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Creation Con had many cons with Beauty and the Beast (TV) content. Some were dedicated completely to the show, and some mixed Beauty and the Beast content with other fandoms.

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Notable Cons

June 18, 1988 (Los Angeles)

The Creation Con in that encompassed June 18th was one that featured Ron Perlman (his first con) and other Beauty and the Beast (TV) actors and PTB. There is a very lengthy transcript of Howard Gordon's talk in Passages #4, #5, #6, and #7.

RON PERLMAN AT CREATION CON, 1988, Archived version

Con Report: June 18, 1988 (Los Angeles)

Creation Conventions held a Beauty and the Beast convention on June 18,1988 in Los Angeles, California. Conventions, in both San Diego and Los Angeles, the two weekends before this con may have kept the turnout rather small, but we had a good time. The guests were Ron Perlman (his first con) and Howard Gordon (executive story editor, along with Alex Gansa). David Greenlee, who plays "Mouse" was also scheduled to appear, but was unable to attend. The programming began with a showing of the classic Cocteau film, "Beauty and the Beast", which was enjoyed by all. Next was Howard Gordon, who came on early in place of David Greenlee. He was delightful, charming, and seemed totally at ease in front of an audience. After a mini-auction, trivia and acting contests, it was time for Ron Perlman, who came out to a roaring crowd. He seemed a little nervous at first, but as the warmth and enthusiasm of the audience reached him, he relaxed and answered questions with wit and charm. It was obvious to everyone that both Howard Gordon and Ron Perlman have nothing but love and respect for the show and its fans. It was a wonderful coming together. [1]

July 23-24, 1988 (Memphis)

David Greenlee was a guest. There was a slide show, plus an amateur B&B theatrical.

August 13-14, 1988 (Albany)

David Greenlee was a guest. There was a slide show, plus an amateur B&B theatrical.

November 5-6, 1988 (Oakland)

Howard Gordon was a guest.

February 25-26, 1989 (New York City)

Howard Gordon was a guest. Some of his comments are in Pipeline #v.2 n.4.

August 19-20, 1989 (San Jose)

Howard Gordon and Roy Dotrice in San Jose, CA on August 18-19th at the LeBaron Hotel. Fan attendance was 850.

Creation Conventions have changed their schedule drastically in the past month. Producer Howard Gordon will not be able to attend the Washington, D.C. multi-media event but however, be in attendance in San Jose August 19 & 20th, as will Roy Dotrice. The event will be the first full-scale, 2-day, commercial convention devoted solely to "Beauty and the Beast." (A photocopy of the ad will suffice for the 'Tree gift"). Something of a "test run," Creation is confident that fans will pitch in and make this event a mega-hit; needless to say, some pretty nifty future events will hinge on its success. [2]

The event will be the first full-scale, 2-day, commercial convention devoted solely to "Beauty and the Beast."... Something of a "test run," Creation is confident that fans will pitch in and make this event a mega-hit; needless to say, some pretty nifty future events will hinge on its success. [3]

Producer Howard Gordon during his Q&A at the Creation convention in San Jose, CA August 19th reportedly advised the assemblage that CBS had virtually requested that the producers ask the fans to please stop writing (according to one source 3,000 plus letters a week since May)! Later on, Mr. Gordon cautioned against outright harassment of CBS. It would seem that relations with the network have improved what with the two-hour movie premiere now 'in the can' and at least 5 out of the 12-episode order already having been filmed.

One week after the convention, however, most viewers were surprised to

see "The Rest Is Silence" instead of the scheduled "What Rough Beast." Two-thirds of the trilogy had been dropped to make room for a quartet of cartoons on September 1st & 8th. West Coast fans, looking forward to an uninterrupted airing of "Ceremony of Innocence" (sans Dan Rather), were particularly disappointed. [4]

August 26-27, 1989 (New York City)

August 26-27th at the Penta Hotel in Manhattan, guests were Tony Jay (Paracelsus of Beauty and the Beast), Wil Wheaton, Yvonne Craig, Bill Mumy, Isaac Asimov, Malachi Tluone, & Chris Cleremont)

September 23-24, 1989 (Chicago)

Advertised as a 1/2 B&B, 1/2 Star Trek convention

Guest: Tony Jay

September 1989 (San Jose)

Con Report: September 1989 (San Jose)

Yes, Roy Dotrice and Howard Gordon were in San Jose, and so was I. Yes, Ron Perlman was stalking through the alleys of downtown LA., and I was there. Yes, P.K. Simons and David Greenlee were speaking at a very small convention over the Labor Day Weekend, and I was there. But I'm not a fanatic. "Who's she kidding?) Well... maybe a little bit of a fanatic. I guess I'm addicted. If you're even mildly interested, keep reading.

