Talk:Black Hawk Down

I took out long disclaimer about slashing the real men. It's RPS. --msilverstar 04:55, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

But before the page said it was not RPF but fanfic for film that dramatized RL events. That is not the same. Even if all the people in the film correspond to real people 1:1 (I don't know as I haven't watched it), the fanfic for the film would be more like RPF once removed, wouldn't it?--RatCreature 10:14, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

FPS vs RPS

It's not Real Person Fic or Real Person Slash ("RPF slash" is complicating the idea when "RPS" suffices). Nobody in the fandom that I know of slashed the real people; they all slashed the actors playing characters. This is an important distinction for a lot of fans in a lot of fandoms (Band of Brothers, Generation Kill, & Jarhead to name a few). I get that bandom, political RPF and celebrity RPF fandoms feel completely differently, but BHD fandom was firmly a fictional-characters fandom. All the fan works use the actors as references, whether in art or in fic. When you look at the fannish works, the characters most written about include composite characters (Hoot, Sanderson, Grimes) who were not 100% real people.

When I entered the fandom I expressed concern over slashing real people, and was assured that everyone felt the same way I did—that there's a line between the real people and what's in the movie, and the fandom played firmly in the movie sandbox.

If I recall correctly there was some uncomfortable confrontation between people who were part of the real-life experience and the fans, so I consider the real vs. fictional distinction even more vital. I could have that wrong, though—that certainly happened in Generation Kill fandom, so I can't recall with perfect accuracy whether it did in BHD. But I think so.--M'lyn 15:15, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Then the Real People category should ne removed, IMO.--RatCreature 15:55, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Good edit. Thanks!--M'lyn 00:44, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

How about a Plural Point of View here. Some people "in Black Hawk Down fandom treat all characters as fictionalized, and politely ignore the lives of the real people the movie characters are based on." Others don't. Seems like this is worth capturing. --msilverstar 05:13, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm fine with that, and thanks for suggesting it. I'd be curious to see the fannish work that comes from that perspective.--M'lyn 05:15, 27 July 2010 (UTC)