodford's "Saturday" was a stand- out. Vincent in the shower! Another delicious read was M. West's "Secret Stairway." The scene on the landing was -- ooh baby -- intense! I'd love to read about the honeymoon. Let me know when #4 is due... Part of me wants you to hurry hurry so I can read the next one. The other part says take your time and put out a truly fabulous issue. You work it out -- I'm too confused.

A Secret Place Three is wonderful reading. The stories were excellently written. I loved the art work, especially the drawing of Vincent and Catherine in the nude, and the picture of both of them in poise. The poetry was very moving in feelings.... I have enjoyed everything I have read.

I have just finished reading A Secret Place #3 and had to let you know that I enjoyed it very much. I don't find anything objectionable in it and those who do certainly have enough (PG) zines around to choose from (I enjoy both). Anyone prude enough to criticize your efforts has certainly not been reading any best sellers lately. They pack more grunting and moaning, etc in the first 10 pages than you have in any story. I also like that each has a little story to it, not just sex for sex sake. I particularly liked "The Secret Stairway" (although it was a bit long) and "Saturday". "To Be Proper" had a good premise but wanted a lot more description ... Nere Sago would be well advised to expand upon and develop her ideas in greater detail. They could be great. I was very impressed with the art work. Both covers are terrific and I love the illustrations by Solar Winds especially the wedding picture on 110B. The poetry was good as well, gently in keeping with the spirit of the show and its characters Enjoying it as much as I did, I am enclosing a check for ASP #1,2 and 4. I never could make up my mind so I'll take them all (the new pair of shoes can wait for next month). Thanks and keep up the good work.

Thank you so much for sending me "ASP #3". It was fantastic! I love the storylines, they are different to any others I have already read. The art work is wonderful I particularly like. the front cover and all Dragon's other work. The general layout of "ASP" is so professional compared to most of the other zines I have seen. You must work so hard-- thank you for keeping our dream for Vincent and Catherine alive.

I was particularly impressed with the speed in which the zine reached me [in Germany]. I had received it within two weeks of writing to you! Thank you for taking the agony out of waiting! I am hooked now and would be so grateful if you could send me "ASP #4". Please keep up the good work -- good luck to you and all your talented writers. You have made a devoted fan very happy.

Thank you for my copy of ASP #3 and also the missing page from #2.

I read with interest the LOCs. Most of the letters are so good I wouldn't presume to try to compare, but I would like to say that I love the ASP zines - hence my rush to get the next one. (I couldn't believe the woman who was shocked to find explicit sex in an adult zine). My thanks and congratulations to all concerned.

Issue 4

front cover of issue #4, Jean Kluge -- from the zine's editorial: "I want to especially thank Jean Kluge for granting me the print rights for the beautiful little Vincent on the cover of this issue. I bought the original at IDICon in Houston in October of 1988 with only a glimmering of a hope that I could print it... and, thanks to Jean's generosity, I can share it with all of you. (I'm fairly sure she has... or at least had... prints available."

A Secret Place 4 was published in 1989 and contains 146 pages. Art: Alayne, Edith Crowe, Dragon, J. Ley, Kay Wells. Color cover by Jean Kluge.

[from the editorial]: Many people seem to think zine editing is a business and are surprised when they are not treated with the "professionalism" which they are expecting. Zine editing (or anything connected to zines such as writing or drawing) is a HOBBY. It must come after life considerations such as a job, a family, health, pets... life itself. I (and most zine editors) do this for fun. Letters such as those I mentioned briefly in item 2 above do not make producing a zine fun; they make it a pain in the ass, to be quite frank. We are in this for the enjoyment, please try to keep that in mind when corresponding with any zine editor. Remember, she's as much a fan of the show as you... she wouldn't be doing her zine otherwise... and is not producing a zine for the purpose of ripping anyone off.