My first BAB 'fix' was in San Jose at the Creation Convention. I was ostensibly there to sell my 'zines, but really... I mean... I'd never actually met Roy Dotrice. I guess I just couldn't help myself. He's so charming, debonair, classy!

What impressed me most about Roy in person was not his great voice, his sparkling eye, or even the fact that he has real clothes. He was so impressively healthy! Perhaps it's those 'tunnel lights', but Roy really looked marvelous. (Where's Billy Crystal when you need him?)

Roy entertained us not only with tidbits about the behind-the-scenes exploits (like the food fight that ignited on the 'Dead of Winter' set), but his first days in acting as a prisoner of war in a German POW camp. He was only sixteen, and his first role was as the fairy godmother in Cinderella, but it caught his actor's heart on fire and his love of acting has been burning ever since. He says that his wife is glad he graduated to male parts. I imagine so.

Howard Gordon was also very enlightening. He really was not free to let details about the new season out, but there were some details he spoke about. We shall get the new episodes with a new villain who'll make Paracelsus look like a goody-two-shoes.

At first, we shall have only dark glimpses of this villain, but by the sixth episode, he shall be fully revealed.

According to Howard, they are really excited, and that the spirit of the show is unchanged... and he seemed to be hinting at something when he said that, for he said it more than once with a twinkle in his eye.

He also said that the show would come on as soon as CBS had a slot available. Most guess that will be around December at this point.

The convention was very small, and there wasn't even a dealer's room. Instead, they were out in the hallways, but the spirit of the fans more than made up for it. Not only the fans, for both Roy and Howard signed autographs and posed for pictures until late In the evening Saturday, making sure no one was turned away empty-handed.

The next event in my recent escapades was a visit to a dark, rat-infested alley in downtown Los Angeles. Ron Perlman, in full Vincent make-up, showed up to do a scene. When the cameras roll, he's all business, bur in-between takes, he's a real cut-up. It still amazes me that he is so relaxed when he's working. He's a real professional.

During the San Jose convention, we had begged for funny stories from Howard. He told us that during filming of "Nor Iron Bars a Cage", the scene where the scientists are tracking Vincent down and turn their van's lights on him, causing Vincent to throw up his arm... during the rehearsal, Ron did just what he was supposed to, then shouted, "No, I said BUD LITE!"

Howard also confirmed that it was not Ron who played the pan-handler in the "What Rough Beast" street scene. He seemed as confused as many of us as to why people would keep insisting that it was Ron. I had asked David Schwartz the same question. "That was at Ron's recording signing at the Beverly Center in July) and David had said that Ron has never done a cameo in the show. David, on the other hand, did one in "The Rest is Silence" as the man in the park at the beginning picking up trash, and in the pilot, as the attorney who escorts Carol from the DA's office out to her hideout.

Did you know that Howard also was in the show? He was the video man at Laura's deposition in "Impossible Silence". He said it took all day to get that done.

P.K. Simons was on a writer's panel, and the talk was fairly general. He said that he had only written feature films, and that was what sold his talents to the B&B team. You may remember that he wrote "A Fair and Perfect Knight", one of the most touching shows of last season. He looks about Howard's age (28) with dark curly hair and a ready smile.

David Greenlee was apparently under strict orders not to reveal anything specific about the new season (sound familiar?) but he did say that Thursday, he had gone on location, that just about everyone in the cast from Below was there, and that he got to wear 'Above ground' clothes.

When he was asked about the new season, David looked thoughtful. He said if he had been asked that question a week earlier, he might have had doubts about how well the new storyline would go over, but now (and he smiled broadly) he thought it would do very well.

David says he's interested in reading all the fanzines (hint to you writers) and that he really loves the show. We said he really didn't know much about it when he went to film "Shades of Grey", except that Roy Dotrice was on it. This apparently Intimidated him. He says he didn't know enough about Ron to be intimidated by him for a couple of days!

When he speaks of Vincent, David gets a warm look on his cherubic face. He said more than once, "He is beautiful." Obviously, David loves Vincent as much as the rest of us. Some time before BAB, David worked with Linda, and that was another reason he was glad to get a part on the show. He seems genuinely fond of her, as a friend, not just as a co-worker.

