Fanlore talk:Identity Protection

There's a couple of missing words in the new clarification: "...old archived usenet mailing lists..." should be "old archived usenet newsgroups or mailing lists" . --arduinna 22:12, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Clarification

Hello! I'm not sure this is the right place to post this, I do hope someone's watching. There are a couple of specific fan writers that have done fandom-related interviews (such as with National Public Radio or The Washing Post) in which their real names are publicly connected to their fandom pseuds. I would assume that this is sufficient evidence that they are not bothered by the connection, but as they've never (to my knowledge) officially given the OK, I thought I'd better double-check the policy. If it turns out the real names shouldn't be included on fanlore, would linking to the articles that out them (e.g. in footnotes) also be against policy? Thank you! ~ Sparcicle 06:33, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

I would say if they have given interviews and the articles based on these interviews connect real name and fandom pseud, then it's probably safe to assue that it's okay to connect the two identies. On the other hand, if the connection is just in a comment that was posted on the article page by someone else or there is reasonable evidence that they don't want to have real name and fandom pseud connected anywhere on the net (and maybe couldn't make the interviewer remove the connection), then it probably shouldn't be linked. Just my 2 cents, not a mod. ^^° --Doro 22:29, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

OK thanks, that's what I figured. I dug up some more interviews and they seem pretty open about their fannish lives so I'm going to go ahead and include it on their pages. Mods, if you disagree I'll remove the names and the links ASAP. (For the record, the fan writers in question are Arabella and Zsenya.) Thanks! ~ Sparcicle 00:06, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Doro's advice sounds reasonable to me. (You can also check their livejournals if they have any or ask them directly if they publicly associate their legal names with their fan names if it's unclear.) Just for future reference, if you discover that a fan has been outed on Fanlore, please let the Fanlore committee know so that we can also hide the revisions in the page history--otherwise, someone can find the revealing information by looking at previous edits. Regular users and gardeners are not able to hide page history.--æthel 14:25, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

adding some text from the Help page?

Would it be possible to add this text:

If you discover that you or someone else has been outed, or you need to remove the link between legal name and fannish involvement, please contact the committee instead of trying to fix it yourself! Some steps require gardener, admin or sysop permissions. Use the AttentionNameChange to indicate which pages need changing if there are many that you have noticed.

(copypastad fromHelp:Protecting Identity) somewhere offset (maybe with a Quotation type box around it?)/visible at the top of the the page, so it's more obvious to people (who aren't gardeners or admins or might not think to dig through the help pages) with concerns about their identity on fanlore? --Sk 06:05, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

How about this at the top of the page?

If you discover that you or someone else has been outed, or you need to remove the link between legal name and fannish involvement, please contact the committee instead of trying to fix it yourself! See Help:Protecting Identity for more on procedures.

--æþel 20:16, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

I think this is a good idea. --Mrs. Potato Head 20:21, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Looks good. --Doro 09:19, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Excellent --msilverstar 02:24, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Much clearer. Should the Pre-1995 Fan Name Use page also point to this? The current text is "...use the first name, last initial format. Then open a discussion..." which is fine in general, but not if there is an issue.--Kiwisue 08:55, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

If a fan has linked from their Tumblr to their Facebook page with full name listed, and also lists their full name on their deviantART, is it okay to put their name on Fanlore? I would assume so but I wanted to check...--Assassin J (talk) 18:07, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Yes, if a fan publicly links the two names in a space they control (especially a fannish space like deviantART) then it should be safe to link them on Fanlore. --sparc 19:17, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Pronouns

Yes, transformative fandom is a majority-female space, but shouldn't this text use neutral they/them/their wording in stuff like where it says "the fan has outed herself in a space she still controls, and has not taken steps to remove that outing"? Or is this intended as a "generic she" (feminist inversion of "generic he")? Assassin J (talk) 22:51, 26 November 2018 (UTC)