Talk:Stargate SG-1
Okay, here's me taking an initial crack at balancing some statements made by contributor #1, but I wonder if some of this stuff should eventually get moved over to character or pairing pages. I'm also wishy-washy about including illustrative examples of fic tropes inline, down below in notes, or not at all. Other fandoms seem not to have stamped out a definitive protocol either. On the one hand, they're stories that I do feel made a significant splash; on the other, I don't want to be guilty of simply fêting my favourite writers. Thoughts? Stultiloquentia 21:18, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
I changed a few things in the SG-1 fanfic trends subsection. 1) When Daniel's actor took a year off the show in season six, Jack/Daniel fandom seemed close to dying out. In more recent years, with Daniel's return and the addition of two veteran Farscape actors, Ben Browder and Claudia Black, to the cast, the fandom has revived and even grown, as has the quality of fic. This seems to mix up two things: the size of the slash fandom and the general SG-1 fandom. In an earlier version that made more sense because there it said that the slash fandom revived with the addition of another slashable character. I changed it back. 2) As of 2008, SG-1 fandom is still smallish, but busy. What's that supposed to mean? SG-1 fandom is really, really huge. It has ten years worth of fanfic. ... (Doro)
- SG-1 fandom is...not that huge. In 2 years, SGA had more stories than SG-1 had in 10. It's a major fandom, so you're right, it's larger than most shows fandoms; on the other hand, compared to other major fandoms, it's on the small size.
- I doubt that. On what numbers do you base that on? Take the Stargate Novel Archive, which hasn't been updated in years, doesn't include any slash or adult stuff and didn't accept anything under 25,000 words, and show me something comparable in the SGA part of the fandom. I agree that SGA slash is bigger than SG-1, but SG-1 was very strong on gen and het. Even Fanfiction.net has more SG-1 than SGA fic. (sherrold? you forgot to sign) --Doro 10:36, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- It looks like the first original quote was in reference to Jack/Daniel fandom, so the second quote probably was as well. If so, it just needed the 'slash' qualifier on it, if everyone is in agreement that that component of the fandom was relatively small. --rache 13:52, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- I already did that in my last edit because given the size of the general SG-1 fandom, I assumed it could only refer to the slash part of the fandom. (see below for the rest of my comment that got separated from the first part) --Doro 14:16, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
...I assumed it was supposed to say the active part is not as big as it once was and changed it accordingly. As this still refers to the slash fandom, I put it there. The paragraph after that isn't entirely clear either. Are we still talking about slash fic? Or slash and gen? Het? Femslash? I wasn't sure from reading the examples and I didn't touch it but I think that part needs some work. --Doro 23:28, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- Cool. And, oi, yes, I meant to say active fandom. Somewhere it should probably say that Claudia Black excited the het fans at the same time Ben Browder excited the slash fans -- and both of them excited the gen fans -- but it kinda makes sense to keep the slash paragraph slashy. And I know squat about what's currently going on in the Daniel/Vala comms, anyway. I tried to clarify who I was talking about in the subsequent paragraph, but my sentences are pretty obviously pre-coffee. A start, and some food for debate, anyway.Stultiloquentia 15:59, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Was there much fannish migration from farscape after it closed up? I know some was expected. --Betty 19:45, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Maybe on the gen side; there wasn't much of a slash fandom in Farscape, after all.
Slash Archives
Query: there arent any links to predominantly slash SG1 vid vaults/archives. Is there a reason? I'd begun adding some earlier this year, only to find that theyve all been edited out in favor of het and Sam/Jack. I am so hoping that was an oversight mistake. EDIT: Also, Id like to add to the convo that from where Im standing, the slash community of SG1 may have lost a few beloved writers, but we are not only maintaining an active fanbase, we are also gaining new fans in the bargain. The difference is, due to the shunning of certain segments of fanatical fandom, our communities and archives are mostly private/underground/invitation only. There was a wonderful study done by talkingsock on DW earlier this year for an MIT symposium which very clearly showed that even though slash continues to be viewed as "other" and strange, around 60% of the fandom vidder respondents either have been or are currently involved in slash interests. Holdt 20:45, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
- Are you sure that you've added links here? o_O The history of the page doesn't show that you've edited the page at all. Maybe you are confusing it with the Jack/Daniel page? There you've added some links... --Doro 21:00, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
- Doro, as usual you are awesome. lol *facepalm* Yes, you are completely correct - I misapplied my notes when I made those changes. Thanks for your help yet again. As a side note, Im not sure who added the information on racefail for Teal'c, but excellent and noteworthy addition, nonetheless. Thanks again! --Holdt 00:48, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
interesting link
- discussion started by princessofgeeks about SGA vs. SG1 fandom trajectory.--æþel (talk) 01:09, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
outdated info
One section states that The fandom boasts every conceivable take on AMTDI, mind meld and bodyswap, and has recently developed an affection for genderswap and queer het. No date is provided, and I discovered that the edit was made in 2008, so I'd argue it's no longer recent. Can anyone elaborate on what is meant by queer het in SG1 fandom? Is this a trend that has come and gone? Can someone add some examples of the genderswap and queer het people have affection for?
I also have a lot of questions about this dependent clause, which reads like grudgewank in its current form: While one influential fan believed strongly that the SG-1 slash fiction was famous for years for its relatively small size, and poor quality, relative to other fandoms of its age and era... Who is the influential fan? How many people shared their view? Was there a meta discussion or wank about this? The change was made in 2013 by a user who only made two edits, so someone else will need to divine their meaning.--aethel (talk) 23:35, 14 June 2018 (UTC)