Talk:CWRPS

Looking for opinions:

In brief (ha!), this fandom began as WBRPS, changed name when the WB became the CW, and fic tended to include actors from Supernatural, Smallville and other CW shows in the early stages. Gradually those other show stars became less popular, and the fandom focused more (but not exclusively) on Jared and Jensen (J2). Characters drawn from their real-life relationships became more common than random Smallville actors--Chad Michael Murray, Christian Kane, Steve Carlson, Sandy McCoy, Danneel Harris, Misha Collins, Aldis Hodge etc. were all mixed into the fandom over time. Het and threesome and femslash fics became more common. The fandom name CWRPF is sometimes used now (the AO3 uses it in long form), though not as often as the CWRPS label--but fanlore practice is to usually go with RPF. Also the pairing of Christian Kane/Steve Carlson can be seen as a fandom in and of itself, but no one who wrote a fic with both Jared/Jensen and Kane/Carlson would ever call that a crossover--the term is rarely used in RPF.

So--should this page and the J2 page be merged, and should we be calling it CWRPF? Or should the J2 page be a subpage of this one? I want to make a Christian Kane/Steve Carlson page, and should it be a separate fandom that links to this one or a subpage of this one? --facetofcathy 18:03, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

J2 is its own fandom and I would leave it the way it is because making a fandom the subpage of another fandom is an implied power struggle and often leads to headaches. With regard to the name CWRPS or CWRPF I don't have an opinion, but if CWRPS is more common I would go with that. It's not without precedent, look at popslash. :) Re: Christian Kane/Steve Carlson... Would you say that's a separate fandom or would you lable it CWRPS? If the fandom is CWRPS and this is one of the pairings it could be a subpage or part of the main CWRPS page. --Doro 19:51, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

I don't actually agree that J2 is totally distinct from CWRPS, and this is not at all like SG1 vs. SGA. There are no hard lines between them, neither in content, labeling nor timeline. But J2 is also not just a pairing label either--the J2 page here is very misleading. Most comms and fests labeled J2 accept works containing either J paired with anyone else as well as with each other. The LJ comm cw rps hosts lots of works that are also J2 in nature and may well be posted to comms labeled J2 as well. Put it this way, not all CWRPS fic is J2, but all J2 fic can be called CWRPS.

Kane/Carlson is different--neither person is on a CW show, yet they show up in CWRPS fic all the time. They are related, but not as directly as J2 and CWRPS. Some Kane/Carlson fic is CWRPS, some isn't.

If it were left up to me, I'd merge the CWRPS and J2 pages, and make Kane/Calson a separate fandom that can be linked from the first one.facetofcathy 20:30, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Discussion of how to name a Kane/Carlson page is here at Dreamwidth.--facetofcathy 14:24, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Supernatural RPF vs. CWRPF?

In 2010 Supernatural RPF was made a redirect to CWRPS with the edit comment that this was done to mirror how the fandom was organized on AO3. I just checked the AO3 tag for Supernatural RPF, and it is now a canonical whereas CW Network RPF (2191 works) and its variants are all synned to the canonical Actor RPF. Does anyone here have tag wrangler privileges so they can check the discussions and creation dates for these tags? Or does anyone know more about SPN RPF since 2011 (the last time this page was updated)? I'm sure a lot has changed, but I don't know what precisely beyond my sense from searching for certain RPF rarepairs that SPN RPF is enough of a thing to have its own page. One thing that's happened since 2011 is that SPN is still on the air, with many recurring guest stars and many actor cons, whereas I imagine all the other CW shows from 2006 have been cancelled, and Christian Kane was on another big show on a different network that also came and went.--aethel (talk) 03:48, 4 February 2019 (UTC)