Talk:Aesthetic Edit

relationship with memes

Anyone know what the relationship is (if any) between this fanwork type and the My Aesthetic meme?--aethel (talk) 21:33, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

It may be related. But my tumblr archive shows that I reblogged/and made dozens of aesthetic edits in 2013+14, so that My Aesthetic meme can't have created the aesthetic edit trend as that started just before 2015. But it may have popularised the term (to describe the edits), knowyourmeme has a chart showing a significant rise in search use for "aesthetic" around 2015 and beyond. It's possible that the My Aesthetic meme could be the reason to that rise. Fitzaby (talk) 21:54, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

Page Name

Can I get a sense-check on this — I've rarely, if ever, seen these image collages referred to as Aesthetic Edits (only as moodboards). Is aesthetic edit the name for them in other parts of fandom I'm not in? I've also seen "aesthetic edit" used to refer to video edits that focus on aesthetics (for example) so this feels a little ambiguous, but it may just be me? - Castille (talk) 15:20, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

I agree when I first read the article’s title I assumed it was referring to Video Edits. I feel moodboards might be a better name. Concerning-aragorn (talk) 15:26, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

I have seen them referred to as Aesthetic Edits, however I do agree that Moodboards are the much more common term for them -- Kingstoken (talk) 17:03, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

moodboards It seems like a much more common name to me too, I've also seen the name "picspam" but I think that was a name that was outdated -- Ellakbhesse (talk) 18:25, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

My understanding of picspam was a bunch of pictures of a character or actor all thrown together in a post, but a moodboard is supposed to have a unifying theme to it, at least that was my understanding -- Kingstoken (talk) 18:53, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Your description sounds to me more like character aesthetics than picspam. The name issue may never be resolved due to differences in language, fannish and of course country/group -- Ellakbhesse (talk) 23:25, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Addendum, talking to friends about the use of picspam, moodboard and aesthetics, I was recommended this FB post by barbaravitoriatp, dated 2018 -- Ellakbhesse (talk) 00:12, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Looking now, you cited a single Tiktok source that is not the most reliable when it comes to correct names for fannish terms, as there is its own culture in this short video app. And that intrigues me, because I believe that if there is only that quote there, perhaps it would not be such a plausible argument for changing the name (using only this example from the video site). However, the open debate brought up the question that the term article title is used by fannish culture in addition to moodboard interchangeably. Perhaps the most correct thing would be to open the vote, but based on the arguments presented later, and perhaps mention how young people on tiktok use the term for other things. This video app is already well known for its unusual use of simple words such as changing dead for not alive, or using lipstick to assault sexual -- Ellakbhesse (talk) 12:48, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

I would say "edit" is more encompassing, depends on the focus of the page. I used to make edits on Tumblr, mostly for book fandoms. As there is little to none visual source material, it's always done with aesthetic images. I typically saw "edits" as the general term, while "moodboards" referred more often to 4x4 collage grids, like this one: File:Sosf_castorangevin_moodboard.jpg. Like the difference between tfc moodboard and tfcedit. Or likewise, acotaredit, or acotar moodboard. I think there's more variety in terms of layout/graphic design in "edit", compared to "moodboard". For example, 1, 2, 3, 4 these don't really get called moodboards, but fit the term "aesthetic edit", or just edits. Fitz (talk) 18:57, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

I understand but I do feel the meaning of the word Edit has changed to mean more video edits especially on Tiktok and other video websites. A lot of younger fans associate edit with capcut and tiktok videos, so maybe we could add something in parentheses to explain how it’s a more photo based edit? perhaps something like “Photo Edits”? Concerning-aragorn (talk) 19:09, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

My only issue with calling the page just "Edit" or "Fan Edit" is that I have seen the same term be used for those really short tiktok style vids, like looking at tumblr here and here are just a couple examples of very short vids fans are calling edits on tumblr -- Kingstoken (talk) 19:11, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

