Talk:Timeline of Tolkien Fandom

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This is just a first stab at this! Some of the many other things to think about incorporating:

  • detail from Tolkien fandom article on Wikipedia
  • US publication dates at least for main works
  • paperback publication dates ditto

Espresso Addict 02:04, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Also: I'd love to add a mention of the song "What Shall We Do With a Drunken Hobbit," which, by the time I started attending cons in '86, was widely known, or at least known *of*. I've still never actually heard it, and have no idea when/where it first showed up.

Might add a section at the end, after the dated timeline, for "other events" known to be related to the fandom but with unknown dates. --Elfwreck 06:10, 23 September 2012 (UTC)


Is the The LOTR Fanfiction Webring maybe the same as LotR Fanfiction, LOTR Fanfiction Sites or one of other webrings listed in the Category:Lord of the Rings Webrings? --Doro 09:49, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Er, maybe LOTR Fanfiction Sites? I found the reference on the Least Expected site via WBM (but WBM wasn't working for the webring itself), which gave the title as "The LOTR Fanfiction Webring", but now I check back the referring page calls it "LOTR FanFiction Sites Webring". The date would be June 2001. Espresso Addict 11:02, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
Looks like it. Least Expected was a member of LOTR Fanfiction Sites. The here is where you join link on the Wayback version of the page includes the identification name "ring=lotrwomen" in the URL. That's the same identification name that can be seen in all the links in the webring banner on the Wayback version of the Fennelseed website (which is where the LOTR Fanfiction Sites banner is from). I would say that means that The LOTR Fanfiction Webring was the official ring name and Least Expected was the ring owner. :) --Doro 11:28, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
I'm fairly sure Least Expected was the earliest Tolkien slash archive on the web, and perhaps also the earliest fanfic archive (I'm pretty familiar with early Tolkien archives and I'm not aware of an earlier gen one), so that makes sense. It's nice when everything starts to join up a bit, after a Red Link Sea :) Espresso Addict 11:40, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Elrond College

See this article on the Princess Towers at Queen's University.

My sister, fawatson, attended Queen's and lived at Elrond during the late '70s. My recollection of what she told me is that, at the time, it was actually known as "The House of Elrond" (whether or not that was its formal name). Its most prized possession was apparently a letter from Tolkien himself, giving them permission to use the name. --Greer Watson 11:03, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

That's really interesting -- I wonder if that's the kind of hippy US culture that The Tolkien Society was being so snooty about? Espresso Addict 11:43, 6 September 2012 (UTC)


A beautiful timeline! :D One question: What does "HoMe" stand for? --Tiyire 15:44, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! Lots still to do, but I might pluck up courage to actually link it somewhere soon! HoMe is History of Middle-earth, a series of 12 miscellaneous volumes of JRRT's drafts on LotR/Silmarillion edited by Christopher Tolkien. And you're right it should be clarified. I tend to forget that most Tolkien fans these days come from the Jackson films and are even less likely to have poked around in the old back catalogue than bookverse LotR fans. Espresso Addict 22:11, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Mailing Lists

Sons of Gondor probably needs disambiguation. It is linked here as a mailing list but the page is about a LiveJournal community. --Doro 10:39, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

It looks like that was my mistake -- I could have sworn there was a Yahoo list of that name, but I can't find it. Espresso Addict 10:59, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Fan fiction about the Professor?

There's a mention early on in this article about fans writing stories about Tolkien and his early inspirations. I know there's a book in which the events of Lord of the Rings are reality, but it takes place in the present time, and Tolkien is a minor character. An example might be good if you have one... --KTJ (talk) 04:15, 10 January 2013 (UTC)