Australian Science Fiction Review/Second Series

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Zine
Title: Australian Science Fiction Review (ASFR)
Publisher: Ebony Books
Editor(s): Melbourne Collective
Date(s): 1986-1991
Frequency: bimonthly
Medium: Print
Size: 35-45 pages on average
Fandom: Science Fiction
Language: English
External Links: Fanac.org; ISFDB
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The ASFR was an Australian science fiction zine. The logo was jointly created by Steph Campbell and John Bangsund.

[1]Issue #1

March 1986. 36 pages, edited by Jenny Blackford, Russell Blackford, John Foyster, Yvonne Rousseau and Lucy Sussex.

Contents:

Reviews and Reactions Issue #1

Issue #2

May 1986. 36 pages, edited by Jenny Blackford, Russell Blackford, John Foyster, Yvonne Rousseau and Lucy Sussex.

Contents:

  • "Dicebamus Hesterna Die" - editorial by John Bangsund (2)
  • "Our Collective Ways" - editorial by Jenny Blackford (3)
  • "The Long View Part 2" - essay by John Foyster (4)
  • "Ethical Culture GT" - essay by Yvonne Rousseau (10)
  • "Morals, Ethics and Viewpoints" - essay by George Turner (17)
  • "Reply to George Turner's Comments" - essay by Yvonne Rousseau (21)
  • "Final Remarks" - essay by George Turner (27)
  • "Final Remarks" - essay by Yvonne Rousseau (28)
  • Reviews:

Reviews and Reactions Issue #2

Issue #3

July 1986. 36 pages, edited by Jenny Blackford, Russell Blackford, John Foyster, Yvonne Rousseau and Lucy Sussex.

  • Articles on the history of magazine sf ("The Long View, Part Three"), on recent Australian sf, plus Wynne Whiteford responding to an earlier article, and reviews.

Reviews and Reactions Issue #3

Issue #4

September 1986. 36 pages, edited by Jenny Blackford, Russell Blackford, John Foyster, Yvonne Rousseau and Lucy Sussex.

Contents:

Reviews and Reactions Issue #4

The reason why I've warmed up the Olivetti again on this occasion is because of Jack Williamson's passing comment that I did a 'hatchet job' of 20 000 words on Legion of Time, way back when we were very young. No hatchet is that long. I was possessed by Legion over many years. I loved the thing. I saw its faults, and took care to point out how they were the faults of the genre at that time; but I believe my careful attention and much of the glee I had in writing it show how I felt about the story. It was rare if not unique at that time, mid-sixties, to find such close textual analysis of an sf text. You - and my friend Jack - will see from Trillion Year Spree (as indeed from Billion) that I set better store by his writing, and, damn it, praise it better, than most other critics of the field. Even twenty years later, I hate to have that article of mine described as a hatchet job. There’s austere for you.


I liked Cherry Wilder’s Van Gogh joke, about advice going in one ear and staying. Here are some similar ones for her next column. What happens if you give advice to A. E. van Vogt? It goes in Nul-A and out the author. What happens if you give advice to Alexander Kinglake? It goes in one era and out Eothen. What happens if you give advice to Verdi? It goes in one air and out Aida. And so on... Triviality knows no boundaries...

Letter - Brian Aldiss - ASFR Vol 2, No. 5

Cherry Wilder’s column in ASFR 4 is a bit disconnected after the initial paragraphs on Chernobyl, but entertaining nonetheless. It's always a small shock to be reminded of the relativity of points of view - not just by the different reactions of people in West Germany, but by details like her spelling Chernobyl in the German fashion, 'Tschernobyl'. (Both spellings, of course, are adaptations to the Latin alphabet, but using the spelling conventions of two different Western languages.) Her descriptions send my mind into meandering paths, making me think how the Chernobyl reporting might have differed in Australia and the United States (here in the Pacific Northwest we were in the path of the cloud as it blew over the Pole, and the disaster fueled a lot of rethinking and renewed protest over proposals for a national nuclear-waste dump, and the cumulative effects of past nuclear tests in the deserts of Utah and Nevada), and other divergences of perspective, such as how the Australian news media have reported the unheavals in South Africa and how their reports and the emphasis they give the stories might differ in a country without the large African-derived black population of the United States.

Letters - John D. Berry - ASFR Issue #7

Issue #5

November 1986. 44 pages, edited by Jenny Blackford, Russell Blackford, John Foyster, Yvonne Rousseau and Lucy Sussex.