• Editorial (5)
• The First Lesson by Ann Hart (6)
• A Promising Disappearance by DVS—Finding Catherine's apartment empty and sensing a vague unhappiness through their bond, Vincent sets about discovering just where Catherine has gone... (7)
• Soul of an Angel by Gina Alkazian (31)
• Destiny by Cybel Harper (32)
• The Beast Within by Gaia Propylaea—Wandering the depths of the tunnels, an accident brings Vincent and Catherine face-to-face with the inevitable possibilities of their relationship... (33)
• When We Awake by Cybel Harper (45)
• Tunnels by Crystal Hart (46)
• The Power of Love by Anita M. Hooson—Finding the ambiguous nature of their relationship too frustrating to withstand, Catherine takes drastic steps to force Vincent's hand... (47)
• The Crystal and the Rose by Gina Alkazian (58)
• Gifts by Margaret Chase—A lesson in loving between two established lovers... (59)
• Otherworld: Catherine's Poem by Ann Hart (65)
• Escape by Crystal Hart (66)
• A Knight to Remember by 'Nea Dodson—Upset over Michael's attraction to Catherine, Vincent discovers the truth behind Catherine's loyalty and love... (67)
• Until the Dawn by Ann Hart (73)
• The Light of My Life by Gina Alkazian (74)
• She's Waiting by Dovya Blacque—Mouse has a few words for Vincent about love... (75)
• A Dream Come True by Gina Alkazian—The bond that unites Catherine and Vincent in dangerous times proves to be just as strong during times of certain other intense emotions... (77)
• The Other Side by Cybel Harper (88)
• Vicent's Lament by Crystal Hart (89)
• Endings by Ann Hart (90)
• Home from the Sea by Anne Evans—Catherine is certain Vincent never wants to see her again; Vincent is certain he is doing the best thing for Catherine in keeping her at arm's length. It takes some time apart and a little intervention by a caring brother to set things right... (91)
• Blessings by Cybel Harper (105)

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Reactions and Reviews: Issue 4

Besides more first-time stories, this volume contains some of Dragon's most well-known pieces of artwork. Stories include: 'A Promising Disappearance,' in which Catherine disappears (her father kidnaps her for a much needed vacation) and in Vincent's search for her, he meets Joe,Edie and Charles Chandler; and 'The Beast Within' has Catherine and Vincent going for a walk after leaving a wedding of Tunnel friends. The walk results in their first kiss and more. In 'The Gifts' Catherine teaches Vincent the ways of physical love and in 'A Dream Come True,' Vincent shares Catherine's erotic dreams. The longest story, 'Home From The Sea,' is set in the aftermath of 'The Outsiders.' Catherine misunderstands Vincent's intentions and believes he doesn't want to see her again. Meanwhile, Elliot Burch is one of her father's new clients and he is trying to get Elliot and Catherine together. Devin is featured and saves the day. Explicit sex.

I thought the ones in #4 were better [than the illos in #3] -- especially the one by "Dragon" on page 70... I did like the illustration on the cover of #4, by Jean Kluge. I've seen prints of her work in Art Shows at Science Fiction Conventions, and I congratulate you on a fantastic choice for the cover art work. And thanks to Jean too! .... It was interesting to read your "advice to readers". As a person who has been involved with Star Trek, Dr. Who and other fandom for a while, it's funny (weird) to see some of the same problems developing with new fan groups. Some of the same divisiveness also seems to be invading "B&B" fandom due to the changes to the premise and the reactions to this. There will always be people who think they have a proprietary interest in a program or phenomena and want to control it for others. It seems we can't just enjoy a thing for itself and then let it go when it ends -- a philosophy which has some relevance to the "tunnel world".... I see you're planning future issues of "ASP" and I'll be interested in the new stories, which I'm sure will explore even more of Catherine and Vincent's relationship (and with the new direction of the series -- even others?). Unlike a number of other fans, I actually found the new direction rather interesting (after getting over Catherine's "death"). The new characters (Diana and Gabriel) and the increased involvement of the "old" characters (Joe and Elliot), really gave some new depth to the series. I'm sorry CBS decided to cancel it and hope it will be picked up by another cable or broadcast network, but I don't think there will be much chance of this. Lifetime may rerun the episodes already filmed, but the production costs are too high for them to produce new episodes themselves. Well, until it reappears, your fanzine is fulfilling a need. Hope you don't burn out for a while yet!

I know my letters to "A Secret Place" must all sound the same but I have such a good time reading them that when I'm writing to tell you how much I like the newest one. I'mm all adither to get everything on paper! As that last unwieldy sentence must attest! ASP #4 was certainly up to your excellent standards. I love the mix of stories -- from a yacht race to a yummy after-an-episode love scene. It was wonderful to see old friends like Devin and Edie (especially delightful!). "A Promising Disappearance" was a lot of fun -- both Joe and Edie get to meet Vincent in the same story. DVS got both of their reactions perfect! I can't say enough about the fabulous art. I knew it was going to be a great issue when I saw the Kluge color cover. So guiltily enough I flipped through to see what else was in store. Dragon's piece on page 70 was thrilling! My first thought was if only she'd used a slightly longer piece of paper! And Edith Crowe's piece was so intense -- what a pose! As always. Caro Hedge's borders are the perfect complement to the stories. I loved all the flowers and twining vines as well as the crystals. both natural and set into jewelry. I can't wait to see what you come up with next!

