Talk:Fan Soundtrack Project

So this refers only to soundtracks for the source material? I'm asking because the concept of fan soundtracks for fanfic is older than that. --Doro 20:34, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, mix tapes for favorite pairings or fandoms go back to ... well, back to when they were mix tapes. The term FST may be newish, but the concept isn't. (And probably deserves its own page.)--Penknife 20:55, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

IIRC, the term "FST" was thought up by Ka specifically for this challenge/community (when Tin asked for names, it was one of the suggestions), but I am having a hard time finding a reference for it. At any rate, I've corrected wording on the page so that it no longer sound as if the FST Project created the concept of fan mixes. If there's other rewording/correcting people want to do, go ahead. :) --Bellaboo 21:18, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I'm finding this mildly confusing: it's for fan-mixes for the source, not trading, for example, audio clips from the show, right? --Betty 03:39, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

That is my understanding of the article as well, but is should be made clear somewhere in the first paragraph what "fan soundtrack" means. I assume a fanmix for a source text that lacks music like comics or books.--Ratcreature 04:04, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

I've added one definition of FST and other additional information; does that help clarify?--Bellaboo 14:23, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. Though I've always thought the generic term (outside this specific challenge) for this activity was "fanmix", so maybe that's what ought to go into the "Type" field, rather than "fan soundtrack".--Ratcreature 14:53, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

I hate editing conflicts! *Argh* What I wanted to say is, it does help, yes. I just added fan-mix as part of the explanation because creating fan soundtracks is an activity with a long tradtion and fan-mix (or fanmix) is what it's usually called.--Doro 14:58, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Looks good! All I really know here is the sort-of beginning of the FST Project-- what happened to the community afterwards, and the general history of fan mixes, I don't really know. Thankfully I'm not alone in writing for Fanlore. :)--Bellaboo 16:49, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Um, the reality is more complicated than that. In a lot of anime/manga circles (though not all), fan soundtrack or FST is the common term, not fanmix. The FST community predates the fanmix community on LJ by seven months. Please don't assume that "fanmix" is the standard fannish term for everyone. I don't really know what the best way of adding that point to the article is, but I would like that to be made clear.--Tari 15:06, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

The page originally said that the concept of fan soundtracks became popular shortly after the creation of the FST community. The part of the discussion from 2008 on this page here refers to that because the concept of fan soundtracks has been popular long before that, that's why there is a reference to the glossary term fanmix which has been in use since there were actual mixtapes (on tape). That doesn't mean the terms or the histories of the activity are interchangeable. If the wording is too ambiguous, it should be changed to reflect that context. --Doro 16:57, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

My point was that the FST comm was as far as I know the first community on LiveJournal that organized fan soundtrack-making (or fanmix-making if you prefer) as a communal fannish activity. I'll elaborate on this in text.--Tari 17:33, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

So I actually just added a sentence to the page that says the point I made above; if it needs to be moved elsewhere in the article, let me know.--Tari 15:29, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Interesting! Maybe you could elaborate or add a note (or just copy what you wrote here) to the fanmix page, too? --Tiyire 15:33, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion, I did just that.--Tari 16:44, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Soooo, should we mention why the fanmix community was created? Or is that too drama-llama? A lot of those posts and comments are gone since it was so many years ago (in LJ-time) but I definitely remember a ton of people complaining about how elitist FST was because of the challenge aspect. - inkstone 15:55, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I debated whether or not to mention that but I have no idea where the posts and comments went especially since I didn't know any of the dissenters. At some point later in the week I may go through the admin posts and see if I can dig up something.--Tari 16:44, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

If the reasons for the creation of the fanmix community are relevant to this page, it could be added, but it would probably fit better on a page about that community. However, there is no page for the fanmix community yet, so I would say either add it or don't, whatever you think fits this page best. --Doro 16:57, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Deleted it as requested. The reason why it was brought up though is because the fanmix community on LJ was created in reaction to fst.--Tari 17:33, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure why the creation of the fanmix LJ community is mentioned as there are no other references to it on the page. It looks like it's supposed to infer that the term "fanmix" comes from the name of the community, which would be incorrect. I think the first part of the sentence already makes the point of different usage so this part should be removed: "and the FST livejournal community predates the fanmix community by seven months." --Doro 16:57, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

dot_fst_snark

For the dot_fst_snark section, can anyone remember where the dot_fst_snark vs. fst FST was posted? I actually have it on my computer but I can't find the post on the comm.--Tari 16:44, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

It's not in the dot_fst_snark comm? Hmm, do you think it might be posted under lock? I'm no longer a member since I deleted that LJ account a looooong time ago. I did find this: http://dot-fst-snark.livejournal.com/15062.html - inkstone 16:52, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I found the brainstorming post but I know sjdr actually made a soundtrack which I thought she posted to fst itself? Maybe not. I can't find it under lock at dot_fst_snark.--Tari 17:33, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

If you delete your LJ, does it give you the option to delete all entries & comments made by you or does it preserve those? I'm just asking because I think sjdr deleted her LJ? It might be gone. - inkstone 17:31, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

One of her FSTs is still on fst so I don't think so...? (Whoa redundancy.) Wish LJ had an individual search function; can never make heads or tails of the Yandex thing they have.--Tari 17:35, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Glossary Term

I think this page should be split into two pages because right now most of the confusion comes from the fact that on the one hand it's a page about a specific community/challege and uses the community template but more than half of the page is about a glossary term which would be better suited with the glossary template. My suggestion would be Fan Soundtrack Project for the community/challenge and Fan Soundtrack (currently a redirect) for the glossary term. --Doro 17:19, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

I'd actually like that as I was rather annoyed to see fan soundtrack redirect to fanmix. Unfortunately, I'm not sure exactly how page-splitting works. I'll leave it up to your discretion.--Tari 17:33, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

I think splitting is a good idea. It'll help with the confusion, at any rate. Unfortunately, I have no idea how to do that either or if that's even something a regular contributer can do. - inkstone 23:31, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

I un-redirected the Fan Soundtrack page, added a template, and did an old-fashioned copy & paste job on the sections that looked like they pertained more to FSTs in general than the community. I could be wrong, though. Let me know if that's not what you wanted....--æþel 23:51, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks so much! I think that's enough for us to get started. :) - inkstone 14:03, 16 November 2011 (UTC)