Talk:Hookerfic

Talkpage from "Rentboy" moved here:

I'm wondering whether this page is really needed, since we've got general discussion of prostitution!fic at Hookerfic, and this definition isn't fandom-specific. If this is just to define "rentboy," I'd suggest redirecting this to Hookerfic and defining the term there. Or do you see rentboy!fic as a specific genre separate from prostitution!fic in general?--Penknife 13:05, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree. A sentence on the hookerfic page with a mention that in slash it's often called rentboy fic or rentboy AU should be more than enough. (And if a definition of rentboy is really felt to be necessary, a link to dictionary.com or something would suffice.) --Kyuuketsukirui 13:11, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

We can move the definition over, but I wouldn't link to dictionary.com - there's nothing there. Urban Dictionary has a definition. Although (just to be contrary), why not leave a definition up? In LOTRPS and SGA, at least, "rentboy" is a common fandom term - I've never heard it used outside fandom, certainly, so it fits my definition of "fannish vocabulary," and therefore justifies its own glossary entry. (Which is why I created one.) --Pi, 10:30, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

It's not all that fannish, I've seen it on episodes of Law & Order. I don't think it has a uniquely fannish meaning so much as its a piece of vocabulary fans are more likely to have. --Betty 15:39, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Ah, well, I've never seen or heard it in mainstream media (I don't watch Law & Order), so maybe that led to my perception of it as a fandom term. --Pi 14:00, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

What Betty said. It's not a fandom term. Here is a definition from dictionary.com. --Kyuuketsukirui 23:50, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't go so far as to say it's NOT a fandom term - perhaps not solely a fandom term. --Pi 14:02, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, that's what I meant. --Kyuuketsukirui 20:29, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Isn't "rent boy" a Victorian term? If someone knows how Victorian slang got appropriated by fandom, that might be an interesting article to have. I always assumed that the term came in from fans having seen Wilde, but I haven't seen Wilde myself, so I could be imagining things....--Aethel 21:16, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Unsure how to move this talk page to Hookerfic. --Mrs. Potato Head 14:40, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Hmm. The only thing on the Hookerfic talk page is the unsigned comment "I'm sprinkling synonyms so the annoyingly literal search engine will find this page." I suggest deleting Talk:Hookerfic and then moving this talk page there. --Doro 15:16, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Will do. --Mrs. Potato Head 15:59, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Fandoms where hookerfic is common

I'd love to see a list of fandoms where hookerfic is common, possibly with lists of of which characters are often portrayed that way, and reference links to individual fics. Off the top of my head, Batman, Harry Potter (wherein the list of characters could just be "everyone, dammit"), White Collar; I'm sure there are some in Highlander, maybe X-files; I've seen a single NCIS fic with Tony as a child hooker. It occurs to me that any cop show might have hookerfics, but I don't know which ones have *lots* of them. XMen? Star Trek? (I s'pose nu!Trek has plenty of hooker!Kirk?) Smallville? Torchwood? --Elfwreck 03:20, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Sentinel has a fair amount of them. --Mrs. Potato Head 12:31, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Oh, Sentinel. Yes, very yes on that one; Hooker!Blair, Hooker!Jim, pre-canon hookers, in-canon hookers, hooker AUs, undercover *pretending* to be hookers - yes, yes, yes.

But Batman? Really? I did not know that. ... *who* in Batman? ... no, wait, it's Dick, isn't it? ... no, Tim. No, wait. Jason?

I've never seen any in Torchwood but I've only dabbled. I can name literally *two* in X-Men comics, it's not at all a popular trope there, even with all the opportunities canon affords. I'm sure Smallville had a few but I don't think many compared to what a monster fandom it was, I feel like TPM was the same but I didn't read as much. I can't think of any in Highlander - it's been a long while but I did read pretty widely at the time. I suspect SPN/J2 has a lot; I'm not in it but it totally looks like that kind of fandom from the outside. also that one with Frank and Gerald, I don't even know what fandom that is but there's hookerfic for it I tell you what. I think popslash had quite a lot. Iron Man has a hooker!Tony or two, Criminal Minds and Numb3rs have a couple, probably SGA has a bunch, but the thing is pretty much every fandom has a *few*, you're scarcely even a fandom at all until someone writes a hookerfic. But if you're using Sentinel or HP as the high bar, not many fandoms are going to measure up. --MegR 22:29, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

A fandom with really, none, is Starsky and Hutch, despite the fact it's over thirty years old. --Mrs. Potato Head 22:41, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

There is in fact S&H hookerfic, but it's maybe three stories and all fairly recent, and this despite a main character with a quasi-canonical fascination with/for prostitutes. I think it's maybe related to how relatively little AU there is in the fandom. --Greenygal 23:55, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

SGA does have several, will dig up some examples. And whoah, SPN, the "Dad didn't leave enough money to feed Dean and little Sammy when he left on a hunt" or "Sam's full-ride scholarship didn't quite cover everything" tropes seem very common there. --Sk 23:03, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

DC comics: Jason is the star hooker, since he was 13 years old & living on the street when Batman found him. (Well, post-Crisis Jason; let's not think too hard about DC's timelines.) Also, Jason is the "bad Robin" who grew up to be a villain and was a lot rougher around the edges than the other Robins. But Hooker!Tim is also common, although mostly as part of undercover work. (We're all pretty sure Bruce has an incredible kink for putting young boys in dresses and setting them out as bait for perverts.) The trope of "superhero goes undercover as a prostitute" is pretty much fandom-wide; not sure how much that counts as hookerfic, 'cos often the hooking stops as soon as they find/catch the bad guy. --Elfwreck 23:18, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

I started a SPN section--I have 0 knowledge of Dean/Castiel or het fic with this trope. I also can't think of any SPN FPF examples off the top of my head. Likely because there's dozens. Also which episode was it where the cops show Dean's record and there's something that can be read as an indication of a juvenile arrest for solicitation?--facetofcathy 17:36, 20 April 2011 (UTC)