User talk:AceDracule

Hi AceDracule, welcome to Fanlore! I hope you will enjoy your time as an editor. I will assume in good faith you did not see the comment on Vivziepop or that you do not yet know how to use an article's talk page, as your revisions to VivziePop have started a discussion on it's talk. We use talk pages to suggest large changes first, and we do not remove large parts of articles even if they are controversial or we disagree with them. Instead, we attempt to be truthful of the varied opinions represented by fans/fandom, positive and negative, regardless of any editor's personal opinion. This is part of our Plural Point of View Policy.

I would strongly recommend that you visit the talk page and discuss changes you'd like to suggest on it. You can learn about talk pages here, and you can find Vivziepop's talk page here. After adding a comment to a talk page, you can sign it with ~~~~ to sign your name and the date. Patchlamb (talk) 13:00, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Account Suspended

Hi AceDracule,

This notice is to inform you that your repeated removals on VivziePop are considered vandalism and hostile editing, which do not comply with our accepted policies. Additionally, you have ignored Policy & Admin attempts to communicate and called editors "moron" in the editing history. As a result, you have been blocked from editing indefinity.

If you wish to continue editing Fanlore, please review our Deceptive Practices policy, Plural Point of View policy and our Ethical Standards for Community & Content to understand why we do not allow these types of edits on the wiki.

--Patchlamb (talk) 19:21, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi I would like an actual explination when I was not being hostile I was being rather polight at first but after repeatedly showing what the international laws are surrounding slander and the like even providing websites as proff that the law was being broken it was never taken seriously.

Also if someone can't take a simple light insult should they really be online at all.

Here is the same link I have provided everytime that outlines the slander and clear cut defamation I have been attempting to remove.

https://www.legalline.ca/legal-answers/defamation-laws-cyber-libel-and-the-internet/ AceDracule (talk) 19:41, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Also your not okay with me removing an entire section that was clear cut slander and decimation as outlined by legal international sources and I'm the one at fault for actually following the law? Really think about that one AceDracule (talk) 19:42, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Also just so you are aware law trumps policy I've spoken to numerous police officers about this point so I know the facts I know how the law views it and I know it is ilegal point blank to put out slanderous defamatory statements about someone online AceDracule (talk) 19:45, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi AceDracule, Fanlore is a large community of editors who work together and collaborate to make articles accurate and unbiased as possible, which often includes documenting both positive and negative events and a range of opinions on those events. I attempted to engage with you for collaboration using the VivziePop talk page to consider ways to mitigate disproportionate controversy sections, and additionally explained on your talk page that, on Fanlore, we do not remove content on the basis of simply disagreeing with or disliking it. This is in accordance to our Plural Point of View policy.

The attempts to contact and collaborate with you were ignored, and you instead continued to remove content back and forth with another editor and then used insulting language towards them. This is called an "editing war." Insulting other editors and editing wars are not allowed on Fanlore, and go against our Hostile Editing Policy. Removing large parts of articles without discussing those changes first on the talk page is also considered vandalism, and in accordance with our Deceptive Practices policy: "Vandalism is subject to Fanlore's hostile editing policy and may result in permanent banning. An account used primarily or solely for vandalism will be banned without warning."

I trust that this provides more context for this decision. Patchlamb (talk) 21:07, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Laws trump policy there buddy there for the link I sent you outweighs the policies you have listed of nulling them AceDracule (talk) 21:27, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Look up what laws your currently breaking. Federal and government laws will and always have outweighed policy of any company I have seen entire sites taken down from breaking this simple law AceDracule (talk) 21:29, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Something else you may want to consider is my wording, am I speaking about policy or am I speaking about an international law that everyone online is expected to adhear to regardless of personal feelings AceDracule (talk) 21:31, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Your wanting me to follow a policy I didn't even knew existed let alone your wording there as you put it "Vandalism is subject to Fanlore's hostile editing policy and may result in permanent banning" how can you claim vandelism when nothing was damaged no physical property as outlined by law was destroyed AceDracule (talk) 21:33, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Also I never saw any attempt from you at communicating at all I check regularly and saw nothing so that Is a void statement you've made AceDracule (talk) 21:34, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

I appologies if I have somehow bruised your Ego but I know the legal system and the laws for online AceDracule (talk) 21:36, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Libel and slander, known broadly as defamation, are untrue statements made by someone that are harmful to someone else’s reputation. The statements can be about a person, business, organization, group, nation, or product that tends to hurt the person’s reputation. Also, the false statements must be made to other people, not just to the person it is about. Libel refers to written statements and slander refers to oral statements. Under the law, both are grounds for a civil lawsuit.

Cyber-libel is a term used when someone has posted or emailed something that is untrue and damaging about someone else on the Internet, including in message boards, bulletin boards, blogs, chat rooms, personal websites, social media, social networking sites, or other published articles. If you are suing because your reputation was damaged due to a libellous statement, you do not have to prove that it caused you financial loss because the law presumes that you suffered a financial loss as a result of the loss of your reputation

AceDracule (talk) 21:39, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

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Ontario Libel and slander, known broadly as defamation, are untrue statements made by someone that are harmful to someone else’s reputation. The statements can be about a person, business, organization, group, nation, or product that tends to hurt the person’s reputation. Also, the false statements must be made to other people, not just to the person it is about. Libel refers to written statements and slander refers to oral statements. Under the law, both are grounds for a civil lawsuit.

Cyber-libel is a term used when someone has posted or emailed something that is untrue and damaging about someone else on the Internet, including in message boards, bulletin boards, blogs, chat rooms, personal websites, social media, social networking sites, or other published articles. If you are suing because your reputation was damaged due to a libellous statement, you do not have to prove that it caused you financial loss because the law presumes that you suffered a financial loss as a result of the loss of your reputation.

The basic elements of defamation law remain unchanged on the Internet. Individuals or entities are still responsible for defamatory statements they publish, just as they are in print or broadcast media, and the same defences apply. Courts have also demonstrated they are not willing to allow Internet defamers to claim anonymity.

Generally, a harmful statement will not amount to libel, if one of the following defences applies:

Made only to the person it is about. If it was only made to the person mentioned in the statement, and not to anyone else; AceDracule (talk) 21:39, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

That is how the law is written can you now see how you posting fabricated slanderous assumptions is illegal now I was never in the wrong AceDracule (talk) 21:41, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

So when I was simply trying to have laws followed and adheared too how am I in the wrong for protecting someone's reputation AceDracule (talk) 21:45, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

How much trouble would you be in in vivzie found the article and removed the slanderous defamation herself would you still fight that or yeld because it's the person removing information she has requested to stop being posted only to find it has again been posted after the request to stop the harassment AceDracule (talk) 21:47, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Actually if she did you wouldn't stand a chance she would likely just start the process of placing charges. Or do you enjoy hurting others reputations AceDracule (talk) 21:48, 21 July 2023 (UTC)