Just also wanted to let you know how much I enjoyed ASP #4; it seems each issue gets better than the one before. I especially liked the final story by Anne Evans, "Home From The Sea". Devin has always been a fascinating character, and I enjoy stories that include him. And that final scene, dynamite! I also liked the story "A Dream Come True" by Gina Alkazian. It does cause one to wonder, if Vincent feels everything Catherine does, even a kiss from Michael or Elliot, he would surely feel it if she masturbated. And since we can assume that she hasn't even dated anyone else since Elliot.... l've seen the subject touched on by others, but never as well as in this story.

I just finished ASP #4. Again another book well done! My favorite story was "The Beast Within". I also liked "Home From The Sea" but I did find it a little long. Many thanks.

Thanks so much for letting me know about "A Secret Place #4". Thank goodness this zine is out there! It helps to get through all the depressing rumors and just general lack of B&B on the air. Thank you!

Issue 5

cover of issue #5, A.V. Whild

A Secret Place 5 contains 160 pages and was published in 1989. Artwork: Vincent portrait cover by A.V. Whild; art by J. Ley, Dragon, Arlene Geller, Rita Terrell, Sharon Reynolds.

The editorial is a long one. It addresses three things. The first part is about the power of fandom and the ability of fanworks to rewrite things the way fans want them to be. See I see no need to allow the decisions of the ever-shortsighted network sheep to effect me, my zine, or how I feel.... The second part is the editor's views on the third season of the show. The third part is about the content of this zine:

I want to apologize for not being able to respond individually to the many of you have written, asking what I think of the 3rd season and all the hoopla surrounding it. I have heard from countless people about how upset they are at Catherine's death. I know most of you are appalled and reject the very idea. My personal opinion on the matter is a minority opinion and I will simply state it by saying I loved the 3rd season mostly because we got to see more of what I watched the show for in the first place: Vincent. I loved seeing the show take on new aspects of life, I liked the inclusion of Diana a lot, I enjoyed seeing more of Elliot Burch (come on, anyone else think Vincent saved him from the boat and just doesn't remember?), Joe Maxwell and Father. That all does not mean that I feel any less attachment to Catherine and the relationship sh;-;nd Vincent share(d), as evidenced by the continuation of ASP.

In this issue.. I'd like you all to keep in mind as you read the stories herein that things are not always as they appear to be. Surprises can jump out at the strangest times in a story.... Just remember that as you read along and don't give up on a story because it might appear to be something you don't care to read.

I look forward to more submissions for #6, #7, #8.... Send a #10 SASE for guidelines and deadlines. This is your zine, perhaps more than it is mine. Feel free to fill it with your visions...

• Letters of Comment (3)
• Remember Love by Cybel Harper (10)
• This Palace of Dim Light by Rebecca Eschliman—Everyone says Vincent has lost the fight with his darker self... everyone except Catherine who, with Narcissa's help, fights to prove she's right... (11)
• The Beginning by J.A.M.--It's Christmas and Catherine has been invited Below to share the festivities. Little does she know that she's being asked Below to become part of that world... (21)
• Nature's Child by Sue-Anne Hartwick (45)
• Tell Me by Kassandra (46)
• Completion by Gaia Propylaea—Fighting his darker half in the bowels of the tunnel world, Vincent calls for the woman he loves... and when she comes to him, they discover a truth they've both known for far too long... (49)
• Imgination is Everything by Kassandra (71)
• Sweet Dreams by Kriss Farver—After a hard day working in the tunnels, Vincent discovers an invitation to dinner in his chamber. It is from Catherine... Meanwhile, Catherine has some very specific plans for her evening with the man she loves... (80)
• Fear/Joy by Sue-Anne Hartwick (107)
• Wondrous Knight by Mia C. (109)
• To Be Touched by Sue-Anne Hartwick (111)
• Cry for the Children by Jeanie Humphrey—The words of a sick old man remain in Vincent's subconscious from the time of his childhood, staining his relationship with Catherine... until he learns that only love can heal a wound this deep... (112)
• The Memory of Music by Dovya Blacque (139)
• Promise of Today by Jessica—It has been some time since Catherine died in a car accident when a strange woman comes Below with news of how and why she died, bringing feelings to the surface of Vincent's soul he thought long faded from existence... (140)

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Reactions and Reviews: Issue 5

Volume 5 contains a variety of Adult story lines. Two stories, 'In This Place Of Dim Light' and 'Completion,' are centered around what happened in the cave. In 'For The Children,' Vincent and Catherine finally consummate their love, only to have Vincent decide it was a mistake. When Joe tries to console Catherine with dinner and wine, the evening almost ends with them in bed. Just in time she realizes it's Vincent he longing for. 'Promises Of Today' has Vincent trying to come to terms with his grief over Catherine's death in a car accident after detectives come to the Tunnels to deliver a letter left behind by Catherine. Vincent realizes there is something strange yet familiar about the young woman and decides to find out her mysterious secret. Explicit sex.

