I'm used to using "issuefic" as a critical term to describe unsubtle soapboxing, not to describe stories that have a message but actually work. I don't think that's the sense in which we're calling these vids "issue vids," though, and the DADT page implies that any story in which DADT is a major theme is issuefic. So, hmm. Is the term in wide use to mean simply any story that deals with social issues as a major theme? If so, we should probably include both meanings with a "sometimes used only for anvilicious stories, sometimes for all stories about these issues" explanation.--Penknife 19:32, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's what I think as well. To me, issuefic are stories where you can see the author's issues shinning through the work: for example, stories where everyone is buddy-buddy with the author's woobie and dumps on the shows protagonist. Or where a character is kidnapped, beaten, raped and left for dead only to be rescued and yelled at for getting themselves kidnapped in the first place, so the character cries and runs away from their partner, to be picked up by a serial killer who dumps them in a bathtub, dumps ice on them and steals their liver. (That used to happen to Blair all the darn time.) --rache 20:23, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
- I learned the term in Sentinel fandom. To me it means fic dealing with an author's *personal* issues. I suppose it could be someone soapboxing about her personal take on racism in the workplace or domestic discipline, but I have more often seen it used about the fic of someone who clearly identifies strongly with a certain character and feels the whole world is out to get the both of them, or identifies a character with someone she knows and hates in real life and punishes that character. This sort of fic is usually OOC and poorly written. I have also seen "issue fic" used to describe well-written fic where the reader only becomes aware of the underlying issue being dealt with because the author goes there over and over again in all her fic. A fic like Helen's "Take Clothes Off As Directed" deals with important social issues, but I don't read it and go "oh, this author clearly has issues" and roll my eyes, so I would never call it an "issue fic". Nora Charles 18:39, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
When I see "therapyfic" I actually first think of stories about characters doing therapy. That was a fairly frequent plot with Mulder in XF, but I've also seen this in SGA, Numb3rs and other fandoms.--Ratcreature 23:18, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, cool -- I've seen stories with the characters in therapy, but haven't seen them called that. Sounds like Therapyfic should be its own entry, with both definitions (and I've also heard fix-it fic called therapyfic).--Penknife 23:25, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not actually sure they are or were called that. I haven't seen the term "therapyfic" around much at all, but as the usual combinations of such-and-such-fic I see tend to list some plot element (amnesiafic, rapefic, slavefic, kinkfic...) my mind just goes there when I see the word.--Ratcreature 23:44, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Here are some fics that I would consider issuefic under the definition "the author's political/social views are the focus or are very present":
- Maggie Fitzgerald and the Saltwater Drip by antistar_e (kaikamahine). A spider-Gwen fic that looks at sexism, racism, police brutality, gun violence and gun culture, etc.
- The Angel of Hell's Kitchen by MarbleGlove. A Foggy-centric Daredevil fic where Foggy struggles with the aftermath of Matt telling him Matt's Daredevil, and Foggy without seeking it out becomes incredibly influential in Hell's Kitchen. Looks at racism, classism/poverty, the injustice of the government/police, immigration, etc.
Both of those fics are one's I don't really enjoy, but I remembered them enough to list them here as potential examples. There's other more conservative ideology fic which I have blanked from my memory and so don't have examples of. -GoldenFalls (talk) 18:06, 25 May 2019 (UTC)