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someone please add to this page

This is so important a fandom, I hope someone can add to it.

Anime/Manga characters "Look White"

Considering all the fail surrounding The Last Airbender and the potential Bleach movie, it might be worthwhile linking to this: Do Manga Characters Look "White"? --Anenko 00:28, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Good idea. Thorn's essay is one of the most commonly cited, but there's lots of other good material too. I'll try to get to this soon. (But don't let that stop anyone else!) Franzeska 16:18, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Regarding shounen ai and yaoi.

"Only the former commonly has any English-speaking fandom."

Um, what? Yaoi has English-speaking fandoms. --awils1 17:03, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

"The former has been known variously as shounen ai, june, BL, and yaoi. The latter is known as bara (the word for 'rose' in Japanese). Only the former commonly has any English-speaking fandom." Yaoi/shounen ai/june/BL does have English speaking fandoms. Bara has a few enthusiasts, but not many, and a lot of them aren't involved in fandom, for whatever definition of fandom one is using. Franzeska 02:01, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Can we add something here to say whether either or both has fandom in other languages? The whole page is biased towards U.S.-based and ELF fandom, but this phrase is the one that jumps out most. Cesy 21:35, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Well, in Germany (and thus in German speaking countries) there has been a huge BL boom since the last decade that started with the publication of Bronze/Zetsuai. There is a German speaking fandom, too, fanartists have emerged en masse, some of them went professional, and the main publishers have started their own manga magazines, printing German comics (often in manga style) side by side with Japanese ones. And even before that, Italy was one of the first (or even the first?) European countries, I think, that had publishers printing BL manga and there was BL fandom, too. At least the way I remember it, back then I was grateful for every manga in Italian as I could *read* the writing at least, even if I only understood parts of the story. *grins* (And wasn't one of the first Ai no Kusabi novel fantranslations in Italian? Not sure about that one though, hm...) --Extempore 22:37, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
I just remembered there was a strong Polish yaoi fandom at one point, too. They did translations, iirc. ... folks, where are you?! Help this old granny remember... *waves with cane* --Extempore 22:46, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

scanlation sites

One Manga shutting down:,,,, etc. Fan reactions on LJ, DW and other communities? --Anenko 18:50, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Interesting blog post

Order of contents

My impression is that this article is pretty muddled right now. Some information appears multiple times, there is no quick way to see country-specific developments etc. My suggestion would be to rearrange the site. Perhaps into something like: 1) short explanation of the word "manga" with mentioning of manwha. 2) Manga vs Anime. Practice of adaptions. 3) Genre. All the stuff about seinen, BL, bara and so on. 4) Manga Fandom. This would be the big part of the page. Sub-sections could be country specific manga fandoms (4.1. US, 4.2. Germany...), covering publishers as well as online fandom (Aestheticism, etc.). 5) Other types of Japanese comics. 6) Controversies/Debates (or something like that) with 6.1 being the part about races in manga. Thoughts? --Extempore 08:39, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

That sounds sensible to me. Cesy 18:07, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
You could also separate out more of the subsections into their own articles and just link them. That might be a good choice for the race stuff since it has the potential to be a very long, complicated section, and it's kind of a tangent. Franzeska 15:14, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
I rearranged the site, but kept everything for now. I used languages, not countries, for fandom/publishing subcategories. Would be great to have more info there. =) --Extempore 18:27, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Image Placement

I've never gotten the hang of formatting images. /shame

Could someome please move the images of the One Piece character names up into the relevant section? --Anenko 02:35, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

It's okay! No shame allowed! Images are tricky on wikis and I am in the process of trying to fix up our CSS so a) they look better and b) do the right thing when placed in a page. I've fixed it. --Awils1 03:20, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
Thank you! That's much better. --Anenko 09:38, 21 May 2011 (UTC)