Well, you've done it again! ASP #5 is amazing. I especially enjoyed Kassandra's poems. They really captured the feelings between C & V.

I'm glad to see you have not rejected the 3rd season. We here in NY recently got to see the unaired three episodes which I felt were the best of the 3rd season. I anxiously await to see what your contributors have in store for Vincent and Diana. I am of the firm belief that Vincent deserves to love and be loved... by anybody.

Just finished ASP V. Absolutely fantastic!! Again I have made the right choice in purchasing your zine.

Bravo to A. V. Whild for the cover art. I felt as though Vincent was looking straight through me! One of the best I have seen to date (if not the best!). And Dragon -- what can I say!!! Page 44 was smoldering!!!!!

I enjoyed all of the stories, but I think my favorite was 'The Beginning". I really enjoyed the fact that Vincent finally initiated their first contact without Catherine threatening or cajoling; that he could resolve his fears and doubts and come to her of his own accord. Bravo, JAM!

Thanks again for such a delightful issue of ASP. Zines like yours are such a lifeline during this Beastless time. Your editorial was especially heartening -- more ASPs! Long term enthusiasm! And I agree with you completely that Elliot's death may be "greatly exaggerated"! After all, they didn't find the body, did they, hmmm?

The stories in #5 were, as always, a treat with "The Beginning" by J.A.M. being a favorite. Too bad you couldn't do a color illo of Vincent in his new blue cashmere cape -- ooh la la! "Sweet Dreams" by Kriss Farver was another great read, her illo and the twining border being perfect complements. Liked the idea that they were both afraid of rejection and had to work through that.

Jeanie Humphrey's "Cry For The Children" was a thoughtful change of pace. lt was hard to see Vincent reacting so angrily to their first time. And then to see Cathy and Joe nearly get together -- whew! I this story had better have a damm fine pay-off -- and I certainly wasn't disappointed.

And, finally, Jessica's story, "Promise Of Today", was a great bring-'er-back-alive story -- very satisfying.

The art in this issue was up to your usual high standards -- Dragons' pieces always steam up my contacts! The sitting-by-the-jacuzzi on page 44 was especially nice. The cover by Whild looked good enough to touch. I'm sorry Caro isn't doing your borders any longer but I'm glad you still use tbem, even from a book. They always help brighten up the pages and the ends of stories and make me feel like I'm reading a pricey medieval tome (discovered in the church of St. Vincent on Catherine's Isle no doubt).

Thank you so much for sending me ASP #5. It was wonderful. The story I especially liked was 'The Beginning" -- it was perfect!

Issue 6

cover of issue #6, Marilyn Cole

from issue #6, Barbara Gipson

A Secret Place 6 was published in 1990 and contains 157 pages.

The art is by Judy Ley, Kriss Farver, Barbara Gipson, and Dragon. Marilyn Cole is the front cover artist.

• Server Soul by Dovya Blacque (10)
• Dance With Me, Vincent by Joanne Gillmeister ("A beautiful New Year's Eve, some candlelight, champagne and Catherine... the perfect setting for seduction.") (11)
• Unfinished Symphony by Kate Sheridan vThe beginnings of a friendship for which both Vincent and Diana doubt either is quite yet prepared.") (25)
• The Path Chosen by Anita Hooson ("Catherine's illness in the morning is only one indication of some extremely important changes that are about to take place in her life.") (29)
• In Dreams by Dovya Blacque (59)
• Beauty by Cybel Harper (60)
• Flight Into Darkness by Jeanie Humphrey ("Catherine's attraction to the "Beast" inside Vincent causes some difficult and painful problems.") (61)
• The Morning After by Jessica ("What really did happen last night? Father can't seem to remember... nor can Vincent. And then Catherine starts to remind Vincent of all that passed between them.") (107)
• Stasis by Dovya Blacque (119)
• For A Moment I Allowed Myself To Dream, Catherine by Kassandra (120)
• A Stroke of Fate by Gaia Propylaea ("Devin's surprise appearance mere days before Catherine and Vincent's wedding, affords Catherine a wonderful opportunity to learn more abut her future husband's past.") (121)

Reactions and Reviews: Issue 6

See reactions and reviews for Unfinished Symphony.

[zine]: A variety of Vincent and Catherine in sexual relationship stories and poems. Nice art. Does contain one 3-page Diana and Vincent (non-sexual) romance story that is clearly labeled for those who wish to skip it. Explicit sex.

