Talk:Celeste Hotaling-Lyons

I took the D.S.V. title off of Judith Proctor's site. Is it really DSV instead? Will you let me know, and I'll change it. :-) --Mrs. Potato Head 17:50, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Huh. You are asking me a question that I have not considered at all, not at the time nor over the years. It appears that, having pulled my zines, it's D.S.V. at times (like on the inside cover and page numbers) and other times it's referred to as DSV (on the cover and when I refer to the zine). How about you stick with D.S.V. and I'll make the change on my article(s)? Good catch!--Gozer 18:15, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

How about if we go with what's on the cover? That way someone won't come along later and think it's wrong? And if that's the way you think of them, then that's even better. I'll make sure there's a redirect so that someone typing it in either way will find them? BTW, I'm happy to fix them all up, and thrilled to get info from the source herself. If you ever have a chance to scan your zine covers in, well, that would be lovely. You could add them yourself, or send me the scans and I could add them. Whatever is easiest for you. And if you see any errors or incomplete info, tweak away, okay? Mrs. Potato Head 18:26, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

I think D.S.V. is more correct -- it's more pervasive, the name with the periods is on the inside cover and every single page number has it as "D.S.V." It occurred to me that the cover title is in the form of a graphic design rather than a font, that's why there are no periods. I just put the periods back. The convention we gave was DSV One, but I genuinely think it's better for the zine to be D.S.V. They had nothing to do with one another, really!

I love to tweak away, having discovered that I can (and having made egregious errors that I learned from last night.) I will definitely scan in the covers and send them to you or put them up (assuming I figure out how). I also want to give credit to the artists, who were professional designers on the show. That is the actual blueprint from the show on my cover. I had much better covers than my silly little gen zine deserved!--Gozer 19:22, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Gotcha. I'll make a note perhaps, about the two different spellings. Here's a question: do you know anything about this? D.S.V.-2. First, is this record accurate? And, does it have anything to do with DSV-One, the con? Also, the image thing is pretty easy once you get the hang of it. You go to "Upload file" in the toolbox at the bottom of the left of all the pages, upload the scan there, make a where it came from (ie: "my private collection"), then go to the record you want to put it on. Let me, or anyone else, know if you need help. Mrs. Potato Head 21:19, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

I've never heard of this Australian "D.S.V.-2" club zine, but I know for a fact it has nothing to do with our convention, DSV One. DSV One was a stand-alone. Keep in mind that a DSV is a Deep Space Vehicle on Blake's 7, an example of this make of ship being the Liberator, so it's undoubtedly just a matter of similar inspiration on both our parts to use the expression.

I tried to put up one of my cover images and found they were way too large, so I'll tackle this again tomorrow after I resize my scans. It doesn't look too difficult from your description, but I could not find any step-by-step instruction on how to upload an image on the site, so I thank you for the info! BTW, as far as I can tell, there's no detailed How To on uploading jpegs and inserting them into articles, so maybe there should be?--Gozer 02:24, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

You can upload large images, for some reason the wiki just warns you. Just ignore the size warning and proceed anyway, most covers are larger than that, they get a generated thumbnail and resize automatically for display on the page.--RatCreature 08:54, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

ETA: the syntax for including images into articles is Help:Images--RatCreature 08:56, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Speaking as a newbie to wiki, Help:Images isn't helpful to me; I would much prefer a simple "How To" written with step-by-step instructions on what exactly to do. Mrs. Potatohead's short description of what to do to upload an image, above, is a lot more helpful than that entire page of what looks like gobbledygook to me. I don't even understand the word "syntax" being used like that, to me that word relates to grammar. Not trying to be pissy here -- it's just that some of the instructions on this site assume a certain level of knowledge that older fans like me might not have, and it's a little frustrating and a lot daunting. Also, I wouldn't have known to ignore the size warning if you hadn't told me -- that would be good info to include on a simple "How To" page. At any rate, I will try to upload the images again! Thank you for your help!--Gozer

When I was figuring out how to upload images, I didn't find that help page helpful either. Someone explaining the process (along with a lot of trial and ERROR) was how I figured it out. But that only works when one takes the time and effort to ask, something most folks might not do. I agree, a "How To" page, one that's easy to find, would be super. Any takers? --Mrs. Potato Head 15:53, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

HA! I DID IT! I uploaded a bunch of covers to various articles and I even did it somewhat correctly! Mrs. Potato Head: I'd write the page on How To for the wiki, but I'm afraid I really don't understand the process of what I just did -- I did it kinda hunt-and-peck, if you get my meaning. I'm pretty sure I'll have to relearn the process the next time I do it because I don't really understand how I did it, I just replicated the process over and over with three pages open as my crib sheets once I got it right. I really am flying blind here. 90% of my IT and computer experience is "I'll try that and see if it works. OH! It did!"--Gozer 16:17, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

That's how we all do it. ;) Btw, I've changed the image formatting on the progam book page. I wasn't sure how you wanted it to look and whether you wanted to add some background info, etc. Right now there are only the images so I tried to adjust the image display to that. --Doro 16:21, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

::Actually, you did it rightly right. And just the way I figured it out. And I had NO computer or wiki experience. It all looked, and still looks, a bit like Greek to me. I stared and stared at those funny little codes, hunted, pecked, messed up and finally found a bit that worked, then stuck with it. Then, I put it on my crib sheet. I still don't know how to really modify images, , turn them, move them around much, redact anything personal on the cover or make them prettier (I rely on the lovely Doro and Morgan for that *kiss kiss*) but I do have a meat-and-potatoes system now. The covers, btw, are lovely. I just adore seeing them up there. They add life and depth to their pages.--Mrs. Potato Head 16:27, 27 March 2010 (UTC)