Talk:One Direction Fandom Wars
This is mostly new content or content moved from Larry Is Real in the process of reorganizing it. See Talk:Larry_Is_Real for details. --Rougeandtonic (talk) 04:25, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
"Het Girls"
Can we please remove the biphobic references to "het girls" from this article? Furthermore, the Larries vs. Non-Larries section is fundamentally unsound and needs an overhaul. It is not describing traditional ship wars by any stretch of the imagination.
POV issues
The antis vs. larries section is just wildly fanciful and clearly written from the larrie point of view. An anti is a blog that debunks larrie claims. It's possible that some of them are harassing larries, but this is not some kind of evil gang systematically harassing fans; this is a group of blogs chatting with each other and answering asks and screencapping and commenting on larrie theories. We could change the section to indicate that larries are claiming these things. Every sentence would have start with "Larries claim that..."
The Fans vs. stalkers needs a big Citation Needed sign on it. If they are stalkers, why would they get "preferential treatment from the band"?
To be honest, the entire page is suspect, but I don't know enough about shipping wank to make edits.--aethel (talk) 23:35, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Also I don't appreciate all the harassment of/by larries being moved here from the Larry is real page. That was important context for explaining how the conspiracy theories evolved and why people don't like Larry tinhats.--aethel (talk) 23:38, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
4 years later, I've labeled larrie views, added other views, and apart from the Fans vs. stalkers section, I think most of the POV issues are resolved. I don't even know if the fans vs. stalkers section has a POV issue; I just don't know what it is about. OK to remove flag?--aethel (talk) 00:08, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
- P.S. I removed the PPOV template since I was the one who added it, and I fixed all the problems I could see, plus the "Het Girls" issue noted above, but the page could still use another pair of eyes on it.--aethel (talk) 03:46, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
Twitter fans vs ?
The section "Twitter Fans vs Tumblr Fans" didn't contain much material related to a supposed rivalry between twitter and tumblr specifically, so I updated it to Twitter Fans vs Everyone. However, there's an academic quote from William Proctor in this section that seems only tangentially related to either topic. It's interesting, and its placement in the section hints at a possible reason why other fans find twitter fandom cringe, but Proctor's paper isn't concerned with inter-platform rivalries. Given who added this quote, I can't help suspect that this was intended to lead up to a larrie argument, although Proctor's quote isn't about larries specifically but all 1D fandom on twitter. If there's a larrie argument intended, it would be about how the media is misrepresenting fandom. Or the original editor thought it was interesting but didn't know where to put it. Here's the original version of the page for reference. Should the quote be moved/removed?--aethel (talk) 00:02, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
I found another issue: "the band members have shown awareness of activities on Tumblr" has a note about Louis acknowledging a Tumblr fashion account. I found the account. HOWEVER, the account is on several social media sites, and the interviewer specifically asked him if he'd heard of ltfashionarchive on insta, not tumblr[1], so this is not proof. I do vaguely recall a Liam interview where he said something about announcing getting an official Tumblr and Liam seeing fans say something like "Quick, everybody hide!" and Liam's comment was that they don't think we see it, but we see it. Did I dream this interview? Does anyone remember it?--aethel (talk) 03:15, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
- Two other notes in the same section need a factcheck:
- "Harry Styles mentioned that following their first performance of What Makes You Beautiful in 2011, he searched Twitter for criticisms of his own performance."
- "Niall's Twitter frequently drags fans who are discussing him whether he's been tagged or not."
--aethel (talk) 23:16, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
- If the two examples above can't be factchecked, we could use the FOUR Hangout from 2014 instead--they talk about twitter several times, at ~13 minutes--and in response to the album leak at ~15:45 they talk about reading fan comments to each other arguing over whether to listen to the leaked album.[2]--aethel (talk) 23:38, 14 February 2024 (UTC)