I really enjoyed ASP #6. The cover art was lovely, and the stories were very well-written as well. I especially liked "Flight Into Darkness '; it was shocking and powerful, and dealt with some things I had never seen addressed in fan fiction before. "The Morning After" was great as well, especially that last line. "One glass and I don't remember a thing the next morning"; I love It! As for the poetry, I loved all of it, but Kassandra's piece made me cry, I was so moved by it. "In Dreams" was also incredible; if I had to pick my favorite two poems It would be those two.

ASP #6 was another great issue. I'm glad that you're willing to print all different kinds of stories, from a third season one to the violence of "Flight lnto Darkness". They may not be everyone's cup of tea, but having every story follow a similar format can get a little boring. (Though I have to admit with the calibre of your writers, I certainly haven't tired of all those "first time" stories; Vincent is a very lucky man; he's lost his virginity so many times, and each time it is fresh and new and exciting.)

My personal favorite in this issue was Jessica's 'The Morning After". Fantastic use of humor, especially in the byplay between Vincent and Father!

I also wanted to thank Dragon and J. Ley for the wonderful artwork with which you adorned my story, "A Stroke Of Fate". I also liked B. Gipson's piece on p. 68. That one and Dragon's drawing on p 146 were marvelous in Vincent's brooding expressions.

#6 was most enjoyable. I liked tlie story about the Dark sicle. This was very well handled. I thought the story with Diana not to my personal taste as I think you know, but I did think it well written and rather sweet. I do realize that there are many people who prefer V&C and I do who, howl at anything V&D. But I believe everyone is entitled to their own views -- I can't remember who said viv'la difference.

I wanted to comment on ASP #6. I was absolutely mesmerized by "Flight Into Darkness". I'd wondered what was causing Vincent to become the Beast so often. To discover that it was Catherine's placing herseff in danger and the fact that their bond had become stronger with their physical relationship, causing Vincent's animal instincts to become more pronounced... well, how intriguing! The description of Catherine's sex with the Other was very intense: "It snatched them up in a gripping vise and slammed them back to reality with a shuddering crash." Great writing. The entire story had a rough, electric edge to it that was very exciting... to say nothing of the romance and passion that V&C usually have with each other.

"Sever Soul", "In Dreams" and "Stasis" were all just beautiful.... Kassandra's "For A Moment I Allowed Myself To Dream Catherine" was also beautiful.

"A Stroke of Fate" was absolutely special: Devin & Vincent's boyhood memories, Vincent & Catherine's wedding....

Loved Marilyn Cole's cover... and Dragon's Vincent on page 146.

Just wanted to let you know that as usual, you've come through again. "ASP #6" was just great. I started reading it as soon as I got home from work and read it from cover to cover -- I even forgot to eat dinner.

They still haven't shown the 3rd season's episodes here in Germany, so I've only seen pictures of Diana in articles in other magazines. After reading IIUnfinished Symphonytt, I'm more impatient than ever to see season 3.

I finally saw "Though Lovers Be Lost", but only because I bought the video. I knew that C and V were finally going to consummate their love and I fantasized a lot about the way they would come together, but I can't tell you how disappointed I was with the way it was finally presented on the show. I had to watch the tape a couple of times to make out what actually happened. Thank God for ASP! At least I can run back to them and see C and V together the way they should have been.

Thanks for another great issue of "ASP". Yours is the zine I look forward to the most in B&B fandom. The stories are always intriguing and imaginative. One of the most intriguing stories of #6 was Jeanie Humphrey's "Flight Into Darkness". Catherine's attraction to Vincent's dark side was believable -- even likely given the frequency she encounters it. I'm glad she brought out the fact that Cathy must have grown to expect Vincent whenever she got into trouble -- even deliberately endangering herself to draw Vincent out. I liked the resolution of this story, too.

Also very much enjoyed the return of Devin in "A Stroke Of Fate" by Gaia Propylaea. He's always a favorite character and it was good to see some of his loose ends tied up, especially his relationship with Father.

The page borders in this issue by Farver were a real stand-out. The quill and candles one was lovely as was the swirls and fluttering

hearts. The art otherwise was all right no heart stoppers though the cover was very nice, very soft and romantic.

I feel I should tell you that I was somewhat disappointed with #6. "A Stroke Of Fate" was the story I really enjoyed and especially disliked "Flight Into Darkness" I have no desire to see Vincent's "dark side" exhibited towards Catherine no matter what the explanation.

First of all, I want to thank you, most sincerely, for the countless hours of pleasure that you have given me with your "ASP" series... I don't think that I need to tell you just how many fantasies you have helped fulfill with this zine. I was very upset when I read in your editorial that you have become a target of some hostility because of what you chose to publish. My first reaction was that these people haven't been paying attention to the message of the past three years they haven't been listening. It is truly a sin that the editors, authors and artists of our fandom have been subjected to any type of abuse whatsoever... after all, you are the ones who are helping to keep the dream alive and we are very grateful, indeed.

