Talk:Darkover

I added the copyright issues section, but it needs citations & more details. Also, it could be retitled; I'm not sure what else to call it. I believe it's the #1 reasons many authors don't read fanfic, and would like that confirmed or denied if possible. --Elfwreck 06:04, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Kdcat added references. I've edited somewhat to attempt PPOV, though it may have ended up with wikipedia-like NPOV; trying to be clear about which facts are known and which are disputed. Lipsum 14:38, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't know if it's worth going in how the tale gets retold and referred to. I've seen descriptions of Marion Zimmer Bradley's work as about to be published, that the fanstory was or was going to be published in one of the Darkover anthologies, and somewhere I saw the idea that it was about filk rather than prose fiction. I've got a vague idea that the story has even been transposed to another author: Anne McCaffrey, perhaps? -- Kdcat 14:55, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

An account by Mercedes Lackey, in a 2006 comment on http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/007464.html -- Kdcat 15:00, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Anne McCaffrey also had an anti-fanfic stance, based on the belief that it threatened her copyrights; she was later given better legal info, and now condones fanfic. Anne McCaffrey's fanfic policy This info should no doubt be included in a Pern entry, but if there's mixups between it & the MZB situation, that might get mentioned on the Darkover page. --Elfwreck 20:07, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Since I've seen the story of how "that one time that crazy fanfic writer sued MZB" mentioned eleventy-billion times, I think it's worth mentioning that it does get retold and distorted. We have Lamb's first-hand account, and we have two (or three, if we want to sandwich Lackey's version in there, which might not be a bad idea) second-hand accounts representing MZB's pov, and that's the closest I think we can get to discovering what really happened. --Lipsum 02:10, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Maybe we need a separate article, just for the controversy?

I've been working on the MZB page, and (stupidly) started working on the controversy there before it occurred to me to look over here. The more I think about it, the more I think we need a full page on this. In fact, maybe we need an "Author's views on fanfic," where we include the whole history of this, and other author's responses to it. What do you guys think? Sherrold 04:03, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

+1 on the separate article --msilverstar 03:15, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

I've made a separate page here: Marion Zimmer Bradley Fanfiction Controversy Franzeska 15:10, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Is there a term for this practice?

"Some female fans of Darkover adopt (formally or informally) the name-structure of the Renunciates/Free Amazons." The Pern fandom has the same (both men and women), as does Star Trek with female "T'Names" as do the subset of Klingon fans (both men and women). Are there any other fandoms that do this with fan names? And if one were interested in making an article about this fannish practice, what would it be called? --Mrs. Potato Head 12:28, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

I'd love to see an article on that, but I have no idea what I'd call it. It reminds me of various things historical reenactors do. Franzeska 16:54, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

The information could go on the Pseudonym page. --æþel 01:58, 29 March 2011 (UTC) [The only page name I can think of is pretty wordy: Fan Names Inspired By Canon)

Perhaps Fan Pseuds Inspired by Canon? And the pseud page is a good place, or maybe its own page. But we'll need some redirects. --Mrs. Potato Head 02:49, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

remove those canon terms?

The Canon Terminology section: I shortened it up a while ago, but wonder how folks would feel about simply taking it out? It's not fannish. --Mrs. Potato Head 18:38, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

If any of the terms are used a lot in zine titles or cons or whatever fannish thing, a definition (and note on fannish use) would be useful here. If a term is likely to be used on only one Fanlore page, you could put the definition on that page instead. (I added brief notes to some Doctor Who zine pages about the origin of some of the strange zine titles.) You could also work some of the definitions into a section on fan responses to gender relations on Darkover, if there's something to say on that topic. :)--æþel 01:31, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I added "Starstone" definition to the zine page; the rest weren't really used anywhere else. And then I got rid of the canon terms. And then, because that was the main reason the "needs more fandom" thing was there, I took that off, too. This page could certainly use more, but it's no worse off then other pages. --Mrs. Potato Head 14:56, 21 February 2012 (UTC)