Contents:

  • "Dicebamus Hesterna Die" - editorial by John Bangsund (2)
  • "Our Collective Ways" - editorial by Russell Blackford (5)
  • "Fan-De-Siecle" by Cherry Wilder - fannish activities and the Frankfurt Book Fair, plus a filk: (7)
A SIMPLE AMERICAN FILK SONG (Tune: Streets of Laredo)

As I walked out in some Hilton or other

In search of a donut, in search of a drink,

I spied a young tru-fan all wrapped in old fanzines,

Wrapped in old fanzines and filthy with ink!

'I see by your beanie that you are a tru-fan!'

These words he did say as I boldly walked by,

'Turn off your propellor and hear my sad story,

Before I blast off to that Con in the Sky!'

'Twas once in New Jersey I used to read Heinlein,

Once in Atlanta I used to read Pohl

First down to L.A. and then up to Boskone,

Now I-M a-dying - Goodbye and Fiawol!'

(The verses continue until the dying fan gets over his hangover and they both go to breakfast...)

"FAN-DE-SIECLE" by Cherry Wilder

Reviews and Reactions Issue #5

As a longtime follower of the ups and downs of Gene Wolfe’s reputation, and the general air of saying he’s good but not quite being sure of what he's really up to, I really enjoyed Bruce's take on his work [in ASFR vol. 1, no 1]. I can’t read it without being aware of almost a scholar's delight in the writer as he writes out of and against numerous conventions of the genre and of fiction itself; how intriguing to see [in ASFR vol. 1, no. 5] that Wolfe doesn’t really like discussing that aspect of his work.

Letters - Douglas Barbour - ASFR issue #8

Issue #6

January 1987. 56 pages, edited by Jenny Blackford, Russell Blackford, John Foyster, Yvonne Rousseau and Lucy Sussex.

Contents:

One of the great myths about sf fandom is that science fiction is the only literary genre that fosters correspondence between readers and writers. I may be wrong, but I seem to recall that Sir Walter Scott got a fair bit of fan mail, some time before Ms Shelley invented science fiction. Be that as it may (and let Brian Aldiss fend for himself) I have sf fandom to thank for getting up the courage (and some would say developing the gall) to write to authors I've enjoyed reading. It seems a natural thing to do, but it’s obvious that few do it.

DICEBAMUS HESTERNA DIE - John Bangsund

  • "Our Collective Ways" - editorial by John Foyster (5)
Bluntly put, the question is 'is there, or should there be, science fiction after nineteen?’ or 'is science fiction only for teenagers?’ The public image of science fiction - whether as represented in the advertisements upon the backs of which Locus and Science Fiction Chronicle are published or as modelled by the 'kids in costume’ about whom Robert Silverberg has expressed concern - is that it is fiction for young people or, if you prefer it, unsophisticated people. Since we all read science fiction, and the likelihood is that we started reading it in our teens, we can understand the perception that this is the ideal audience at which to aim. But what happens to science fiction readers as they grow older? And must all science fiction writers write only for that age group?


Reporting on the Locus Poll earlier this year, Charlie Brown noted an apparent rise in the age of his readership - which in any case is not, on average, a teenage readership and is, I suspect, somewhat atypical of science fiction readership. But the advertising Locus carries is pitched at teenagers: does it work? One would like to think not, and that rather the Locus readers, veterans of science fiction, were resistant to appeals to teenage power fantasies. If this is right, then publishers are not advertising in Locus to sell books, but to support the magazine (a highly worthy aim in itself). On the other hand, just maybe it is the case that the oldies who read Locus still get off on the kind of science fiction implied by the magazine's advertising.

OUR COLLECTIVE WAYS - John Foyster

In 1971 the Adelaide fan Alan Sandercock wrote to a number of prominent writers asking them to answer two questions relating to the future of science fiction. He intended to use those answers at a science fiction convention. In 1978 the questions, together with their answers, were printed in the first issue of the Adelaide fanzine Auto Delirium (edited by Perry Middlemiss) under the title 'SF in 2001: A Symposium’.

When Australian Science Fiction Review was revived at the beginning of 1986 it struck me that this was now exactly halfway between the time of the initial questions and answers and the time those answers were meant to describe. The answers which had been given in 1971 were themselves inherently interesting, but it could be the case that the writers might want to make some mid-course corrections.
Sandercock had asked these two questions:
What form, if any, do you think sf will take in the year 2001?
and
Is it desirable for sf to gain acceptance with mass-media type audiences?