However, Alayne, I absolutely bristled when I read your statement " what is, after all, only a television show". I'm sorry, but anyone who feels that way is missing out on so many levels of this series... you just don't understand. This series has changed so many lives forever (mine included) that to trivialize its importance brings out the she-lion in many of us -- we are very defensive and protective of our Beast. Please be gentle when you place any type of boundaries around our fantasy... it is not only a television show. It is a concept, a beginning, a promise, a blossoming, a sanctuary of classical values, a safe place... it is hope and lover personified. And those of us who have watched with our hearts will never be the same.

[EDITOR'S NOTE: I do understand, Linda. My point in saying "it's only a television show" was not to put anyone down, only to offer some perspective. I am thrilled than many, many people have found light and hope and love through this show. I am not belittling the results of the show. I was only pointing out that it is a television show and, no matter how much it has effected people, it is not something to attack one another over. Quite the contrary.]

Issue 7

cover of issue #7, KOZ

A Secret Place 7 was published in 1990 and contains 157 pages. Art by Judy Ley, S. Leonard, Barbara Gipson, Kriss Farver, Dragon, Anja Gruber and KOZ (front cover).

This issue's editorial was a lengthy and complicated one:

I received 12 copies of Kate Sheridan's story back, some without comment, some torn to pieces. I received a lot of letters telling me these pages would be torn from the zine. Most of these letters also stated that any such comment ' -- in fact any part of the letter -- was not for publication. Some of these letters didn't say anything about my printing them in this column. However, I have taken the liberty of not printing these letters. Please see my editorial on the following pages for further discussion of this topic.

Gelfand followed this statement with a strongly worded editorial, one which informed fans that the zine series, A Secret Place, was going on a hiatus, and therefore pushing back its production schedule until the following year. See I am not immune to grief over the death of a fictional character..

• Directions by Roberta Swinson — The voice spoke to Vincent of Catherine's spirit and how it would return to him... but he wasn't quite prepared for the sight that greeted him when he was drawn to a strange hospital room.. (11)
• To Journey Beneath the Earth by Gaia Propylaea —To escape the oppressive heat Above, Catherine accepts Vincent's invitation to spend more time Below exploring the mysteries of his world... (17)
• Evermore by Joan Ann Mrazik — Elliot Burch, finally released from protective custody, seeks out Vincent... only to find he's not the only one who's death had been greatly exaggerated... (49)
• The Dark Side by Kassandra (81)
• The Heart of Childhood by Jessica — It's Winterfest and something is bothering Mouse... Father and Vincent ask Catherine to see if she can urge the boy to talk... (83)
• Sweet Dreams, Part 2 by Kriss Farver — After their night of discovery, Catherine and Vincent take a vacation Below... (91)
• We Belong by Mia C. (127)
• To Believe in Faery Tales by Sandra Orr — Catherine comes back to consciousness after her attack to find her mysterious doctor — Vincent Wells — nowhere to be found; only rumors exist and her father's and Peter Alcott's amazing stories of the doctor who saved her life... (128)

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Reactions and Reviews: Issue 7

More Vincent and Catherine stories. Also contains the second part of 'Sweet Dreams,' begun in ASP 5. Beautiful borders and an especially sexy art piece by Kriss Farver. Explicit sex.

I just received ASP 7, and your editorial in the front. I just want to say that I cannot get enough of stories of Vincent and Diana! I enjoyed third season, and thought that Diana was a lovely woman, and would be perfect for Vincent. They shared similarities, too. Both were quiet, and had empathic, or in her case psychic, abilities and both tended to be rather solitary beings. I wanted the series to go on with the two of them becoming companions and lovers. It was not to be.

I am sick until death of all of the She IS NOT DEAD stories floating around and have about decided to not waste my money on any more zines with that sort of story line (if I know before hand). I have not been buying as many zines either because of that very thing. I have friends who feel the same way about it. They crave stories, Deb Hicks for instance and Lucy Green, Kathy Cox and Taerie L. Bryant with her Jacob, are some that come to mind. I do not lend these zines out because I treasure them too much! Nothing boring there, not in those zines! They have good writing in them, too. I know for a fact that Lucy Green has had hurtful things said and done (one woman wrote that she had torn the zine up and thrown it across the room when she discovered Diana in it) to her because of her zine.

It is very funny, because I and my friends who love Diana don't mind reading good stories involving Catherine and Vincent. We don't scream, write nasty letters, make threatening phone calls or whatever, we feel that we all should be allowed to read what pleases us, to be able to enjoy reading about the love of Vincent and Diana, and that is not fair, nor is it kind, nor is it in the spirit of the series!

