Talk:Smarm

As this is essentially a 'spin off' of the Hurt/comfort fandom, I am planning on folding this information back into the main page and setting this up as a redirect. --rache 18:53, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Smarm seems to me to be a distinct term; I don't think merging would be helpful. -- Kdcat 19:07, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree. I always thought smarm referred to the intense relationship between the characters. And that smarm does not necessarily mean the story is h/c as well. --Rodo 19:10, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Can you go into a little more detail about the non-H/C aspects, and maybe add them into the main page? That would really help me keep it separate. --rache 19:18, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Smarm, as the page defines it (and as I saw it defined somewhere else), refers to two (male) characters who are very good friends and express that with words and gestures, while not being in a romantic and/or sexual relationship. I just don't see why that would need hurt and/or comfort to work. --Rodo 19:32, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Ah, I found "The Death of Smarm", which really clears it up for me. I will add the link and the info to the main page.--rache 19:36, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

In the Xenaverse the term smarm was unknown but these stories were sometimes referred to as romantic friendship. The The Romantic Friendship Index defined it as a friendship so close that it resembles a romantic liason. The friends are both affectionate and attentive to one another and much rather spend time with each other than others. But this is not a sexual relationship. Should that go on this page or a separate glossary page? It wasn't a wildly popular genre and there probably isn't much to say about it, that's why I thought about adding it to "Smarm".--Doro 22:07, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

I think since it's obviously a very closely related meaning, it should go on this page, with some context. --Betty 22:09, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it sounds like probably a note on this page would be enough. If at some point it turns out to need its own page, it can always be added later. --Kyuuketsukirui 22:32, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

I added this to the page. There is a Whoosh! article that described the Xena/Gabrielle relationship as romantic friendship and that's where the term comes from. When I have time I'll try to find the article. --Doro 22:44, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Bromance

Is bromance the new smarm? Its own glossary term? To be redirected somewhere? --Mrs. Potato Head 01:21, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

bromance is a nonfannish, mainstream term describing homosocial behavior with a very defensive no homo vibe. If fandom has redeemed it in some way or produced a lot of meta on the subject, I would love to see a page about it. In the meantime, I am reminded that we have a Homophobia in Fandom article, but no Homophobia and Fandom.--æþel 03:45, 12 July 2012 (UTC)