Category talk:Gaming & Role Playing

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A number of the articles here are actually fandoms or "official" games that also appear under the Games category. There is some ambiguity when the canon is also a fan activity. Do we want to exclude pages like Final Fantasy, Baldur's Gate, and World of Warcraft?--æþel 17:42, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

I went ahead and removed the fandom overview pages from this category, but added some gaming fandoms as subcategories.
A question: Are gaming and role playing distinct enough that these can be two separate headings? is it worth having a subcategory for RPGs on social media, which seem very different from gaming and table-top RPGs? If gamers are a kind of fan, shouldn't we have a Gaming fandom category (and cross-link it under Fandoms by Community)? I do not enough about these things to make any definite proposals, but at least one user found the category confusing when it contained everything from askblogs to Final Fantasy. We can split this category up or add subcategories if it would be useful for people. Or not....--æþel 00:49, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
So speaking as the user who was confused, I was about to say that you shouldn't generalize based on me because I am serious when I say I don't completely understand the hierarchy or categories. My mind just doesn't work that way when it comes to wikis. But then I read the bit where you mention Fanlore not having a gaming fandom category and... while I don't identify as a gamer, I definitely think one should be present. A fair chunk of my readlist on DW are gamers and I definitely think of them as fans and as having their own fandom in the same way anime & manga has a fandom. - inkstone 02:12, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
For what it's worth, I agree with both of you, though I really only lurk on the periphery of gaming fandom and I'm not particularly familiar with its borders, structure, terminology, or nuances. That aside, I too was surprised to see Final Fantasy and askblogs in the same category, and am inclined to think "Gaming" and "Role Playing" could be split up pretty cleanly into distinct categories (or just sorted into subcategories?), but in practice I don't really know. I also agree that Gaming is a "Fandom by Community" in the same way that Anime & Manga, Vidding, etc. are. As a side note, I'd really love to see a Gaming Fandom (Gaming?) page in addition to a category, but I am unfortunately unqualified to write it.--sparc 08:22, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
About Final Fantasy, shouldn't the game fandom categories be subcategories of Category:Games? I find this all a bit confusing. --Doro 08:30, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Games is a media format category, and under the current rule, these categories contain only fandom overview pages and not categories. If we changed the rule, we would need to change it for all the Fandoms by Canon Type subcats.--æþel 01:44, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
I agree that the Final Fantasy & etc fandom categories should be subcategories of the Games category. It is kind of confusing though and we could really use a gaming person's input. - inkstone 11:36, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I think the boundaries are blurry which is why the category exists in its current state. But I definitely think there's a big difference between an Askblog and console games like Final Fantasy, Devil May Cry, Bayonetta, etc. I'm not sure how games like WoW, Glitch & Dragon Age would fit into this though. Or the more traditional tabletop games like D&D. On the other hand, I do think some of the journal RPs have some elements in common with D&D? Maybe? - inkstone 11:34, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
I'm not a gaming person, plus I never actually use the categories to browse, but I agree that the input of some actual gamers is needed before any action is taken. I would suggest asking on the dw comm, or on the otw comm if that doesn't work.--MegR 11:48, 6 December 2011 (UTC)