Talk:Gayle F

Some of her best, coolest, art is also some of her most explicit -- what is our policy on explicit art?--Sherrold 00:42, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Something I'd still like to know... Mrs. Potato Head 23:19, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Lol, I wondered about the exact same thing when I was debating which of her art to upload for various zines... then I saw there was a lot of her most explicit stuff posted already, so I went with the flow.--Mary 17:39, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

alien genitalia

A lot of info for it is here, but the link for Spock's alien genitalia isn't correct. Star Trek: The Original Series/Spock Mrs. Potato Head 23:19, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, Doro, for your little bit of surgery. *wink* Mrs. Potato Head 23:40, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

gallery

IMO the "Notable Art" section should be retitled "Gallery" because it is not at all clear why these examples we show are notable aside from us having digital versions of the art. Also considering how many there are now, I think it should switched to the gallery tag with the smaller thumbnails.--RatCreature 06:00, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

when I last spoke to Gayle, she didn't like the smaller thumbnail gallery. same with Caren Parnes, Marilyn Cole and Joey R. I'd rather not rock the boat with them. But if you feel strongly about it, I can e-mail them again - they might ask to pull some of their art from Fanlore to keep the image size they'd prefer. One half-way measure I've seen them go for is to add the 'upright' code to the image - it makes it smaller, but still looks largish (Caren Parnes liked this compromise that Doro came up for enednoviel.) Also, we're keeping a lot of blank white space to the right so another image could be added there as well. --Morgandawn 06:15, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

My issue is not so much that I prefer tiny thumbnails for image browsing as that as it is the image section is huge and drowns out everything else on the page. Personally I understand wanting to display art in a decent way (personally I would not want any of my art here on this for example, because I have a website for that and want people to go there), but keeping the wiki page usable as a wiki page is important too. Would putting a more complete display gallery with larger previews on a subpage work, with really just one or two images on the main page, maybe images that are talked about in text?--RatCreature 06:46, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

why don;t you do a demo of what you're suggesting and then we can show it to them? Until then, hold off on making their galleries smaller (at least for the 4 artists I know have already expressed their preference and who we've been working with on layout). I don't want to set a precedent of Fanlore going back to the artists multiple times - and making these multiple changes *after* we secured their input to the existing layout. It is enough to get them on board - they're already scanning and photographing their art for Fanlore. Let's not keep making demands on their time and energy.--Morgandawn 07:28, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Demo? I just meant having a subpage for the gallery instead of having all images on artist's profiles if the image content becomes too heavy, i.e. like 3/4 of a page as it is now here, but leaving the size large if the issue is the thumbnail. If you've talked with the artists and they have specific ideas about their fanlore presence and like it as it is now, then I leave it to you to coordinate changes or leave the page as it is, or whatever suits. I don't want to step on any toes. I don't care that much about it if this is what's wanted. I won't do any changes to artists galleries then, and just keep with the text parts and keep my hands away from any image display if it is that fraught.--RatCreature 07:46, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

I suspect that the majority of artists don't have strong opinions how their zine artwork is displayed, so don't let that stop you from working with art displays for other artists or other fanzine cover pages. But when you start asking an artist to scan in artwork or photograph their art for you, it can get complicated. I cannot visualize the artwork subpage format you're describing, so if/when you create the new format (perhaps for another artist), I would at least have something in hand to show them - *if* Fanlore feels it is critical to start standardizing all artwork displays at this time. Right now, my focus is trying to get content into Fanlore and securing active artist participation. On a side note, I appreciate all the formatting and clean-up and cross-checking you're doing and, when I can, I try to incorporate your changes into my first round of edits. It is a lot of work, so thank you! --Morgandawn 08:39, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

The way I understand it the artwork subpage would just be a normal subpage (like the zine subpages) with the art copied to it in exactly the same format it is now. Nevertheless, I don't think the art is overwhelming the page because it's at the bottom and you have to scroll down to see all of it. Also, the images are pretty to look at (unlike long lists of links) and it makes sense to me that on an artist's page the text/art ratio is in favor of art because that is a huge part of an artist's identity. However, I agree that the section should be renamed to "gallery" because that better reflects reality. With regard to the gallery formatting I just wanted to add that I've been using "upright" here as well, right from the beginning. ^^° The reason for this was that there were only a few images and when I tried the gallery style I chose for Suzan Lovett's page, they looked a bit lost. Also, I don't think Gayle F's style works as well with smaller thumbnails. (Technically speaking, "upright" just means that the image is 150px wide instead of 180px, so adding "150px" instead of "upright" would look exactly the same. You can individually change the image size for each picture in the gallery style used on this page, which allows for flexibility and is something I've been taking advantage of for those images that are wider than they are high. Four images à 150px in a row is what I chose because that can be displayed on most screens without having to scroll to the right. However, I think it's possible to use the Lovett gallery style with bigger thumbnails as well, but so far I haven't looked into it. It would have to be coded differently.) --Doro 09:42, 3 February 2010 (UTC)