The only hints David let slip were that when Vincent hurts, everyone Below hurts... and th^'re all hurting a lot in the beginning. I guess we're in for more angst. When asked about Ron Koslow, David described him as passionate. He sees a lot of Vincent in Ron, which is only natural, since Ron Koslow created the character.

Well, that's about it for now. Overall, I was impressed by the hope that everyone involved the show seems to have. There are obviously rocky times ahead for the characters, but from the little knowing smiles, I can only assume that there will be complicated twists and turns leading to resolutions we can't yet imagine.

The dream will endure. [5]

October 21-22, (Minneapolis)

Guests: Roy Dotrice, Howard Gordon, Robert Guttke. Some of Dotrice's remarks from the Q&A are in from Pipeline #v.2 n.11/12.

October 28-29, 1989 (Arlington)

Guests: Roy Dotrice, Howard Gordon

November 18-19, 1989 (Los Angeles)

tentative guests: Tony Jay, Howard Gordon, Judy Evans

Con Report: November 18-19, 1989 (Los Angeles)

[November 18-19, 1989]:Creation's salute to "Beauty and the Beast" for Los Angeles was held on the weekend before Thanksgiving. I flew out to Los Angeles, and shared a sales table with Sharon Wells.

Creation lined up guests George R.R. Martin, Jay Acovone, and Tony Jay. Judy Evans brought a breathtaking array of costumes used in the third-season shooting. Howard Gordon, who had been originally scheduled, did not attend. George Martin indicated that he and Alex (Gansa, Howard's writing partner) have sold a screenplay, and that there had been a conflict with the convention. (Congratulations Howard and Alex!)

It was most interesting. Many fans mentioned as they stopped at our table that they felt the tension was high: everyone was worried about Catherine' future as reported in the tabloids, and they wanted her future, figuratively, not literally, laid to rest. By the end of the convention, however, most of the fans seemed saddened, but much more relaxed. It was as though they could pursue their private mourning, and expect from the movie and subsequent episodes, no miracle shower-dream-cure devices so commonly used in other series.

The attendance was also interesting. Fans came from all over the county, but the total gate receipts were around six hundred and fifty people. The guests were entertaining. Jay Acovone was funny and relaxed, and George Martin was his usual original self.

The art show was a travesty: pieces submitted were laid against the wall behind the registration table, and no one ever got to see the art displayed, or know the winners. The art for sale, both in the sales room and elsewhere, was outstanding, however, and there were new pieces available which I had not previously seen.

The drama contest and trivia event were predictable. The costume contests had some nice ones, with Jay Smith's wonderful "Vincent" costume complete with the makeup one of the best. George Martin had sound advice for anyone trying their hand at "spec" scripts, and/or wanting to get started at television writing. He discussed "spec" scripts, As a vehicle to possibly get an agent, or as entree, a calling card if you will, into a producer's office. He stressed that they rarely sell, but are a sample of your work which can be used to determine some of your abilities in the genre.

[...]

The camaraderie among most of the fans seemed high, although there were the inevitable cliques. It seems that many of the fans have banded together in an effort to keep Catherine's memory close. Despite the fact many say they are ambivalent about the December 12th return, I believe most of the fans are determined to further the spirit of the show, no matter how the characters are thinned out...

All in all, it was a pleasant, if quick, weekend. The hotel was good, and that made it even moreso. I had heard that the San Jose hotel was indescribably terrible. [6]

March 1990 (Boston)

There are extensive remarks in Pipeline #v.3 n.4/5, including a photo of Roy Dotrice reading a fax to the cheering audience.

Con Reports: March 1990 (Boston

A con report by Stephanie A. Wiltse:

The last few conventions, Creation and otherwise, have sounded pretty interesting. This was my first one this year. The turn-out was light for such an event, only about 200. According to Creation, with out the show on the air at the moment there was no 'place' to advertise the event locally. The majority (from as far away as South Carolina) were there through the "Con Update" mention, since Creation's notification cards hadn't hit town till the day before. Guest of Honour Roy Dotrice, traveling from Los Angeles, figured he had flown about 40 miles per attendee.

Through a slight mix-up, I found my own Q & A sessions had been omitted, so Barbara Storey graciously shared the podium the first day. I was pretty ambivalent about this since Ms. Storey and I very rarely see eye to eye on anything — from the Video Pledge Drive to how to run a campaign. On the other hand, what better place to hold a reasonable discussion than in front of a hundred or so people — not to mention Creation's video camera....

