Talk:The Johnlock Conspiracy
I've started to work on expanding this page, and the first step has been a major restructuring. For now, I've mostly just moved things around and added new sections, but if there are any issues/differences of opinion about the page, let's definitely discuss here. (One of my main goals is to expand the sources, particular re: meta, and to then put things in roughly chronological order - but I think this will take some time.) - Fandomgeographies (talk) 01:52, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
Ready to remove Examples Wanted/Needs Expansion templates?
Okay! So, nearly seven months later, checking back in. Obviously, there's still tons of information that could be added to this page, and I hope other editors continue to do so! But I personally think that we could remove the Examples Wanted/Needs Expansion templates from this article. Would love to hear from other editors on this, and to hear if there's anything that seems glaringly missing. (Personally, I think the Series 4 Aftermath subsections would benefit from more fleshing out, but the bare bones are there.) - Fandomgeographies (talk) 03:05, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
- I think the notices that are up now are ready to be removed! This page is so impressive, although if it gets expanding much more iI think it will need subpages or breakoff articles or something, it's very long. But impressive. Have I mentioned being impressed, wow. - Hoopla (talk) 04:14, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- As it is, I wonder if there should be a separate page for TJLC Controversy? – caes (talk) 04:29, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- Personally, I don't necessarily think so - the controversies are sort of a central part of the whole thing? I could see spin-off pages for specific subtopics at some point, but not something that general...at least not right now. But since I've edited the page so heavily, it's probably better for other editors to weigh in on that. If the length of the page is an issue, the meta section is an area where I think more pages could be broken out and that could be reduced. (I also think that long pages are fine, as long as they're structured.) - Fandomgeographies (talk) 04:42, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- More pages for the meta section is a good idea! Would a "TJLC Meta" or "TJLC Discussion" page be appropriate, or is it standard to stick to individual pages? – caes (talk) 04:56, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- I think individual pages for each meta would be best - but actually, there are already pages created for most of the meta mentioned here. I think it's important to retain some information about prominent meta on this page, since it's a fan theory largely driven by meta, but if someone wanted to take a look at pushing more info about the specific year-by-year metas to other pages, that could work. Another alternative is to create a chronology page, but I don't actually think there's quite enough TJLC meta (on Fanlore) to warrant that right now, personally. - Fandomgeographies (talk) 05:10, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- More pages for the meta section is a good idea! Would a "TJLC Meta" or "TJLC Discussion" page be appropriate, or is it standard to stick to individual pages? – caes (talk) 04:56, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- Personally, I don't necessarily think so - the controversies are sort of a central part of the whole thing? I could see spin-off pages for specific subtopics at some point, but not something that general...at least not right now. But since I've edited the page so heavily, it's probably better for other editors to weigh in on that. If the length of the page is an issue, the meta section is an area where I think more pages could be broken out and that could be reduced. (I also think that long pages are fine, as long as they're structured.) - Fandomgeographies (talk) 04:42, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- As it is, I wonder if there should be a separate page for TJLC Controversy? – caes (talk) 04:29, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- Uh, yeah, I spoke pretty vaguely there and I regret it because I don't think any of the sections right now have too much information, and I disagree with the removal of this information to a separate page. I don't think any decisions about spin-off pages, especially on an article this long and complex, should be made without ample time for consideration and discussion, and I wasn't saying that the article should be shortened. It's a fine length, I just think there are some related topics that might need their own pages in the future, like the fail_fandomanon section, because I think a good page on the topic would be a mostly-unrelated wank recap. But, again, information should not be removed from this page and we should discuss pages first. - Hoopla (talk) 05:17, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, Hoopla! I agree with you re: that edit and the page in general. Since I've been editing the page for a long time, I'm going to step back and listen to other editors hopefully chime in re: the templates and anything that might be missing from the page. - Fandomgeographies (talk) 05:21, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
I went ahead and removed the templates. I'm thinking about creating a chronology page for a timeline of TJLC meta, which could then be linked from the Meta subsection here to improve readability while also retaining general information about meta as a practice in TJLC, and info about prominent meta. - Fandomgeographies (talk) 22:33, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
- Is a timeline for the fandom also worth considering? A timeline for Sherlock BBC or even a timeline for misc Sherlock Holmes fandoms would be interesting. – caes (talk) 03:41, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
Fandom Wars
If "Fandom Wars" category is appropriate for this page, it should probably be added to the Johnlock Conspiracy category instead.--aethel (talk) 03:17, 4 March 2019 (UTC)