Template talk:Trope

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Could we maybe switch "Related Tropes" with "See also"? The Elf AU page for example includes in this section links to Story Tropes, fantasy, The Inappropriate Elf Challenge -- only one of those pages is a trope page. --Doro 19:43, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

I added see also as an additional field, so we could have one field for tropes and one for miscellaneous links.
I was also thinking it would be easier if we included some pre-programmed links in the template for pages that would otherwise be linked manually to most of the pages (e.g. Story Tropes). This way, if and when we restructure the overview pages on tropes, slash tropes, story tropes, etc., we will only need to adjust the wikilinks on the template page itself, rather than on every trope page.--æthel 20:02, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
I like that. It looks good and seems very useful. :) --Doro 20:05, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Template Formatting

Are you sure that is how it's supposed to look? For some reason there is no space for images in any of the info boxes although info boxes at wikipedia often have a field for adding an image. To compensate, we usually include images in the info box below the last field. With the current formatting it looks like this: Unicorn (creature). Doesn't it push the tropes too far down? ETA: I'm not sure, I kind of like it. I just wanted to point out that there will be images. --Doro 20:01, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

I think it's more important to have the information specific to the page at the top of the template. Also, Ratcreature pointed out that having the story tropes links right there at the top reinforces all the fic-privileging on the wiki pages, so I wanted to put it somewhere less obvious, at least until there are more/better trope overview pages to link to.
The template on the Unicorn page looks okay, I think. If I could figure out how Wikipedia does it, I could add a separate field/row for images that would automatically center it or something.--æthel 20:22, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
I added an image field. I'm not sure if it helps--I can either center both the image and the caption text, or the image will appear on the right or left side of the template. Center doesn't seem to work properly on images. Unicorn (creature) What do you think?--æthel 20:46, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Left is better. There are a few standard formatting options that don't work with the default skin of this wiki. For example floating left and center. Also, there is no way to make a wikilink (or external link) that is not automatically bolded. That makes for a very uneven reading experience when you have an article with many links. :/ Someone checked it and said it's the wordpress skin, so I don't know what to do about it. Anyway, if the image can't go from one side of the info box to the other (using all the space), there is no need for a special field because the result won't look any different, except that it might actually look better without the thumbnail frame in the info box.--Doro 21:10, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Hmm. We could integrate the Wikipedia template for Images into the template, if that would help? I'm actually a bit confused as to what the desire is here -- tropes are not fic-specifc, and as such, I'm not sure what Ratcreature's point was. I will, however, fix the default skin to allow floating left and centre images. --awils1 05:34, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
I don't know what RatCreature said. You are right, images aren't so much an issue when it comes to trope pages (except that there will be pages where there is an image added to the infobox, but that's true for all kind of pages), I just mentioned it because it's a recurring issue. Character and fandom pages for example are pages where a single image is needed in the infobox. Wikipedia usually has the image at the top of the page, for example here: Supernatural (TV series), Dean Winchester. I think that kind of image placement looks really good because it uses the full space available for the image. If you could fix the default skin to allow floating left, that would be super awesome! *_* --Doro 16:27, 6 October 2010 (UTC)