Talk:X/1999

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Why was X split into manga and anime? All other anime/manga fandoms are collected on one page. Were two X pages intended? --Extempore 21:20, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by split--the fact that it has both categories? I would guess by the categories and the way the short intro is worded that it was all meant to be on the one page. But, more importantly if best practice is to combine for this fandom, that's what should be done. If it needs splitting out later for whatever reason that can always happen.--facetofcathy 22:36, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
I mean the fact that the page is called "X (manga)" instead of just X. It implies that there is a page called "X (anime)" and "X (OVA)" as well. Many successful series have both, manga and anime adaption, but the fandom usually includes all of that (see Fullmetal Alchemist, for example, where the plot differs in manga and in anime). --Extempore 05:25, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
The creator of this page called it X (manga) for disambiguation reasons because there is also X (fanartist) so X isn't free to go to either of them. If the current name doesn't work, you can suggest a different disambiguation. --Doro 05:43, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Ah I see. I didn't know that fanartist, to me X brings always the anime/manga to my mind. ;) Right now, I can't think of another way to differentiate between the fanartist and the media fandom. It just made me hesitant to add anime related information or images.
Thing is that all three aspects of X (manga, X TV and OVA) are pretty much equal when it comes to popularity (X TV and OVA have different endings which led to many discussions) and as the animations are actually finished they are often taken as starting point for fanfiction. (At least it was like that when I was still frequenting the fandom years ago, no idea, if that has changed.) Then again, the manga was here first and CLAMP are mangaka first and foremost... Argh, CLAMP fandom already gave me a bit of a headache when I uploaded images as I wasn't sure what fandom categories applied (I resorted to tagging them only as anime/manga) since fandoms tend to overlap a lot... --Extempore 06:44, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
I have just started working on a page for a X/TB fanfiction and I realized during the work that I'm not writing X (manga)/Tokyo Babylon, but X/Tokyo Babylon. It just feels... wrong to narrow X down to the manga (even, if it's just to seperate it from the fanartist). And while it's known as X/1999 as well, that's not the primary name. So I suppose people will just have to do one more click from the disambiguation page. =/
I still haven't quite grasped the hierarchies on this site. Both, fandom and artist fall under the main category of Fandoms by Source Text, yes? X_(manga) as a site falls under the main category of... what? And it has no fandom category as of yet. Could that be named X? This is all rather confusing... ^^;; --Extempore 07:47, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Keep in mind that I don't know these fandoms at all, so take my suggestions with a grain of salt. ^^° We *could* disambiguate the fandom page as X (manga, X TV and OVA) if you think that would be more appropriate (renaming a page is something any gardener can do, so you could just stick a notice to the page (you find these under templates) and ask. You could also make a page called X/1999 when there is no other page with exactly the same name. (ETA: The page already exists but redirects to X (manga). Is this a separate fandom? I have no idea. In any case, you could remove the redirect code from the X/1999 page and add content instead.) With regard to the category, yes, you could name it Category:X. The fanartist is a person so she falls under Category:Fans which is a subcategory of Category:People. X (manga) has the categories Category:Anime and Category:Manga. The fandom category Category:X would fall under Category:Fandoms by Source Text. --Doro 08:12, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
X/1999 is the same fandom although the denotation refers to the OVA, as far as I remember. The manga is called X and the anime series X-TV. In fandom all turned pretty much into X/TB as Seishirou and Subaru (originally from TB) are an integral part of X and their history plays into their actions. I guess, keeping it as it is now is the best course. =/ I'll create the Fandom Category X then (and Tokyo Babylon as well while I'm at it). --Extempore 09:07, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
ETA: I see that AO3 has X/1999 as main category for the fandom, so does fanfiction.net. So perhaps it's better to do the same here and rename the site to X/1999? --Extempore 09:27, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
At least it would be consistent. If you think it should move to to X/1999 we can do so. Should I stick a notice to the X (manga) page so that a gardener can move it? (We rename the pages instead of just c&p the content from one page to another because that way the page history won't be lost.) --Doro 10:34, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Unless someone disagrees with that, please do. Is it possible to rename the fandom category, too? I created it as X. --Extempore 10:39, 6 May 2011 (UTC)