The rest of the Science Fiction Collective is easily led, and so when I proposed to them that we should invite writers to update their earlier responses they quickly agreed.

SCIENCE FICTION IN 2001: A SYMPOSIUM - introduction by John Foyster

Reviews and Reactions Issue #6

Issue #7

March 1987. 48 pages, edited by Jenny Blackford, Russell Blackford, John Foyster, Yvonne Rousseau and Lucy Sussex.

Contents:

  • "Dicebamus Hesterna Die" - editorial by John Bangsund (2)
  • "Our Collective Ways" - editorial by Jenny Blackford (3)
  • "Auld Acquaintance" by Cherry Wilder - fannish reading and Christmas in Germany (4)
  • "Of Sex, Objects, Signs, Systems, Sales, SF and Other Things" by Samuel R. Delany - article on Dhalgren (9)
  • Review: The Black Grail by Damien Broderick, reviewed by Michael Turner (37)
  • "Would I Write a Fix-Up?" George Turner
  • Letters of Comment from: Samuel R. Delany, Martin Bridgstock, Robert A. W. Lowndes, Patrick McGuire and John D. Berry.
  • Want To Subscribe? (48)

Reviews and Reactions Issue #7

Issue #8

May 1987. 36 pages, edited by Jenny Blackford, Russell Blackford, John Foyster, Yvonne Rousseau and Lucy Sussex.

Contents:

  • "Dicebamus Hesterna Die" - editorial by John Bangsund (2)
  • "Our Collective Ways" - editorial by Lucy Essex (5)
  • "The Alien Corn" by Cherry Wilder - regular column from Germany (6)
  • "The Broderick-Russ Correspondence" - a selection of correspondence between Damien Broderick and Joanna Russ (9)
[Foreword: The letters printed below were written nearly seven years ago, and with no idea of their being published. Both authors mentioned these facts when approached by the ASFR Collective - which nevertheless held that the letters remained relevant and interesting to readers of sf. Despite their reservations, both Joanna Russ and Damien Broderick then gave their permission to publish, and the Collective is very grateful to them.]

THE BRODERICK-RUSS CORRESPONDENCE

  • "Who Is John Norman and Why Is He Saying These Dreadful Things About Women?" by Lucy Sussex - article on the author of the Gor series (19)
    A more Earthly reaction was Michael Moorcock's try at banning Norman in the UK. The September 1986 SF Chronicle reported that Moorcock 'has been attempting to convince * retail distributor W.H. Smith to stop displaying John Norman's Gor books and magazines showing nude women' (p. 25). This move must have been highly endearing to DAW books, who publish Norman's fiction and the non-fiction Imaginative Sex (John Clute in the Encyclopedia of Science Fiction states this book 'argues the sexual bias of the novels very explicitly’ - presumably it is a bondage manual). DAW, incidentally, is now headed by a woman, Betsy Wollheim, and one wonders what she thinks of Norman.

The news of Moorcock drew a reply in the November SFC, from one Jessica Amanda Salmonson, which contained the extraordinary statement: 'I hate those novels, though counting a few sadomasochistic women among my dearer friends' (p. 16). Some of my best friends are... Joking apart, Salmonson defended Norman on the grounds of civil liberties: 'It is far more terrifying that someone of Michael Moorcock’s calibre is able to perform the mental gymnastics necessary to justify any level of bookburning’. In fact, Salmonson is right - Moorcock’s tactics are perilously close to those of the Moral Majority, who are rumoured to pressure distributors to withdraw gay literature in particular.

Sigh. Like Jerry Pournelle's wife, I could not be civil to John Norman if I met him at a cocktail party. However, by gritting my teeth I could possibly defend to the death his right to say that, deep down, I yearn to be whipped, branded and chained. (If anybody actually said that to me I’d...) Should the Moral Majority stop persecuting innocuous children's authors like Robert Cormier, and blacklist the Gor books, though, I doubt I’d be very outraged. But would they? The view of women in Gor is not a million miles from Biblically-sanctioned inferiority."Who Is John Norman and Why Is He Saying These Dreadful Things About Women?"

Reviews and Reactions Issue #8

...If you want to quote my letters, fine. I'm sick of being misquoted however. And nothing's likely to diminish my anger, either. I’m convinced pornography incites many men to acts of violence (many of them 'minor') against women. It also confirms men and women in mutually destructive roles. Better people than me have said this. I’d like to see more ASFRs - it’s about the best magazine in the sf world by the look of this issue.

Michael Moorcock to W. H. Smith & Sons Ltd

12 May 1987

Dear Mr Hornby,

No doubt you’ll remember our correspondence of last year regarding Feminist Book Fortnight and John Norman.

Last year you chose to ignore my points about John Norman and suggest that I was trying to get you to remove the books of a competing author’ from your shelves.

Once again could I suggest you ensure that you display these books out of the reach of impressionable children?

I enclose a recent article (one of several published in the last couple of years) in which the author quotes from one title in the series. Would you care to read it?

I don't think Professor Norman and I are competing for the same readers. I certainly hope we're not.

Letters - Michael Moorcock - ASFR #9

Issue #9

July 1987. 48 pages, edited by Jenny Blackford, Russell Blackford, John Foyster, Yvonne Rousseau and Lucy Sussex.

Contents:

  • "Our Collective Ways" - editorial by Yvonne Rousseau (2)
And John Bangsund has further distanced himself (bringing nostalgic tears to eyes old in fandom, which were dazzled in the past by the degree to which he changed addresses); he has moved ten kilometres north-east to Kingsbury and the street of Clunes - which (as alphabetical readers will instantly realize) is something between Clun (in England's Salop, near Offa's Dyke - which was built by the Saxons to keep off the Welsh) and Cluny (France's Benedictine stronghold, which once contained the largest church in the world); moreover, he is almost in the shire of Diamond Valley, and close to the moat of La Trobe University. These details accord well with his image as Australian fandom's 'mythic link' (a role which, as he mentioned in our fourth issue, was first proclaimed by Bruce R. Gillespie); and this mythic link is not lost to us, but will be manifested anew in letters of comment.

OUR COLLECTIVE WAYS - Yvonne Rousseau

What got up my nose about George Turner's graphic account of Fat Cherry bearing down on poor him like a galleon in full sail at Seacon I in 1979 was the fact that it was pure poetic licence. It Simply Did Not Happen That Way! George saw me on various occasions walloping around in a kaftan and it stuck in his mind. I recall our first meeting perfectly well. I wore trousers. I sneaked through the throng in the lobby and said diffidently, looking down at the neat grey-haired gent in the blue shirt: 'George, is that you?’ Well, the years have passed and one has mellowed. One has published a few books, one has even lost weight. But Life tends to imitate Art. If I spot George (The Little Incorporeal) Turner anywhere within a radius of a hundred yards at Conspiracy I might just be tempted to bellow his name and, kaftan or no kaftan, to bear down on him like the Queen of the Amazons leading a charge ... (and drag him off for a beer).

LIFE’S GRIMM - Cherry Wilder

  • "Twelver Years Ago in John Bangsund's Philospophical Gas" - excerpt from Philosophical Gas Issue #31 (1975).
  • "The Long View, Part 4" John Foyster - essay on Astounding Science Fiction 1943 (8)
  • "Why Australian SF Magazines Fail in the Market" by George Turner - transcript of a talk by Turner at a Nova Mob meeting in March 1087 (30)
  • Reviews (Australian fanzines):
    • Starkindler Issue #5, Spring 1986; reviewed by Lucy Sussex (36)
    • SF International Issue #1, Jan/Feb 1987; reviewed by Russell Blackford (37)
    • Interzone Issue #19, Spring 1987; by Yvonne Rousseau (40)
    • Omega Science Digest Jan/Feb Issue, January 1987; reviewed by Yvonne Rousseau (42)
  • Letters of comment from Doug Barbour and Michael Moorcock, who included a number of articles about his campaign against the Gor novels.

Reviews and Reactions to Issue #9

Issue #10

September 1987. 48 pages, edited by Jenny Blackford, Russell Blackford, John Foyster, Yvonne Rousseau and Lucy Sussex.

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Issue #11

November 1987. 48 pages, edited by Jenny Blackford, Russell Blackford, John Foyster, Yvonne Rousseau and Lucy Sussex.

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Issue #12

January 1988. 48 pages, edited by Jenny Blackford, Russell Blackford, John Foyster, Yvonne Rousseau and Janeen Webb.

Unknown.

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Issue #13

March 1988. 48 pages, edited by Jenny Blackford, Russell Blackford, John Foyster, Yvonne Rousseau and Janeen Webb.

Unknown.

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Issue #14

May 1988. 48 pages, edited by Jenny Blackford, Russell Blackford, John Foyster, Yvonne Rousseau and Janeen Webb.

Unknown.

