Talk:Moniker

How is this page fannish? --MPH (talk) 15:35, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Pet Names are used all the time in fanfiction, especially romantic and domestic pieces. There are different trends, in different fandoms. Some where specific Pet Names are seen as more OOC than others, etc. Hope that helps! - Jacksbrak (talk) 23:01, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Something should perhaps be said to make clear the distinctions between "pet names" as such and other bynames such as diminutives and nicknames, which often share a common informality (though may simply be used to distinguish two people with the same name) but do not imply affection in the same way. --Greer Watson (talk) 07:09, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

I'd suggest a page for monikers in general with sections for pet names, diminutives, nicknames, and other kinds of bynames. We could merge this article and turn the page into a redirect. SecurityBreach (talk) 17:00, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. --Greer Watson (talk) 18:33, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

And some folks can have a lot of monikers. Consider this example:

John James Green. His Dad's John Peter Green, generally called Jack. As a kid, John James's parents initially address him as Johnnie. However, on his mother's side of the family, her father doesn't like nicknames: he calls his grandson John. As Johnny gets older, he doesn't like the diminutive: he wants to be called Jack, like his Dad. His parents tell him this would be confusing; so they take to calling him Junior. When he still complains, this shifts to JJ. His sister calls him Jay. When he gets sulky, he gets Blue Jay. However, he goes to the type of school where kids get called by their surnames: he's Green to his teachers. At first, he's Greenie to the other boys. Then he ducks a ball in gym class, and is derisively called Duck. After a while, no one remembers why.

When he goes to college, he tells people to call him Jack (like his Dad, which is what he's always wanted). When he graduates and gets a job, he's Mr. Green to his secretary. His colleagues call him Jack; but, after a few very cute deals, he gets the Jackal from their competitors—and sometimes behind his back at work, too. His wife hears this from the wife of one of his colleagues, laughs at it with him, and says he's more of a loyal dog than a slinky jackal. She often thereafter calls him Doggie, which half the neighbours think is a mispronunciation of Dougie. In bed, she sometimes calls him Pupkin. His kids, of course, call him Daddy.

No one in his civilian life knows that secretly he's a superhero called the Blue Flame. The press sometimes say The Flame. His teammates just say Flame. (It's a lot faster in a fight.) When posting on fan sites, people abbreviate it to BF. When they're back at their headquarters, one of the women on the team often refers to him snarkily as BFF: she doesn't like him very much. In private, however, his friends call him Spark.

His name is John James Green. His bynames are multitude. :D --Greer Watson (talk) 19:20, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

This page needs some serious work

It certainly needs a new title.

It needs to reflect, have sections on, and links to:

• names fans call fandoms and characters
• names non-fans call fans and such
• names characters call each other
• a lot more

Right now, it's just a weird hodgepodge of rando incomplete and confusing information. If it can't be cleaned up and made coherent, I vote to eliminate it. --Mrs. Potato Head 16:02, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

I'm adding the page as it stands as a over-reaching general term needs links and short explanations to some more topics:

• Epithet
• Pseudonym, how it is and isn't a "moniker"
• fans who choose fandom persona names such as Star Trek: TOS fans adding "T'" to their name (a la "T'MPH"), Darkover fans Adopting a Darkovan Name, Pern fans's names
• overuse of pet names in certain fanworks ("Babe" in Starsky & Hutch, "Chief" in The Sentinel, and about 1000 more)
• BNFs and how names/monikers influence fans and fandoms
• Tuckerization and use of names
• non-fan, derivative use of terms such as Trekkie, fannish use of Trekkie vs Trekker
• how Anti-antis, aka anti-anti-shippers became proshippers, and other examples of mainstream use of nicknames for fans may or may not match fans' own use of nicknames and titles
• changing meanings of names, example tinhats
• names for fandoms and fans such as Browncoats, many more examples
• who gets to decide nicknames for fandoms and fans? consensus? BNFs? fannish drift and ennui? One example: Space: 1999 Self-Definition, there are so many more examples out there
• Portmanteau and smush names
• Pairing Names, how "decided" and utilized? The politics of?
• changing names, drift: an example is slash and "/" - and how K/S didn't always mean a sexual or romantic relationship

--Mrs. Potato Head 16:29, 9 November 2024 (UTC)