Talk:Moresome

I don't think this should be a redirect to either polyfic or polyamory, because it's often used to mean specifically "a story with more than three people sexually involved," and should really be its own glossary term, like threesome. I'll stub out this page this morning if I have time.--Penknife 12:38, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

I can see that the concepts are slight different, but I find it cumbersome that there are now a gazillion really short pages already for so closely related concepts, genres and terms that explain much of the same thing and often repeat part of what is said in the other entries that cover a slightly different thing. I.e. threesome, polyfic, polyamory, OT3, OT4, GroupSlutFic, Conduit Fic... when a page giving an overview of various ways group relationships appear in fanfic would be much easier. I think at least some should be merged for easier editing. I remember that when I wanted a page that would get "whump" and "hurt/hurt" genres a page separate from h/c what with the former often having much hurt and no comfort, I was told by a wiki admin that these should be consolidated.--Ratcreature 12:50, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

See, I'd totally be on the side of moving whump and hurt/hurt to their own page, because I don't think they're the same thing as hurt/comfort. But, hmm.

If we were trying to consolidate, I can see redirecting moresome to threesome with a definition of "moresome" there. I think polyamory should probably redirect to polyfic. GroupSlutFic is a fandom-specific thing, so it should probably stay (and maybe become a subpage of its fandom, eventually, or be folded into a fandom-specific glossary page; I still don't think there's been a decision on how to categorize fandom-specific glossary terms.) Conduit Fic is a separate enough concept that I think it deserves its own page. OT3 and OT4 could move onto the OTP page.

But I'm torn about which way to go here in terms of balancing keeping separate concepts separate and not creating a million tiny pages. Anyone else want to weigh in?--Penknife 13:08, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

I can live with your proposed arrangement too, and I don't think all need to be become one article, but it should be a little grouped. I mean, in the h/c discussion I was strongly on the side for a further split (still am), but as can be seen on that talk page all that got was that SMARM was not merged into it too (which was really a point of WTF? for me because I didn't see these as part of a subgenre at all). And now with these many articles split that to me overlap I can see the other side of the argument better in a way. I agree that that the OT3/4 could go to the OTP, maybe redirect to a subsection on that page? And I'd be okay with both conduit fic and the bandslash term just being linked, so that they're findable from the others.--Ratcreature 13:32, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to let this sit here for a while, then, so that other people can weigh in if they want to, and if no one objects, I'll try to consolidate some of these -- I agree that OT3 and OT4 (and OT5, which I've been hearing lately in Merlin fandom) could be subsections of OTP.

I'm really tempted to re-open the debate over whump vs. hurt/comfort, because I really don't see them as the same thing -- to me, hurt/comfort stories are relationship stories (whether romance or friendship fic), and whumping or [character]torture is a distinct genre that's focused on the hurt itself, not necessarily about its effect on a relationship. But that may be a minority opinion.--Penknife 15:17, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm fine with collecting some of these related pages into one page; I definitely think the "OT" ones should go together (wow, seriously, we're up to 5 now? *waits for the Mag7 OT7 fic to appear*), either under OTP or under a page named "One True..." or something, and "threesome" and "moresome" definitely belong together. Also, yeah, polyamory should be a redirect; that's more of a dictionary definition than a definition of a fannish thing. Re the hurt/comfort stuff, I'm going to take that to the hurt/comfort talk page so people can weigh in there. --Arduinna 18:00, 3 September 2009 (UTC)