Anyways, letters gently chastising me for not making the New York convention (which I had also been scheduled for; sorry, sick bird) had complained about "a Creation spokeswoman's" attitude. One woman felt ashamed that she had not had the courage to speak up and say "But is it all right to say you liked the third season?" How this situation had deteriorated, I thought, if now someone needs courage to express her own personal tastes.

Imagine my surprise in Boston when the expected "Freedom of Speech" — Don't be afraid to tell 'em off for the 3rd Season" (Excuse me, correction: "Nicely, please let 'em know what you don't like") rhetoric gave way for the most part to a reading off of good news and fandom's good works. The lusty debate which I was given to believe would be championed was non-existent. Indeed, Barb said what I would have said, better than I could have said it {Her poise and public speaking experience are the reason I gave her name and number to TVs "Entertainment Tonight" for their B&B segment last January). This afternoon you couldn't have told our viewpoints apart without the proverbial scorecard

[...]

One rumour did surface in regards to a hypothetical B&B TV-movie to be filmed this summer for CBS. This was credited to Jill Coplan at Republic Pictures and supposedly confirmed by Producer Ho ward Gordon. Would that it were true, but Jill denies having ever said it in the first place; and both Howard Gordon and Producer Alex Ganza are now working on developing their own pilots. (Let us know what's in the works when you can, fellas!)

[...]

Shortly thereafter, Creation's volunteer security pressed me into service; at 5'10" and not the slenderest of reeds, I guess I looked like a good candidate. It seems a couple of the attendees had been identified as people who had be come a little violent while at a previous event, trying to punch and kick their way through security to yet another handsome British actor, guesting at a horror films salute. (Small comfort that they didn't seem of B&B fandom.) The fracas had actually been immortalized on videotape.

I must emphasize that in the roughly 10 years I've attended Creation events, or conventions in general, this is only the second incident I'd ever heard of and neither was serious. My respect for "the secret service" increased enormously, as amidst a swirl of well-wishers I tried to keep between you-know-who and possible you-know- what. This involved being outright rude, while at the same time trying not to provoke the incident we were trying to avoid. Mr. Dotrice, not yet fully apprised of the situation, kidded later about my intentions, what with the sudden tendency to cling.

By the time the Q&A was over the hotel had supplied armed guards for the autograph table. Some how that didn't make me feel any better. If they had truly been needed, this was fast becoming the kind of news I didn't want to have to cover.

When the 'people in question' appeared over and over again in the autograph line, my heart came up in my throat. But each time Roy unquestioningly obliged them with more autographs, photos taken, and conversation. Twice he had one of them lean over or come back behind the autograph table for a hug and a snapshot pose. I glanced at the guard nearest and saw the snaps being quietly undone on his 'weaponry,' his hand coming to rest on the belt neatly. Can you say "oh" 40 times real fast? It was bad enough that some of the easy camaraderie had been noticeably absent at this convention (healing was evident but still at the itchy stage) ...but to have some kind of physical altercation happening to anyone — let alone our presiding Father figure — was simply unthinkable.

After the autograph session the guards escorted our party all the way out of the hotel and into the bar next door — which had us all chuckling sheepishly.

[...]

With hindsight I realized that the only protection Roy really needed that weekend was his own kindness. That admirable code of courtesy we've all come almost to take for granted, did him far better service than any armed bodyguard could have done. It is well to remember that the original purpose of shaking hands was to assure each person that the other carried no weapon. Without defense there was no danger. If only the same could be said of open arms and open hearts. Perhaps sometimes it can. [7]

March 10-11, 1990 (San Diego)

At the March 10-11, 1990 Creation Con in San Diego at the Bahia Hotel, Roy Dotrice (the actor who portrayed "Father") made comments to fans about how he'd had a private conversation with a fan who did not like third season, one in which he referred to her and others who did not like the third season of the show as "bad seed and people who had to be brought around to a correct way of thinking."

Roy lashed out very angrily at the third-season critics, especially the Michigan group and the person who sent a bunch of dead, black roses to Witt Thomas in protest of the death of romance. [8]

Probably the most newsworthy thing was Roy Dotrice telling us that he, Ron, Linda, and Jay got together for dinner Roy sat across from Linda, who was breast-feeding Dalton, so Roy said he was "paying a lot of attention to Dalton." [9]

March 10-11, 1990 (New York City)

Jay Acovone was a guest.