I agree. "Edit" is too general and used on different platforms to mean different things. I'm a little biased, as this is just my circle in fandom, but I think "aesthetic edit" already fits the most as that's how a lot of these images are found and put together. I know a lot of Tumblr editors use Pinterest to find the images, and put them in boards, like this user, often searching "___ aesthetic" on Pinterest. I think "Moodboard" could still work and not opposed to it, but I see that more for a specific type of edit. Other ideas: "Graphic Edit", "Photo Edit", "Tumblr Edit" etc. -- Fitz (talk) 19:29, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Returning to the subject, I found some old publications from some internet acquaintances (Brazil) and in one of them I found this link about moodboards, but the images and the concept used look similar, much more like scrapbooks and collages than moodboards/aesthetics. Another example is this art by a FB illustrator -- Ellakbhesse (talk) 23:03, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

The first images looks more like collages to me, and second one looks more like a character sheet. I think the problem is that different people may use the term interchangeably with other edits -- Kingstoken (talk) 23:08, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Yes, that is the biggest truth. One of the posts I found on Facebook from an acquaintance talks about picspam or moodboard, but also mentions aesthetics, but without the term edit. There are even blogs (Tumblr, DeviantArt and etc) with ready-made templates for creating moodboard -- Ellakbhesse (talk) 23:12, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

The sharing of moodboard templates was actually really common, I have done it myself. Plus sites like Canva come with plug and play templates now, so it is easier than ever to make moodboards. -- Kingstoken (talk) 23:24, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

In the end, I think moodboard would be a broader and more comprehensive name than the others, it seems, because everything we research comes back to this same topic -- Ellakbhesse (talk) 23:39, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

On second thought, my vote is to rename to "Moodboard" as well, but I would say it's a type of edit, with moodboard referring more to collages. This page focuses on moodboards, edits are a thing but a much bigger topic. Also, moodboards didn't begin in fandom, they were already a common thing in art and design, I think the earlier links for Facebook and things are related to that? I think a separate article for Tumblr edits might be a good idea still. Aesthetic edits are a thing, but more variety in design which this page doesn't reflect, but it fits Moodboard perfectly! --Fitz (talk) 00:29, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

We have a page for manips, and a general page for Web Graphics but I agree that we need a general photo editing page that isn't this one or either of those. In the meantime, are we all happy with this page to be renamed to Moodboard? - Castille (talk) 05:29, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

but manip is much more related to creating an image with others (putting someone's head on another body, placing a figure in another location). While web graphics is a general outline of all types of digital photo montages (including manip, moodboard and the like). Other than that there is also the K/S images CGA page. Should we perhaps edit the pages you mentioned before perhaps changing the name of this article in question? Because what is here is quite different from what is mentioned on other pages. It's unique to the point of having its own article, but complex to the point where the title is still in limbo -- Ellakbhesse (talk) 12:41, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

giving my final word on the subject, I believe so, where young people rule, the term EDIT is used in any image and video editing (Twitter/TikTok) so the most plausible thing would be to change the name of this article for the moodboard, and leave a large section on other names with some redirection to the video editions in other articles (perhaps a new session on fanvids?), leaving the current title as a redirect since it still comes from several pages where it is used as a synonym for moodboard. I believe that the biggest problem is that with the advent of tiktok a large part of the fandom once again had a great distance from each other to the point of creating their own terms , or each group uses the same one but for different things (which in the first place generated the discussion about changing the name of the page). I believe that we should take all these references that we brought and combine them in the best way to modify and expand the page. and in the article about tiktok maybe explain how some fannish terms and other common terms are used differently by platform users, thus creating their own niche, how about that? PS: I don't know if my text is clear enough, but if something I wrote is wrong, forgive me because I'm using a mechanical translator as usual and it's not the best friend best friend when I need to translate something, especially my extensive thoughts -- Ellakbhesse (talk) 13:01, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

I agree that moodboard can be considered a subset of a (picture) edit, but the big advantage for me is that "moodboard" doesn't connote video much if at all - while keeping the idea of images selected for a particular mood/aesthetic. So I'd be good with the change with some notes about usage added to the article and cross-references, and then we add notes to the pages for "edit" or "aesthetic" as well. (One advantage is searching aesthetic edit is unlikely to be common haha whereas I can easily imagine someone searching moodboard) Distracteddaydreamer (talk) 07:15, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Quick thoughts: I use both 'moodboard' and 'aesthetic' for these kinds of edits myself, though I do think the former would probably work better for the title. -- OfMonstersAndWerewolves (talk) 20:20, 16 June 2024 (UTC)