Talk:Emily Veinglory

I didn't link to original slash because I think there should a separate page for the genre of professionally published M/M Romance that grew out of slash fandom with all its publishers, review blogs, awards, controversies, etc. but as this page doesn't exist yet, I'm fine with linking to original slash. --Doro 12:52, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

I always thought the two meant the same, i.e. that it was still orginal slash even if it was sold, just as original fic is called that whether it is sold or published for free. I thought the other distinction was put into the profic article.--RatCreature 13:00, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

It is still original slash but not all original slash is romance and/or sold to the romance market while profic doesn't need to be original slash, could be original anything. At the very least M/M Romance should be a glossary term. --Doro 13:04, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

I guess. It seemed like duplication to me, but then I read neither amateur original slash nor profic m/m romance, so I'm not exactly familiar with the finer term and genre distinctions made there.--RatCreature 13:13, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

"it was still orginal slash even if it was sold"

I've been in the original slash community since 2002, and I would say that the terminology in that community leans toward not using the term "original slash" for pro-slash. The term "original slash" is usually used by original slashers to describe original stories that are posted or printed within the slash community, as opposed to pro-slash, which has a mainly non-slash audience and is therefore described by its publishers by profic genre terms (gay fiction, m/m romance, gay mystery, etc.). There are many exceptions to this rule, of course, particularly when people are talking about original slash and pro-slash in one breath. But distinguishing between the two types of slash is the general trend I've seen among original slashers.

"not all original slash is romance and/or sold to the romance market while profic doesn't need to be original slash, could be original anything."

I agree with what RatCreature says here. In addition - like Emily Veinglory - most of the M/M romance writers who came out of the slash community were not original slash writers; they were slash fan fiction writers. (I say this from having read a lot of those authors' bios and interviews, describing their slash experiences, and also from having followed the profic fortunes of original slash writers.) So the original slash community and the M/M romance community, while they're aware of each other and occasionally post in the same places, have never had a strong overlap in membership.

I also agree with RatCreature that a separate entry for M/M romance is warranted, given that it's the profic genre which has the strongest connection with fan fiction. It's widely believed (I don't know whether anyone has actually studied whether this is true) that M/M romance grew out of fan fiction; that can't be said for any other profic genre.

duskpeterson 14:31, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

I think you are agreeing with me, not RatCreature. ;) --Doro 16:21, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Whoops! Yes. My apologies. :) --duskpeterson 16:30, 15 October 2012 (UTC)