Talk:Squick
Hm. Should embarrassment squick be separate? While the root is the same, I think the embarrassment or situation squick isn't the same thing other than in the negative connotations. --Seperis 17:18, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
- I'd call "embarrassment squick" a subset of squicks. Perhaps someone could add a list of specific squicks and include "embarrassment squick" in it? As in "Examples of squicks include...."--Aethel 18:43, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
- I agree, but, hmm. I think this is a matter of semantics, actually. Probably a list of common non-sex-related squicks might help, and used in example. --Seperis 00:49, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
My Thoughts on Yaoi: this definition doesn't appear to create a sense of squick as a powerful aversive sensation. If asked, I would not have defined a squick as a "turn-off" but as something that inspires distaste and knee-jerk withdrawal and/or anger. (Among my kind, "watch from the hall" is what we call the embarrassment squick, because it's so bothersome you can't even watch it through your fingers and have to leave the room when it's happening.) Is this my idiosyncratic usage, or do others agree that the definition could be strengthened? --Vee 02:43, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
- I like your thought on yaoi. I'm just not sure how it could be reworded. Maybe a secondary definition added using the embarrassment squick example? --Seperis 02:50, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, man. I am with you. I don't follow a yaoi fandom, but that's my definition of squick as well. I'll see if I can make the statement stronger. --rache 03:06, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
- "Thoughts on yaoi" is not literal. Do we not have a page for thoughts on yaoi yet? XD --Kyuuketsukirui 03:09, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
- The original meaning of squick (coined on a BDSM newsgroup) was something that made you ill to even think about, but in fandom its use has got really diluted to where you see it in exchange fests as just a synonym for "stuff I don't want to write or receive". --Kyuuketsukirui 03:09, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
- Go ahead and fix up what I put it. I liked the quote from Vee and wanted to use it, but it may not be stated right. --rache 03:11, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
What's the relationship between "squick" and "anti-kink"?
Is anti-kink and earlier term? I've seen it used in 1998. --MPH (talk) 13:02, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
- "anti-kink" does not sound like a fannish term. It sounds like a moral position--that you are morally opposed to kink. "Squick" is just anything you don't want to read/watch because it grosses you out.--aethel (talk) 19:42, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
2000 usage
I just added a 2000 cite to the page, but now am concerned that "squick" is being used in that article like "kink." Could others weigh in on the use of the term and if it was used appropriately by the journalist? --MPH (talk) 00:05, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
- Seems correct to me. It talks about a kink story containing the warning "blood as lube" because what turns one on grosses out another. So the person who wrote the story with the kink "blood as lube" was aware that the same thing might be a squick for other readers and warned accordingly, thus the comment that fans seem tolerant of each other's "squicks". --Doro (talk) 19:41, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
1989 usage??
Oblaque: Some people find it twisted and kinky, I find it twisted, kinky and deeply enjoyable (even if I can end up slightly squicked or depressed after reading some of the stories).--aethel (talk) 03:44, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
- While the reviews on Proctor's site are rarely dated, I think that the review of this 1989 zine was written in the early 2000s. Another clue that the review was written well after 1989 is: "This is one of the earlier "milder" Oblaques (the issues from IV onwards seem to have been harsher and weirder) but it's still got enough dark to give a hearts and flowers slash fan the screaming abdabs for a week..." --MPH (talk) 12:36, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
Definitions
Does anyone have thoughts about the usage of "squick" as outlined in the 2006 definition I added under the subheading "Alternate Definitions"? To my mind, there's a pretty clear distinction between that definition and the way I more frequently see "squick" used - but I'm thinking it's also pretty clearly related to "squickfic," and to the cite re: the HP incest fic from 2003...I'm not sure if I've set the 2006 quote up properly and would appreciate another set of eyes. Not sure if I'm just missing some past context. Relatedly, I'm wondering if anyone has a good cite for the bit in the intro about how the definition has changed over time. - Fandomgeographies (talk) 13:31, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- Another thought about that sentence in the intro, which I've marked with the citation needed template - this post, which is cited elsewhere, seems to somewhat contradict the idea that the usage has changed that drastically over time, but I'm not sure? - Fandomgeographies (talk) 15:05, 16 August 2018 (UTC)