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|source= Sarah Z, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OcLDcg7UJw "Fandom's Biggest Controversy: The Story of Proshippers vs Antis"]}}
 
|source= Sarah Z, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OcLDcg7UJw "Fandom's Biggest Controversy: The Story of Proshippers vs Antis"]}}
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Fans have complained about Sarah Z and others' "pro-shipper vs. anti-shipper" framing. See [[Sarah_Z#Proshippers_vs_Antis_controversy]].
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Some fans have criticized Sarah Z and others' "pro-shipper vs. anti-shipper" framing. See [[Sarah_Z#Proshippers_vs_Antis_controversy]].
    
After the rise of anti-shippers, other fans tried to argue with them. Fans who debate, argue with, or criticize anti-shippers were then called [[anti-anti]]s and later [[proshipper]]s. Neither side seemed able to convince the other, but nevertheless continued to rehash the same talking points for years. Other fans witnessing all the public [[wank]] aka "shipping [[discourse]]" began to characterize the whole ordeal as "anti vs. proship" discourse.
 
After the rise of anti-shippers, other fans tried to argue with them. Fans who debate, argue with, or criticize anti-shippers were then called [[anti-anti]]s and later [[proshipper]]s. Neither side seemed able to convince the other, but nevertheless continued to rehash the same talking points for years. Other fans witnessing all the public [[wank]] aka "shipping [[discourse]]" began to characterize the whole ordeal as "anti vs. proship" discourse.
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