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==Self Description and Terminology==

==Self Description and Terminology==

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From a fan's Tumblr post, "Hey anti-antis/pro-shippers, we need to chat about our terminology":{{Quotation|

While it’s true that anti-shippers coined the term “antis” for themselves (though some of them passionately deny this), I’ve noticed that the term is vague enough that people who are outside of fandom discourse can’t tell what it means. Additionally, the pro-MAP/pedo and pro-[[zoophilia]] communities over on twitter have stolen the term to refer to people who are anti-IRL-pedophilia and anti-IRL-zoophilia. I’m sure it’s safe to say most of us who call ourselves anti-antis and/or [[pro-shippers]] identify as anti-MAP/pedo and anti-zoo ourselves.  

While it’s true that anti-shippers coined the term “antis” for themselves (though some of them passionately deny this), I’ve noticed that the term is vague enough that people who are outside of fandom discourse can’t tell what it means. Additionally, the pro-MAP/pedo and pro-[[zoophilia]] communities over on twitter have stolen the term to refer to people who are anti-IRL-pedophilia and anti-IRL-zoophilia. I’m sure it’s safe to say most of us who call ourselves anti-antis and/or [[pro-shippers]] identify as anti-MAP/pedo and anti-zoo ourselves.  

While I find the term “[[fandom frollo]]” both accurate and amusing, I think this term is also a bit too opaque, since anyone who isn’t familiar with Disney’s [[Hunchback of Notre Dame]] won’t really understand the connotation there. Plus, well, some of us anti-antis/pro-shippers are big fans of Frollo as a character, so associating negative IRL fandom behaviour with that character could become alienating to the actual Frollo fandom.

While I find the term “[[fandom frollo]]” both accurate and amusing, I think this term is also a bit too opaque, since anyone who isn’t familiar with Disney’s [[Hunchback of Notre Dame]] won’t really understand the connotation there. Plus, well, some of us anti-antis/pro-shippers are big fans of Frollo as a character, so associating negative IRL fandom behaviour with that character could become alienating to the actual Frollo fandom.

Personally I think “[[fanpol]]” or “[[fancops]]” is the best option we have right now for “anti,” since it is much easier to figure out (lots of folks are familiar with [[portmanteaus]] and how to understand them), and the idea of “fandom police” is rather self-explanatory. While the full term “anti-shipper” or “anti-[fill in your ship name here” is also self-explanatory, “fanpol/cops” has the advantage of applying to multiple fandoms, and to those who morality-police multiple aspects of fandom, not just [[shipping]]. My suggestion would be that if you want to specifically discuss anti-shipping, or anti-[fill in your ship name here]s, you use that full term (i.e., “anti-reylos,” “anti-bakudekus,” etc). Do not simply shorten it to “antis.” Make sure your terms are clear and specific.

'''Personally I think “[[fanpol]]” or “[[fancops]]” is the best option we have right now for “anti,”''' since it is much easier to figure out (lots of folks are familiar with [[portmanteaus]] and how to understand them), and the idea of “fandom police” is rather self-explanatory. While the full term “anti-shipper” or “anti-[fill in your ship name here” is also self-explanatory, '''“fanpol/cops” has the advantage of applying to multiple fandoms, and to those who morality-police multiple aspects of fandom''', not just [[shipping]]. My suggestion would be that '''if you want to specifically discuss anti-shipping, or anti-[fill in your ship name here]s, you use that full term (i.e., “anti-reylos,” “anti-bakudekus,” etc). Do not simply shorten it to “antis.”''' Make sure your terms are clear and specific.

As for “pro-shipper”, I think it has the same strengths and weaknesses as “anti-shipper.” It’s a very specific term, used for only one aspect of fandom. Of course, if you are a pro-shipper, feel free to continue to call yourself that, but I’m not sure it covers the full spectrum of anti-antis, or those who are anti-censorship. There are also pro-shippers who use the term because they aren’t fully comfortable identifying as anti-antis, though there is frequently a great deal of overlap. This is also perfectly understandable. It’s a perfectly fine term, and feel free to continue using it (I will, too), but as I said, I think it has the disadvantage of being too closely tied to just shipping.

'''As for “pro-shipper”''', I think it has the same strengths and weaknesses as “anti-shipper.” It’s a very specific term, used for only one aspect of fandom. Of course, if you are a pro-shipper, feel free to continue to call yourself that, but I’m not sure it covers the full spectrum of anti-antis, or those who are anti-censorship. There are also pro-shippers who use the term because they aren’t fully comfortable identifying as anti-antis, though there is frequently a great deal of overlap. This is also perfectly understandable. It’s a perfectly fine term, and '''feel free to continue using it (I will, too), but as I said, I think it has the disadvantage of being too closely tied to ''just'' shipping.'''

I personally propose that “anti-antis” should start calling ourselves “anti-fanpol/cops.” It, like “fanpol/cops” has the advantage of being fairly self-explanatory and easier to figure out. It’s right there in the name, “anti fandom police.” Furthermore, it would automatically associate us with the anti-authoritarianism within fandom that we seek to represent.

'''I personally propose that “anti-antis” should start calling ourselves “anti-fanpol/cops.” It, like “fanpol/cops”''' has the advantage of being fairly self-explanatory and easier to figure out. It’s right there in the name, “anti fandom police.” Furthermore, it would automatically associate us with the anti-authoritarianism within fandom that we seek to represent.

Naturally, antis are going to refuse this terminology - at least at first (though in the [[ATLA]] some fanpol have already embraced it). They are going to try and redefine terms again, or try to continue using the old terminology. Do not play along. Do not back down. Continue using explicit, specific terminology instead of using vague terms like “anti” or “anti-anti,” which all too easily allow goalposts to be moved.

Naturally, antis are going to refuse this terminology - at least at first (though in the [[ATLA]] some fanpol have already embraced it). They are going to try and redefine terms again, or try to continue using the old terminology. Do not play along. Do not back down. Continue using explicit, specific terminology instead of using vague terms like “anti” or “anti-anti,” which all too easily allow goalposts to be moved.

In any case, the table is still very much open for ideas. Sticking to “fanpol” and “anti-fanpol” is my personal preference, but I would love to hear alternatives and for us to have a discussion about the possibilities here.

In any case, the table is still very much open for ideas. Sticking to “fanpol” and “anti-fanpol” is my personal preference, but I would love to hear alternatives and for us to have a discussion about the possibilities here.

However, in the meantime, we need to chuck out the terms “anti” and “anti-anti” and use something different. We let them define the terms of the discussion last time. Let’s have it be our turn to define our own terms, especially in light of these new developments.  <ref> [https://closeupthezoo.tumblr.com/ closeupthezoo.tumblr] (unknown date) </ref>}}

'''However, in the meantime, we need to chuck out the terms “anti” and “anti-anti” and use something different. We let them define the terms of the discussion last time. Let’s have it be our turn to define our own terms, especially in light of these new developments.''' <ref> [https://closeupthezoo.tumblr.com/ closeupthezoo.tumblr] (unknown date) </ref>}}

 

==Example Ships==

==Example Ships==

Examples of pairings where anti-shippers have been active:

Examples of pairings where anti-shippers have been active: