Template talk:RelatedLinks

Staring at Template Thoughtfully

I don't actually think People, Places, Things is exactly what we're going for in wording, but I cannot think of anything else. Plus, I'm tempted to add a fourth row for terms--aka sockpuppet, fan writer, et all, like a belated insta-link to all fannish vocabulary used on the page for easy leaping. People = obvious, Places = groups, MLs, boards, archives, Things = events, awards, essays, meta works, et al. Thoughts? I'm also still weirded out by the coloring--maybe something lighter? *frowns* --Seperis 20:52, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Also a smaller, non-bold font for the RelatedLinks. Hmm. Maybe. --Seperis 20:53, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Wouldn't we want to have, for example, a template called uh, for example "StarTrekRelated" that could just be pasted into the bottom of any article, and that way only the main template would have to be updated, and the rest would be kept in sync? Your approach seems like a lot more work for the indiviual articles. --Betty 20:56, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, yes but also, maybe. If Star Trek's size justifies a very specific StarTrek template, awesome. This one, and currently I'm practicing on it with the star trek newsgroups, would be far more general, for say, a page about Trekiverse archive, with related links going out to the newsgroups, et al, or if a particular person has a lot, lot, lot of affiliations--say Livia, founder of ten thousand lists, or Tara LJC, founder of ten thousand archives. I can create, using this as a skeleton, a modified set of RelatedLinks template for whatever fandom would have the same standarded FandomRelatedLinks, if that's what you mean, already pre-filled out with related links. Is that what you meant?

Still not in love with the colors. They feel odd, but the white space otherwise was really glaring. --Seperis 21:08, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Actually, it occurs to me that we could create a teeny template for whatever links within a fandom might be general enough to be used in all relateds for that fandom, and just call that template within this one, whenever we need it. Sort of DRYing it up. Mind if I try fiddling with the colours? --Betty 21:45, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

God bless you for color coordinating. I was mulling the blues, but I couldn't sample fanlore's graphic well enough to get a perfect match. And yes, template within template would work very well, I think, if we can get a standard group of links together for each fandom. --Seperis 22:03, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

If a fandom with a largish grouping--like Trek or Homicide/L&O or maybe Star Wars or whatever--has enough to justify it, a special template can be made for those to use standard. If I add the show/hide for the table, it can be something like Fandom X Related Links, with the standard links (show/hide), then Fan Related links below it, customizable, to be used or not, and kept folded so as to not take up huge amounts of space on the page. It would also allow the insertion of keywords. And allow for future expansion as needed. --Seperis 22:15, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Can you pull me the code for the table of contents that does the show/hide? I found a code to use, but I think using that would reinvent a wheel we already have. I think. I haven't done collapses before, so it's going to be kind of new. The code for TOC itself would do the trick, plz. Or is it available somewhere else? Me and Wiki's help sections are not OTP. --Seperis 22:23, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Frankly, I cannot find any sort of source for the code used in the TOC. The closest thing I can find documented is wikipedia's navbox, which I suppose we could steal copyleft.Betty

Perhaps this is the best solution? [1] But I'd like to talk with hope before introducing javascript willy-nilly. --Betty 01:27, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

That'd work. Tell me when a decision is reached. It'll be, in the long run, far more flexible if we keep a variety of tables and can collapse them as needed, instead of conserving space by making everything follow a too-generic template. --Seperis 01:31, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Betty, I have a very tentative up for Star Trek over in Template:Sandbox. Is that what you were thinking for standard? The nice thing is, it's fairly easy to create. If the table itself is a template, then to make a new one, take table and add to a new template like a new fandom. Call it LinkBox or something. Then if a fandom has enough links, they can pull teh table, copy/paste it into a new template, fill out the info to standard, and save. Tell me if that works for you.

Seems reasonable! --Betty 01:10, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Added Template:RelatedTable for the template for creating a Related Links table. With color options! That is so cool. Though I dont know if the color option is all that useful, since it's not a direct-link table, but one used to create other templates. Er, I think. --Seperis 00:26, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I'm obsessing about this. *G* --Seperis 23:00, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi hi, can I cast my vote for Pink3 and Bermuda Sand? Actually, it doesn't need to be this, but it is the softest color set, and IMO this template calls for soft colors -- it's much too loud and, uhm, garish right now. I'm not sure if your idea was to let the users customize the colors themselves? Because that could lead to confusion -- colors are perceived as information-coded in a wiki, so I would be severely puzzled as to why the template is pink here and yellow there. (Then again, I totally did not figure out the internal/external color codes here, so... >_>) --lian 00:41, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

I am color incompetent. The blues I pulled from the fanlore name above, but if we can find a better combo, I'm all for it. I just left up the combos I tested and figured eventually when other info boxes appeared, there'd be massive movement to color coordinate. You want the pink/sand?

No, this one isn't customizable per person. *g* The other one is customizable, but I figured that one would be to base other tables on, or for in-article formatting if needed. --Seperis 04:27, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Ah, only saw your answer. I'm not coming up with anything better with the color palette that I have, no, so I'll stick with the pink/sand. I wonder if it's too...girly, though? >_> ... I don't much care, though! :3 --lian 06:21, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Template Overlap

Okay, there's overlap for short pages. Adding space after the last sentence and before the table usually gets rid of it, but okay one, why are the templates overlapping? I thought they'd push themselves off each other. Second, is there a way to fix this without hotwiring in some line breaks into the template? Anyone? --Seperis 05:19, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Examples?

Can this already be seen in action somewhere on the wiki? Because I'd like to add it to some of the pages I'm working on, but I'm not quite sure how to go about it (and what to add as related content). Michelle 18:18, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

This is the list of pages that are including the template so far: http://fanlore.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:RelatedLinks . --Arduinna 19:22, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! I think I'll try my hand at this at some point in the future. Though, the rosé really looks awkward. Michelle 18:10, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Color: Revisited

So I know I'm a bit late to the discussion about the template's color, but I don't think the pink fits in very well with the rest of the wiki. I think most of the other templates are shades of blue (except for notices), so maybe this one could be as well? I made up a rough example:

Related Links
People
Places
Things

I also don't know if it's necessary for the links to be italicized. Thoughts? ~ Sparcicle 23:39, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

I agree! The template has been on my 'to fiddle with' list for a long time, and I love your changes. I'll see what the committee thinks, and then hopefully can make the changes. I also don't think it's necessary for the links to be italicised -- it looks kind of weird. --Awils1 13:04, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Has a decision been reached about the colours? I'm currently seeing dark grey font on a black background, which is practically unreadable. --Anenko 20:24, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure about the decision made in 2009, so I just set some defaults as supplied by Sparcicle. I'm aiming to allow all things to be customised by User CSS, so I've made a note on my Fanlore to-do list to add a style to this. --Awils1 01:41, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Colour Inputs Query

So looking at the documentation and code, there seems to be an error here. The documentation says you can input hex1 and hex2 but only hex1 is included in the code. If you update hex1 to be a different colour, it only changes the thin border line around the Links box. It doesn't update the colour of Related Links. So I'm wondering if the code or documentation should be updated?

Do we want to remove the hex1 option and keep the current colours as standard wherever this template is used? Or do we want to update the code to match the description in the documentation (ie. let editors change the row colours)?--Auntags (talk) 18:15, 26 March 2023 (UTC)