May 26-227, 1990 (Tacoma)

"On May 26 & 27, Jay Acovone (Joe Maxwell) will guest-star at Creation's next Beauty and the Beast Salute" at the Aton Hotel in Tacoma, Washington. There will be a video presentation at this convention of costumes from Beauty and the Beast, as well as fan-produced B&B music videos (Creation would like to see what you have produced, so bring your VHS tapes along!)" [10]

Aug. 4-5, 1990 (Philadelphia)

Guests were James Avery and Stephanie A. Wiltse.

August 25, 1990 (New York City)

November 3-4, 1990 (Los Angeles)

Edward Albert was a guest.

Nov. 17-18, 1990 (Sacramento)

Edward Albert was a guest.

November 25, 1990 (New York City)

It was at this con that Beth Blighton presented Ron Perlman with her art The Fire and the Rose. See that page for more.

CREATION CON, NEW YORK 1990, Archived version archive link

Con Reports: November 25, 1990 (New York City)

Before Ron came onstage, three very romantic, Vincent and Catherine music videos were presented — "Waiting for You" by Richard Marx & "Wind Beneath My Wings" by Bette Midler, compiled by Kim Taylor, and "After All" by Peter Cetera & Cher, compiled by a Creation employee — which Ron watched from the back of the room. He then came to the front of the ballroom, dressed completely in black—as he quite often is! [11]

Once loosed upon the dealers' room, I found it to be the grandest I'd ever seen. (Wish I'd had a table!) I There was an astounding quantity of "B&B" merchandise , stories ('zines) and pictures, especially considering how "young" a program it is. (I was also interested to note that while most of the "Trek" collectibles consisted of techno-toys, games, uniforms, etc., the "B&B" stuff ran heavily to 'zines and pictures, poetry and romance.)

[...]

For me the high point of the dealers' room was having the opportunity to gush over artist Sonia Hillios. She's done a large color portrait of Vincent with the moon behind him; I have it on my "B&B" wall at home, and it is magnificent. (If any of you knows knows Ms. Hillios, please thank her again for me!)

[...]

A few minutes before Mr. Perlman was due to come on stage, Creation presented two music videos put together by Kim Taylor. I'd had the honor of helping to arrange this; the videos are exquisite, matching songs like Richard Marx's "Right Here Waiting" and Bette Midler's "Wind Beneath My Wings" to scenes from the show's first two seasons. The single Creation video shown afterwards was nice too, we all agreed later; but Kim excels at pairing what's on the screen to the lyrics. (Note: Those of you who attended the convention and saw Kim's videos, feel free to write to her c/o my address; I'm sure she'll be pleased to hear from you, although I can't guarantee an answer. However, she is NOT presently making copies of the videos for anyone, so please don't ask her.)... As the audience cheered and wept their way to the videos' conclusion, I could only hope that Mr. Perlman, wherever he was waiting, could see them too. (As it turned out, someone came and told Kim that he was watching — from the kitchen.)

He was announced directly afterwards, and arrived onstage plainly overwhelmed. I don't know why it hadn't occurred to me that he might be moved by the videos; after all, I thought, he's seen those scenes. He's been in those scenes. But he was clearly stunned, either by the tribute implied by the videos themselves, or by the audience's reaction to them.

When it seemed he could speak again, a man in the balcony called out, "We love you, Vincent!" and Ron called back, "Vincent loves you too!" which made everybody laugh.

Now here's where things get a little jumbled. We didn't audio or videotape the question & answer session as we'd planned, so I ended up scribbling "notes & quotes" like a mad thing onto a quarter-sheet of paper dug out of the bottom of my purse. So, from this point on, I'm not relating his answers in the order that they occurred; I'm simply deciphering a patchwork-quilt of scribbles, which I hope to do with some degree of accuracy.

The best news is that Ron Koslow was scheduled to meet with the Powers That Be on November 29th (today!) to talk about the movie. Now I may be an incredible optimist, but I don't think they'd waste their time discussing a movie they don't intend to make. Mr. Perlman also stated that there are plans for another poetry-album.

He mentioned that he's been getting a lot of gifts, but that he'd prefer that donations be made, instead, to the "Make a Wish" Foundation; they are doing a lot of work with pediatric Aids.

Asked what was his favorite episode, he said he really didn't have one, but "that's a crock," he corrected himself; he really did. His favorite was the finale of "A Happy Life"... "because it was classic 'Beauty 6 the Beast,' Catherine and Vincent, no car chases and no violence." (One can read a lot into this answer; but I'll let you do this for yourselves.)

[...]

[Perlman] revealed a private conversation that had taken place between Ron Koslow and him before the third season began. On discovering the direction the network was going to take. Mr. Perlman had suggested that they just end the series and do a feature film. Mr. Koslow decided to go ahead and do the third season ... How would he have ended it (the romance) rather than by the violence that was used? "I wouldn't have," he said firmly.