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Issue #15

July 1988. 48 pages, edited by Jenny Blackford, Russell Blackford, John Foyster, Yvonne Rousseau and Janeen Webb.

Unknown.

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Issue #16

Issue #16 front cover

September 1988. ? pages, edited by Jenny Blackford, Russell Blackford, John Foyster, Yvonne Rousseau and Janeen Webb.

Unknown.

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Issue #17/18

Issue 17/18 front cover

November 1988/January 1989. ? pages, edited by Jenny Blackford, Russell Blackford, John Foyster, Yvonne Rousseau and Janeen Webb.

Unknown.

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Issue #19

March 1989. ? pages, edited by Jenny Blackford, Russell Blackford, John Foyster, Yvonne Rousseau and Janeen Webb.

Unknown.

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Issue #20

? 1989. ? pages, edited by Jenny Blackford, Russell Blackford, John Foyster, Yvonne Rousseau and Janeen Webb.

Unknown.

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Issue #21

Issue #21 front cover

Spring[2] 1989. 32-ish pages, edited by Jenny Blackford, Russell Blackford, John Foyster, Yvonne Rousseau and Janeen Webb.

Contents:

  • "Our Collective Ways" by Russell Blackford - editorial (2)
  • "Cordwainer Smith Revisited" - series of articles
    • "Cordwainer Smith: Five Introductions" by Bruce Gillespie (3)
    • "Paul Linebarger" by Arthur Burns (10)
    • "Cordwainer Smith" by John Foyster (13)
    • "Extracts from a Conversation between John Foyster and Dr. Burns" - transcript (17)
    • "The Mists of Legend" by Marc Ortlieb (20)
    • "How Cordwainer Smith Came Back from Being Nothing-At-All" by Norman Talbot (22)
  • Exchange: "A Letter" by Lucius Shepard - article (27)
  • Exchange: "Desperately Seeking Lucius" - response by John Foyster (29)
  • Letters of comment from: Cy Chauvin; Robert A. W. Lowndes; Franz Rottensteiner; Andrew Picouleau (31-32)

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Issue #22

Summer[3] 1989. ? pages, edited by Jenny Blackford, Russell Blackford, John Foyster, Yvonne Rousseau and Janeen Webb.

Unknown.

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Issue #23

Issue #23 front cover

Autumn[4] 1990. 30-ish pages, edited by Jenny Blackford, Russell Blackford, John Foyster, Yvonne Rousseau and Janeen Webb.

Contents:

  • "Our Collective Ways" by John Foyster - editorial (2)
  • "Interesting Times" by Cherry Wilder - article (3)
  • "Muddying the Waters" by Dave Langford - article? (4)
  • "Memory and Imagination" by Humphrey McQueen - article? (7)
  • "Prophets in the Wilderness" by Patrick McGuire - article? (9)
  • "Too Fly's Eye" by Russell Blackford - article (13)
  • Reviews:
  • Exchanges: A Letter from George Turner (21)
  • Exchanges: A Letter from Lucius Shepard (21)
  • Exchanges: Response from John Foyster (23)
  • Letters of Comment from: Buck Coulson; George Turner; Dave Luckett; Darrell Schweitzer; Norman Talbot (24-30)

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Issue #24

Winter[5] 1990. ? pages, edited by Jenny Blackford, Russell Blackford, John Foyster, Yvonne Rousseau and Janeen Webb.

Unknown.

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Issue #25

Spring[2] 1991. ? pages, edited by Jenny Blackford, Russell Blackford, John Foyster, Yvonne Rousseau and Janeen Webb.

Unknown.

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Issue #26

Summer[3] 1991. ? pages, edited by Jenny Blackford, Russell Blackford, John Foyster, Yvonne Rousseau and Janeen Webb.

Unknown.

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Issue #27

Autumn[4] 1990. ? pages, edited by Jenny Blackford, Russell Blackford, John Foyster, Yvonne Rousseau and Janeen Webb. Final issue.

  • Includes an index to the entire run compiled by Yvonne Rousseau. (One source says it "is" this index, i.e. that there are no other contents.)[6]

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References

  1. ^ Details from the International Science Fiction Data Base (via Wayback May 9/24)
  2. ^ a b Australian Spring, which is September-November
  3. ^ a b Australian summer which is December-February
  4. ^ a b Australian Autumn, March-May
  5. ^ Australian winter, which is June-August
  6. ^ ISFDB, Australian Science Fiction Review, #27, Autumn 1991