Category talk:1970s Conventions

On proposed deletion

We have a few new-ish Convention categories that are organised by decade instead of by year. This seems like it could be useful. Looking at a few pages in one of the year categories - some pages only have a year category for the first year the con ran, but it ran for multiple years and may still be running. Other pages have an excessive number of year categories.

I don't edit a lot of con pages so I'm not sure how people would prefer them to be categorized, but I feel there could be benefits to keeping these categories and populating them with pages from the individual year categories --Auntags (talk) 23:48, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

I can see value in both "1974 conventions" and "1970s conventions." I understand that some decades are sparse right now, but the hope is to eventually have a lot of convention pagess. I think it's useful to see a list of conventions by decade, especially for cons that ran for a few years and then stopped. - Elf (talk) 18:43, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks Elf! Do you mean that if a con ran for multiple years it should be in the relevant year and decade categories? That would result in a lot of categories on each page. Related to this, MPH gave the following example over on Category talk:Meta by Year -- "Pages like archives, and websites, and long-running cons (for instance Shore Leave (US convention)) have many, many individual years as categories, which can be cumbersome and arduous. Are we okay with that? (My vote is yes, but others may disagree.)" --Auntags (talk) 21:56, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

I'd expect a multi-year con to have individual con pages for each year (...if there's enough differences to mention them), or to be listed in both "first year" and "first decade." I'm unsure if a long-running convention should be listed in several decades, but I'm leaning toward "yes" - when I look for 2010s conventions, it's useful for me to know that Escapade was still active even though it started in 1991. Worldcons might have a page for each con - which might be in both their year category and their decade category, and "Worldcon" might have 8 decades. (Wikipedia gets around this with a "Recurring events established in 1939" category. So maybe we have "Conventions started in X year" or "cons started in X decade" as a category, separate from "90s conventions" which might include conventions whose full run happened in the 90s.) - Elf (talk) 23:42, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

What I've been doing is using the specific date/convention category for the date the convention started and then using the decade categories to cover how long it runs (for example [[Category: 1969 Conventions]], [[Category: 1960s]], [[Category: 1970s]]) Rossi (talk) 02:36, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

I personally don't find the categories with a full decade helpful, but don't object to them being on the page, as others find them valuable. I would very much like to keep the individual years on them, though. I know it can look lengthy for long running cons, but since it's at the bottom, it's not really a readability issue. I find these individual years very helpful when wikilinking things, figuring out what cons people are talking about in reports and other historical statements, and valuable to ascertain the number and type of cons in any given year.

Some years are sparse, but there are so many cons out there, that I have confidence other year categories will get bigger. MPH (talk) MPH 12:26, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

i have no doubt that the year categories will get bigger, and think they should all stay! Beyond that, I don't have a preference but I will point out Wordcon is currently only in century categories - Category:20th Century and Category:21st Century. And its not the only convention is those two categories. --Auntags (talk) 20:24, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

So is it okay to remove the deletion proposal at this point? idk how long it's usually left up after people speak on the usefulness of keeping a category? -JadedPrism (talk) 22:01, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

It looks like there is a use for this categorisation after all - added an amended description from another decade category for clarification and removed the Attention Gardeners flag. -- Rossi (talk) 17:38, 18 July 2023 (UTC)