Westallen vs. Snowbarry

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Event: Westallen vs. Snowbarry
Participants: shippers
Date(s): October 2014 — present
Type: Ship War
Fandom: The Flash
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Westallen vs. Snowbarry is a Ship War that originated in the Twitter and Tumblr fandoms of the CW series The Flash series, arguably between stans of two Barry Allen pairings: Barry/Iris (Westallen) and Barry/Caitlin (Snowbarry).


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Tumblr post to any Snowbarry fans judging them for shipping Barry with Killer Frost, comparing it with Clark/Lex.

As soon as the Arrow spin-off was announced, the (comicsverse canon) Barry Allen/Iris West pairing became popular since it was revealed in one of the episodes that Barry Allen had appeared in on Arrow that he had secretly loved someone, whom fans inferred to be Iris West. It was again hinted who that was to Felicity Smoak, who was worried about him because he was in a coma (see Barry/Felicity for more).

However, with the release of the official trailer for the television series in May 2014, the pairing Barry Allen/Caitlin Snow also started to take off. This created tension with some Iris/Barry fans, either because they felt it wrong that people ship Caitlin with Barry since she was going to become Killer Frost (a villain in the comics) or because they found it ridiculous to ship them.

Tumblr post about being called racist for not shipping WestAllen.

In The Flash TV series, the character of Iris West is racebent from white (in the comics) to a POC, making Iris/Barry a putative interracial couple. Caitlin Snow, on the other hand was cast as white (consistent with the comics character). For this reason, after the premiere of the first episode, Snowbarry fans were automatically accused of being racist[1] on Tumblr and Twitter.

However, there are many Snowbarry fans who like Iris or like the gen relationship between Barry & Iris or even a potential romantic relationship between them [2]. This goes the same for Iris and Barry/Iris fans; some actually do like Caitlin Snow and the gen relationship between Barry & Caitlin. In fact, there were many comments on Tumblr from people who said they liked both ships and couldn't decide between them. This often led to them being accused of being indecisive or copping out[3].

The pairings Caitlin Snow/Ronnie Raymond and Iris West/Eddie Thawne are also sometimes affected by the controversy, since, in Season One, Iris is canonically in a relationship with Eddie Thawne, and Caitlin is still in love with Ronnie (her fiancé whom she believed to have died in the explosion, though later revealed to have become Firestorm).

This led to a lot of hateful comments on both sides, countered by various pleas on both sides for stopping the unnecessary Ship War. Many fans expressed negative sentiments towards the entire conflict, feeling it was ridiculous - that it doesn't matter who or what you ship. Despite this, many blogs on both sides of the ships end up with negative comments. Some Snowbarry fans are asked for "proof" of being POC if they are shipping Snowbarry[4].


The actors involved are aware of the hate (though it's not certain on what level), likely due to their personal or the official The Flash Twitter feeds being inundated with negative commentary about their respective characters. Both Candice Patton[5] and Danielle Panabaker experience hate and negative comments on Twitter.[6][7]

Grant Gustin defends his co-workers and often blocks Twitter/IG accounts that have hateful comments[8][9].


Results of the Conflict



  1. I hate that people claim that I'm racist, Archived version tumblr post by duaedenateist on 10 October 2014; Snowbarry and Westallen, Archived version tumblr post by pinkmoos on 9 October 2014.
  2. "You see more hate from wa shippers than sb because", Archived version anon ask answered by justanother90sbaby on 22 December 2014. Thread reblogged by snow-bellarke-barry 24 December 2014
  3. Anon asks forever-erica Do you ship Barry and Iris or Barry and Caitlin more?, Archived version thread reblogged by blackgirlsparadiseNov 16th, 2014. See also So... Snowbarry vs. Westallen, Archived version tumblr post by 1-l-in-olicity on 16 October 2014 (accused of polluting the Westallen tag).
  4. Anon doesn't believe allen-and-snow (snow-bellarke-barry) and Picture of allen-and-snow requested due to the anon didn't believe her.
  5. On 11 February 2015, stavosacosta (crystalreed) on tumblr posted screenshots of a Twitter user "caityallenxoxo" calling Candice a racist slur. Although the slur has been deleted from the current posts, there are continued racists comments made about Candice Patton.
  6. [1]
  7. Twitter user cut Panabaker out of the photo and is the first comment on the photo with a lot of likes. Disrespectful and disgusting (13 January 2018)
  8. [2]
  9. See Can you maybe explain what happened with Grant and/or Candice? I'm so confused cause I can't find a proper explanation anywhere
  10. See don't fucking tag your sb with westallen, Archived version tumblr conversation circa 12 January 2015, started with an anon ask answered by snow-bellarke-barry. snow-bellarke-barry revealed the truth about "westallen-bitches" (reblog by iriswest-allenreports, original post deleted, Archived version); some believe & support her and others feel it's a fake cover up.