Talk:Plagiarism

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The plagiarism of Thamiris after her death would be a good one for the examples section. --Kyuuketsukirui 22:10, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

That's a good one, thank you. --Msilverstar 01:28, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

There's a comm that tracks this, too, but I can't remember the name, though I'm betting it's very obvious and I'm just blanking. At least one member of my flist was a victim of an author who had made a habit of reposting other people's fic under their own name. --Seperis 22:50, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

That's stop_plagiarism. -- Liviapenn 23:00, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
*sighs* Did it have to be *that* obvious? That's just embarrassing to forget. --Seperis 23:11, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
You saw me over on talk:incest trying to track down a meta discussion by the color of the livejournal, right? ^_^ -- Liviapenn 23:30, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

About the namarie120 plagiarism kerfuffle: I wrote a pretty good overview post. I'm wondering if it's OK to post a link to it.

Yes, I should think so, of course.--anatsuno 14:38, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Shey Stahl/Twilight

Don't know if it's "notable", but I just found this example:

Shey Stahl appears to be a pro author/self-published author who also wrote fanfic.

Maybe just a note and link to the articles, unless there's something new to say. --msilverstar (talk) 18:54, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Plagiarism reporting resources for fanfic writers?

I've just become one of the many fanfic writers who've had their more popular stories plagiarised on Amazon's self-publishing platform. I'm not on fanfiction.net (and my story wasn't published on there in the first place), so the comm on there is probably not relevant in my case, and LJ's stop_plagiarism comm seems dead, so where does one go right now to give fellow fans a heads-up? The same "author" who ripped off my stuff has plagiarised other fanfics as well.

It'd be a nice addition to the article if we could have some links to resources for plagiarised fanfic writers/active places with discusson on this kind of thing. --Snowgrouse (talk) 19:18, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

I think FFA had a thread about it or it came up in the ask meme thread. Hoopla (talk) 05:57, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
I was afraid someone would suggest FFA. I've just... never been into wank memes. Laugh if you like, call me naïve or some hoity-toity moralist, but I'd like to be able to talk about it (and serious fandom stuff in general) on somewhere that's a bit less... wanky. (Plus, now that I've talked about the issue here, I've effectively un-anoned myself anyway.) There was one Tumblr blog that alerted people to plagiarists (I think it was an offshoot of the FF.net comm?) but that seems dead, too. I can't find any comms on the subject on PF, either. It's harder to find comms on DW, but if there *is* a living comm on there for this thing, I'd be glad for pointers. And again, this is not just a personal request, since it'd be great to have those resources on this article in general! --Snowgrouse (talk) 18:37, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
Wow, okay. Nevermind about FFA and good luck. - Hoopla (talk) 20:32, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
...I didn't really intend to be confrontational there, and I'm genuinely sorry if it came across as that. I'd say more, but I feel like my hands are tied, now--exactly because of fandom's hostile and moralising callout culture. Because whatever you say, someone can take it in bad faith and use it against you. I'd just like to be able to talk about things in good faith, without having to fear someone's going to flame you due to some personal grudge they still harbour against you for having shipped the wrong thing 12 years and three fandoms ago, dragging it into ad hominems and mobbing. That's all. Absolutely nothing more--and I know some people can get some humour and support out of that place, too. More power to them. I'm just tired of wank and bad faith and people ripping each other apart, wherever it occurs. Usually, if I encounter a hostile person, my mind immediately goes to what has made that person that way, what cultural phenomena etc. feed into that, and if I vent about the situation, I criticise the cultural phenomena rather than the specific person (because I don't believe it's always just one isolated individual, but a composite of various influences, like we all are). So in cases like these, where a particular individual's acts (however part of a certain culture) do stand out--where one particular individual has to be prevented from plagiarising--I want to make sure I focus on the technicalities on how to do that, rather than try and rouse an angry mob to dogpile them (which often happens when someone takes a thing to a wank comm). Maybe it's some severely autistic kid who doesn't know any better. I don't know. But I do know that anon raging and dogpiling can only go so far, because it doesn't strike at the root of the problem. Spreading awareness and talking about the issue, in a civil fashion, may be less immediately satisfying than raging and a good witch hunt, but it strikes me as a more constructive approach. As pissed off as I am about my work being plagiarised, I still wouldn't want someone to end up in a mental hospital after a mob has bullied her into killing herself or otherwise harming herself, which I've seen happen for less on wank comms--I have had to watch a friend have a nervous breakdown over wank comm bullying when she merely shipped the wrong thing, and have myself had to get the police involved over wank comm-fomented trolling (outside the comm itself) that lead to death threats, even after the trolls were told to leave the comms. Serious stalking, serious crazy that's lead to people dying. So *that's* why I don't like wank comms. Perhaps I'm an idealist, but I'd like to work towards whatever will teach this plagiarist that plagiarism isn't cool, and encourage her to create her own fics instead. Yes, I know someone will think that I'm taking the mickey, and just trying to appear like some bloody saint when I can be a seriously angry woman at times myself, but that's... really what I'd like to at least *strive* towards, you know? I genuinely do believe in this, and think it'd be more constructive in the end. That's all.--Snowgrouse (talk) 22:59, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

the NWA1985Flair addition

Using dialogue from canon (if I'm understanding this addition correctly) is not the focus of this page. --MPH (talk) 13:04, 28 April 2019 (UTC) Added: certainly a page or a section of this page on fans incorporating dialogue for shows into fanworks would be a good idea, but I disagree on labeling this practice "plagiarism." --MPH (talk) 13:35, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

the section about examples of plagiarism

I want to stress that the section about examples of plagiarism is 1) one should not make an addition to it lightly, as there are real people behind accusations; it is not a place to simply publicly call out fans and/or people one may have an issue with, 2) it is not an all encompassing list of examples (this is not within Fanlore's scope; there are other places on the internet for that) 3)) the incidents/examples should be well-documented and have some value regarding fannish discussion, history, have some context, and be something more than just a casual mention.

Please be extra aware and cognizant of these things. --Mrs. Potato Head 18:01, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

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