Now, I do not know if there are Vincent and Diana stories in this issue (ASP 7) or not, but I hope so. What a treat it will be for me. If not I will read the other stories and be happy to have them.

Thanks for letting me sound off on this subject that has some of us fuming!

Issue 8

cover of issue #8, Dragon

A Secret Place 8 It was published in May 1991 and contains 164 pages. Art information: Barbara Gipson, Kriss Farver (borders), Judy Ley, Dragon (cover).

• Catherine, at Night by Dovya Blacque (1)
• Walls of Brick and Stone by Pamela D. Davis (11)
• Writing Grief by Dovya Blacque (47)
• Enchanting Vincent by Dovya Blacque (49)
• Another Season by Lori A. Meyers (51)
• You Dreamt by Kassandra (71)
• The Rites of Spring by Trinette L. Kern (75)

Reactions and Reviews: Issue 8

Volume 8 in this series contains a nice mix of stories and poetry. There is a delightful first-time story well as the novelette, Rites of Spring, wherein Edie meets Vincent. Explicit sex. Gorgeous artwork.

Issue 9

cover of issue #9, Barbara Gipson

A Secret Place 9 was published in September 1991 and contains 113 pages. Art information: Vincent-in-blue-jeans cover by Barbara Gipson; interior art by Gipson, Jackie Kapke, Alayne, Deb Base-Smith, Lee.

This zine differs from the others in the series in that about half of the contents is poetry, there is no editorial, nor any letters of comment, and about a quarter of the art is photo montages of publicity photos and screencaps from the show.

• Catherine's Longing by Jackie Kapke (5)
• Tomorrow Will Come, Diana, poem by Kassandra (19)
• The Hush of Silence, poem by Dovya Blacque (25)
• Months After, poem by Dovya Blacque (27)
• You Have the Right, poem by Kassandra (28)
• Truly Together by Annalisa Castaldo (29)
• Lover, At Last, poem by Jackie Kapke (41)
• Explorations, poem by Kassandra (45)
• Wither Thou Goest... by DeBorah Maureen Eaton (49)
• Dreams Last Night, poem by Dovya Blacque (57)
• Differences, poem by Kassandra (59)
• You Purred for Me, poem by Kassandra (60)
• In Sight of Shangri-la by Dovya Blacque (61)
• The Rival by Annalisa Castaldo (95)

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Reactions and Reviews: Issue 9

This zine contains a variety of stories and poems dealing with the sexual relationship of Vincent. Diana appears in one moving piece of poetry. Mention is made of Vincent's brief sexual relationship with a Tunnel-dweller in his youth. Lovely art. Explicit sex.

Boy,where do I begin?

One reason I have for writing is that by now you're probably aware that some of ASP 9's have 2 page 55's and no page 41's. Therefore, I'm writing for myself and my girlfriend who'd also just received ASP 9. It'll save her from writing you also and you from opening and then mailing another letter if you wouldn't mind just sending to me in the enclosed SASE 2page 41's for ASP 9, OK? Thanks!

The other reason I had to write was because of your editorial in ASP 9 that it might be the final issue of ASP because of lack of submissions. Sadness still mingles with my shock! I just can't imagine BATB without ASP!

All I can tell you is that I would rather have ASP either publish less often or even as a digest-sized zine than to see it disappear completely. All your pubs have always been quality, and these 2 ideas would not mean a change in that.

Please do not feel you would be letting anybody down if you are unable to continue ASP; what you al- ready have given us has been fantastic! ASP was, is, and always will be a classic in BATB fandom, regardless of how many BATB zines are out there.

But, I'm the eternal optimist, so rm assuming there will be an ASP 10... and I'm sending you a SASE for a flyer for it.

I enjoyed the artwork, as usual, in ASP 9. Nice to see some new names. Jackie Kapke's art always intrigues me; she draws very strong and imposing Vincent's. And Gipson's work is always great -- her cover was especially scrumptious.

[EDITOR'S NOTE: It seems that not only did about 25 copies of ASP #9 go out with 2 page 55's and no page 4l's... but another 100 copies of #9 went out without pages 32-42! If you received one of these damaged copies, please return it and a new, complete zine will be sent. Sorry!)

I cannot begin to express how very pleased I am with ASP #9. This seems to me a return to the excellence that was every issue before #8, which you know my opinion -- I dare say, published it! The talent of each writer showcased in #9 is astounding, and I would not know where to start in praising them individually. A truly remarkable creative achievement, for the authors and the editor. Cudos!

...I am glad you accepted my commentary on the last issue for what it was, an opinion, and are not holding it against me. As we continue our relationship as writer-editor, and as friends, I hope ASP will continue in its tradition of quality and beauty for years to come. I would like to remain a part of that tradition.

