Talk:Children's Literature
Interesting stuff here, but the current structure of the page has me a little worried. "trope" pages are for fanwork tropes, and this looks like the standard literary genre. (See Help:Tropes and Genres). I'm not sure which template to recommend here. What do you envision for the page? I definitely see a need for a page about children's literature as a source of fannish interest. (The issue with moral panic over adult-rated HP fanfic because the source is considered children's literature could also be relevant. Y/N?) --æþel 02:56, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
Children's Lit at Yuletide
It seems to me that something needs to be said to distinguish the "usual suspects" from the truly rare, nominated-only-once type of fandom. To pull a few examples out of memory: the Swallows and Amazons series gets a few stories every year; Winnie-the-Pooh has several stories in the collection from various years; Cicely Barker's Flower Fairies were requested last year only, but had a few stories written, both in the main collection and in Madness; the Milly-Molly-Mandy stories got asked for once, resulting in the only story in AO3; and Eloise Jarvis McGraw's Sawdust in His Shoes was requested one year, and still has never been written fanfic for. --Greer Watson (talk) 06:23, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- A list of Yuletide children's lit regulars might be useful. Off the top of my head, Chrestomanci, Dark is Rising, Earthsea, Little Women, Neverwhere, Peter Pan, Secret Garden, Swallows and Amazons, Watership Down & Winnie the Pooh have all been written most years, as I recall. Narnia was a regular in the early days. I don't think it would be possible to list the complete children's lit that's ever been written/nominated for Yuletide, there must be thousands of sources. Espresso Addict (talk) 08:48, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- I agree that a comprehensive list would be impractical! :) --Greer Watson (talk) 02:03, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Re History of Children's Literature
The statement that it didn't exist until Victorian times is too broad. Certainly children's books became more *popular* in the 19th century, but prior to then there were readers, alphabet books, and the German morality tales of horrible things happening to bad little children. "Don Quixote" and "Robinson Crusoe" were two books from the 1600s that were considered fine for the whole family to read. Not a major point, but just a little too sweeping a generalization, as well as a Western focus.. Plus, the oral and written traditions of fairy tales, myths, fables (Aesop's tales were in ancient Greek, after all), folklore and religious stories were always available to children everywhere in the world. I would just indicate that printed books for children became popular in Victorian times, and leave out that they did not exist before then. Pcdfanwriter (talk) 03:10, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
More fandoms that could be added
Television show fandoms that are based on or utilized fairy tales and literature for children are:
The 10th Kingdom Grimm Once upon a Time, Alice in Wonderland, Peter Pan The Storyteller (Jim Henson Workshop version) The Wizard of Oz miniseries for cable? (Unusual steam punk reimagining) Strange program based on a British book about a boy in a bizarre castle (blanking on the title...)
Coraline by Neil Gaiman has a lot of popularity and was filmed, not sure about fanworks per se
Pcdfanwriter (talk) 03:21, 16 September 2020 (UTC)