What are the story-plans for the movie? He didn't know and avoided painting himself into a corner; "But I know what I'd like to see them do." He would have shut up then, but the audience wouldn't have it; and in fact", it was the only question initially refused, that he let himself be wheedled into" ...... answering. "I'd like to see then; find a way to reunite Vincent and Catherine." (Wild cheers.)

He spoke about the "thirst for great literature" which the show has unearthed in this country , Asked what Shakespearean parts he'd still like to play, he said that playing Vincent had sort of cured him of that, since it was "everything I could have wished for."

[...]

Although he said he was "proud of some of the work we did in the third season," he also said. "I wish we'd done a feature film instead of some of the episodes we did."

Beth Blighton presented him with a framed color mostly-nude portrait of Vincent carrying a spear. entitled "The Warrior." There was a collective gasp throughout the auditorium as she earned it up onstage; but he reacted wonderfully (if blushingly). "Talk about a flight of fancy!" he exclaimed, laughing.

Robert Guttke, a sculptor who also wrote "When the Bluebird Sings," presented Ron with a large bronze statue of Vincent. He explained that in the original script, Vincent and Catherine were supposed to be given a statue. but that Ron Koslow had insisted it be a painting instead, "I finally got my way!" crowed Mr. Guttke onstage.

On being told of the Family Channel's publicized plan to "create a marriage-scene between Vincent & Catherine, he said "Poppycock!" He hadn't heard anything about this (the stars are sometimes the LAST to know). When the audience had convinced him (en masse) that it was so: "If we didn't do it, it didn't get done." he said flatly, "Nobody has the right to mess around with those episodes." He called it "sacrilege." (An interesting word choice. I thought, considering the circumstances!)

[...]

Why had he wanted to do this convention? "Well." he began. "I'm not very good at answering my mail"; but when he feels that a large backlog of questions "and energy" has built up, he likes to address that.

[...]

[Perlman] would not "do the Vincent voice" despite the wheedling pleas from the back (and most of us neither wanted nor expected him to). .. I have to say that this strength of character is one of the things I admire most about Mr. Perlman; when he says "No," he means "No." He doesn't pander to his fans. and I think that's great.

[...]

Someone asked him how he reacted to "bad jokes" about Vincent and Catherine, and mentioned Howard Stern. "Well, Howard Stern is an animal." Ron scowled and went on from there as my mouth dropped open. It's the only negative thing I've ever heard him say about anybody; he's usually so discreet. I didn't even know who Howard Stern was (although I have since read about this NY talk-show host who evidently specializes in Downey-style armpit-eloquence).

Toward the end the questions began to deteriorate; one man got up and said that his cat wanted to say something or ask something. none of which I could make sense of; but sure enough he had a collared gray longhair under his arm. How did he get it past hotel security. I wonder?!

I'll leave you with my favorite question/answer of the day. "Do you think," someone asked him wistfully, "that Vincent ever remembered what happened in that cave?" "Oh. yeah," Ron said softly and instantly, with great conviction. Yeah." [12]

April 1991 (New York City)

April 1991? New York City (This con was split between two hotels that were two blocks apart. "Because of the space problems, we were not able to do as much alternate programming as I would have liked (no panels, etc.),but we did have a video room at night, complete with an orgy of music-video-watching! Kim Taylor's versions of "Hungry Eyes" and "Uptown Girl" and (my favorite) "Right Here, Waiting For You" were all fantastic." --part of a MUCH longer con report in Tunneltalk v.2 n.3, May 1991)

May 4-5, 1991 (New York City)

References

  1. ^ from Passages #4
  2. ^ from Pipeline (Beauty and the Beast newsletter edited by Stephanie A. Wiltse)|Pipeline]] #v.2 n.8
  3. ^ from Pipeline v.2 n.8 (August 1989)
  4. ^ from Pipeline v.2 n.10
  5. ^ from Pipedreams (September/December 1989)
  6. ^ from Pipedreams (September/December 1989)
  7. ^ Pipeline #v.3 n.4/5
  8. ^ as quoted in the April 1990 issue of Shadows of the City
  9. ^ as quoted in the April 1990 issue of Shadows of the City
  10. ^ from Pipeline v.3 n.4/5 (April/May 1990)
  11. ^ Tunneltalk v.1 n.9 (1990)
  12. ^ from a much longer con report by Lynette Combs, printed in The Spiral Staircase #3