Issue 10

cover of issue #10, Jim Garrison

A Secret Place 10 was published in 1992 and contains 176 pages.

The art is by Sandy (Chandler) Shelton, Kriss Farver, Judy Ley, DeBorah Maureen Eaton, Barbara Gipson, Jim Garrison, and GEM.

This issue contains a letter of complaint by a fan, and the editor's response. Read it here.

From the editorial:

"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to speak of many things..." Of good times and good friends, of tunnels and caverns, of sonnets and melodious voices, of beautiful people -- human and otherwise, of romance and dreams... and goodbyes.

It is time to say good-bye to all of you. This is the final issue of A SECRET PLACE.

Why? There are many, many reasons, none of which are important in of themselves, but in combination, they have lead [sic] me to the only possible decision: to stop production of ASP.

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...thank you to my faithful readers: without you ASP would never have gotten past issue #1. I do feel like I'm letting you down... and I apologize for that... but some disappointments are unavoidable.

As I've stated in the LOC column, there is really no possibility of me taking up editorship of ASP again. And all unused SASEs I've had on file either have been or will be returned. However, I do have one project in the works that will be B&B associated. It's very different from ASP and I'm sure many of you will not be interested... but some of you may be intrigued, so.... The project is a novel by Flamingo entitled CURSE OF BLACK OPAL. It is a MIAMI VICE/BEAUTY 5c THE BEAST "cross-over" story (in which the two "universes" interact) and involves extensive and explicit same-sex relationships (although this is a Vincent/Catherine story as well). If you are interested in receiving more details when they become available, please send a #10 SASE and I will send a flyer.

As for ASP #10 -- I want to thank everyone who came through with submissions when I most needed them (even those whose manuscripts were not accepted -- I appreciate the effort!), especially those of you in England who submitted. And a very special thanks to Gwen Lord for lighting the fire that inspired so many British B&B fans to submit to ASP #10.

Of particular note in this issue are the two male contributors: David Crowther (from England) and Jim Garrison (who, as stated in the LOC column, I've worked with before).

I truly think #10 is a wonderful collection of loving, romantic, stories, some with very unique slants to them, and hope you all agree.

The time I once allotted to ASP will now be devoted to another project, so I will be unable to respond to any B&B mail. However, I will welcome any LOCs you might care to send, even though they won't be shared as they have been in the past.

• Fires by David A. Crowther (8)
• Distant Sands by Pamela D. Davis ("The revenge of an Arabian sheik takes Vincent and Devin halfway around the world on a search for the missing Catherine... with the grudging assistance of Elliot Burch...") (9)
• To Keep You Safe and Warm by DeBorah Maureen Eaton (31)
• How Came We Here? by Kassandra (43)
• Ties That Bind by K.J. Morgia (45)
• Do I Dare? by DeBorah Maureen Eaton (56)
• Dare to Dream by DeBorah Maureen Eaton ("Vincent's increasing confusion over his emotions for Catherine cause him to seek Father's advice... who sends him to the source for his answers...") (57)
• Night of Beauty by Robbie Sturm (64)
• Let Me Love You by Sylvia Sutton (65)
• New Horizons by Christine Cunningham (71)
• That Subtle Knot by Annalisa Gastaldo ("With Vincent under the weather, Catherine comforts him by reading some of his favorite books aloud... but one too many tragic love stories forces her hand in her own unfinished love story.") (113)
• Myth by Janet M. Aspinall ("A newly adopted kitten causes concern and soul searching that eventually leads Catherine to a discussion about Vincent's origins.") (121)
• Kiss Me by Kassandra (137)
• Origins by Gaia Propylaea and Patti Astore (139)

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Reactions and Reviews: Issue 10

My check for ASP #10 is enclosed.

I've so enjoyed your series and am sorry to see it come to an end. Thanks very much for all the hard work, effort, and dedication you put into creating and maintaining this series for so many of us over the past few years.

Best wishes for success with your future projects! And if ASP ever resumes publication, I hope you'll keep me on your mailing list.

[EDITOR'S NOTE: I truly appreciate Linda's and everyone else's good wishes and hopes that ASP will return. At this point, there really is no possibility of ASP reviving under my editorship. All SASEs will be -- havebeen -- returned but I am not erasing my mailing list. If anything B&B ever does come my way again, I will have everyone's address on file.]

I want you to know that it has been a pleasure to buy and read this excellent series of zines called A SECRET PLACE. I am a bit sad to learn that ASP 10 will be the last issue. I have spent many hours of wonderful reading and fortunately will have your series on file in my library to go back to. They will be ten of my good "friends".

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If by fate, you go beyond #10, I will continue to be a faithful buyer. I just wanted you to know that!