"We need more 'X'" Y'all can't even handle 'Y'
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Date Started: | pre-2021? |
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See Also: | Fanon characterization, Yeah we put your girl in the fandom and they villainized her beyond comprehension., The men start wars, yet Troy hates Helen |
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"We need more 'X'" Y'all can't even handle 'Y' is a phrase often used to make brief commentary about how fandoms at times call for more of a certain type of character or media, yet have either displayed a lack of nuance about or previously widely condemned a character or media that already falls into that category.
Examples of the meme tend to be found more frequently on Tumblr and Twitter, with examples from 2021 and possibly earlier. Many of the usage examples in fandom tend to focus on female characters:
[mylordshesacactus[1]]
“we need more evil female characters” you guys cant even handle a traumatized teenage girl making a mistake
[joanna-lannister[2]]
"we need more morally grey female characters" you can't even handle cersei lannister
While others focus commentary on queer media or fandoms:
Or on specific plot points in a show or series:
[fearandhatred[5]]
"we need more nuanced and complex characters" y'all can't even handle the possibility that aziraphale chose to go back to heaven freely
In the comments, reblogs, or replies of the post, especially on wider reaching posts, people tend to add the character(s) from their fandoms who they feel are subject to regular criticism, despite matching the desired 'X' expressed in the first half of the phrase.
Criticism
If a version of this phrase gets shared often enough on social media, there will likely be pushback or criticism in the form of justifying why the 'Y' example used in the second half of the phrase is not a good version of 'X', or angry and vitriolic responses attacking the original poster for the position they took.
For example, this response to the She-Ra phrase above:
Hi, you can have unsanitary LGBT stories without making one of the characters in the lead relationship a serial abuser and fetishizing woman on woman violence.
Or also literally be raised as siblings. What the fuck Nate
Or this response to the phrase referencing traumatized teenage girls:
Asshole she was going to destroy reality. Seriously, you dumbasses don’t understand why we think these characters are badly written when they do crappy stuff then you play devil’s advocate when you guys would bash them if they were male.
Examples of other uses
Examples Wanted: Editors are encouraged to add more examples or a wider variety of examples. particularly of other uses than those described above, with reactions. |
[Anon on real-total-drama-takes[6]]
people will be all 'ohhh we want mean female characters!!" and like,,, you can't even handle courtney total drama
Courtney from Total Drama is often the subject of this meme within the fandom.
Resources
References
- ^ mylordshesacactus (Sep 4, 2023). "Tumblr post". Archived from the original on 9 Dec 2023.
- ^ joanna-lannister (Sep 21, 2023). "Tumblr post". Archived from the original on 9 Dec 2023.
- ^ raysbian (Oct 23, 2023). "Twitter post". Archived from the original on 9 Dec 2023.
- ^ godmodebeginswithlesbians. "Tumblr post". Archived from the original on 9 Dec 2023.
- ^ fearandhatred (Dec 6, 2023). "Tumblr post". Archived from the original on 9 Dec 2023.
- ^ Anon (Jan 1, 2024). "Tumblr post". Archived from the original on 28 Feb 2024.