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====Beliefs and Comments====

====Beliefs and Comments====

Though all anti-shippers hold their own variable beliefs, in general anti-shippers from this context believe that "fiction does affect reality," and want to see certain types of content removed from website(s) or at least heavily hidden. This is in direct opposition with anti-antis, who believe fiction does not directly affect reality and that all ships are equally valid. For example, an anti may see the contentious [[furry]] fandom discourse surrounding [[baby-fur]]s as something that needs monitoring. They may see artists who draw it as clear-cut pedophiles, and some may even believe baby fur art should be considered against the rules on sites such as [[Furaffinity]] and [[InkBunny]], where such art is common and allowed. This is because they would see this type of art as harmful, and believe it directly aids in grooming children into believing [[NSFW]] of babies is okay, or that getting off on babies is okay. However, an anti-anti would disagree completely, believing that kink art of baby furries is acceptable, especially if the artists claims they create the art for "coping reasons."

Though all anti-shippers hold their own variable beliefs, in general anti-shippers from this context believe that "[[fiction does affect reality]]," and want to see certain types of content removed from website(s) or at least heavily hidden. This is in direct opposition with anti-antis, who believe fiction does not directly affect reality and that all ships are equally valid. For example, an anti may see the contentious [[furry]] fandom discourse surrounding [[baby-fur]]s as something that needs monitoring. They may see artists who draw it as clear-cut pedophiles, and some may even believe baby fur art should be considered against the rules on sites such as [[Furaffinity]] and [[InkBunny]], where such art is common and allowed. This is because they would see this type of art as harmful, and believe it directly aids in grooming children into believing [[NSFW]] of babies is okay, or that getting off on babies is okay. However, an anti-anti would disagree completely, believing that kink art of baby furries is acceptable, especially if the artists claims they create the art for "coping reasons."

Some anti-shippers create [[callout post]]s directed at artists who make art of or ship characters considered problematic, leading to many anti-antis to say that all anti-shippers are pro-harassment and [[doxxing]]. However, some surveys directed towards anti-shippers have responses from anti-shippers also disliking such behavior (see [[Discourse Demographics Survey (Voltron)]], where 57% of anti-shippers stated they discouraged harassment). Despite this, for many anti-antis anyone who self-labels as an anti-shipper is assumed to automatically be pro-harassment, and any support or perceived support of anti-shipper rhetoric seen as "harmful."

Some anti-shippers create [[callout post]]s directed at artists who make art of or ship characters considered problematic, leading to many anti-antis to say that all anti-shippers are pro-harassment and [[doxxing]]. However, some surveys directed towards anti-shippers have responses from anti-shippers also disliking such behavior (see [[Discourse Demographics Survey (Voltron)]], where 57% of anti-shippers stated they discouraged harassment). Despite this, for many anti-antis anyone who self-labels as an anti-shipper is assumed to automatically be pro-harassment, and any support or perceived support of anti-shipper rhetoric seen as "harmful."

Though there are a number of popular anti-anti blogs who speak out against harassment for any reason, there are also anti-anti blogs that are, ironically, run only as [[receipt blog]]s and [[callout post]] blogs for anti-shippers.<ref name=arch>[https://archive.fo/JUeO5#selection-1017.0-1017.54 theassholeantiarchive], Tumblr. (Accessed 10/6/2020)</ref> For example, one anti-shipper named bendyhatespaedos made it their goal to dox pedophiles on Tumblr. At a time, this included doxxing minors as young as 12 for shipping children together, which bendyhatespaedos did not deny. Bendy's argument was that "pedophilia is pedophilia, no matter how you stylize it," though they stated they no longer doxxed children. Anti-antis responded by harassing and making fun of bendyhatespaedos, told them to delete their blog, and said that they should utilize the authorities rather than take matters into their own hands.  

Though there are a number of popular anti-anti blogs who speak out against harassment for any reason, there are also anti-anti blogs that are, ironically, run only as [[receipt blog]]s and [[callout post]] blogs for anti-shippers.<ref name=arch>[https://archive.fo/JUeO5#selection-1017.0-1017.54 theassholeantiarchive], Tumblr. (Accessed 10/6/2020)</ref> For example, one anti-shipper named bendyhatespaedos made it their goal to dox pedophiles on Tumblr. At a time, this included doxxing minors as young as 12 for shipping children together, which bendyhatespaedos did not deny. Bendy's argument was that "pedophilia is pedophilia, no matter how you stylize it," though they stated they no longer doxxed children. Anti-antis responded by harassing and making fun of bendyhatespaedos, told them to delete their blog, and said that they should utilize the authorities rather than take matters into their own hands.  

Another example is of a 2020 occurrence between a 26 year old pro-shipper named MariAkutsu and a 13 year old anti-shipper named Kalmintz on Twitter. Mari had uploaded a NSFW fanfic of the children's cartoon [[Glitch Techs]], and only indicated that it was a smutfic with the tag [[lemon]]s, a phrase not many younger fandom members may know the meaning of. Kal ended up opening the fanfic and realizing it was NSFW too late. Being a minor and uncomfortable with an untagged smutfic that featured aged-up children close to her own age, she spoke out against it. The author, Mari, would then go on to make a 500 page long callout post for the 13 year old.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s124PVIovgo This Grown Adult Made A 500 Page Callout On A 13-Year-Old], YouTube. Dec 30, 2020 (Accessed 6/2/2021), [http://web.archive.org/web/20210308123241/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s124PVIovgo Archive - the video is generally considered inaccurate and has been deleted as a result]</ref> This may be one of the largest pro-shipping vs. anti-shipping issues to occur within the Glitch Tech fandom, and a good example of how even pro-shippers are not except from the behavior they usually abhor in anti-shippers.

Another example is of a 2020 occurrence between a 26 year old pro-shipper named MariAkutsu and a 13 year old anti-shipper named Kalmintz on Twitter. Mari had uploaded a NSFW fanfic of the children's cartoon ''[[Glitch Techs]]'', and only indicated that it was a smutfic with the tag [[lemon]]s, a phrase not many younger fandom members may know the meaning of. Kal ended up opening the fanfic and realizing it was NSFW too late. Being a minor and uncomfortable with an untagged smutfic that featured aged-up children close to her own age, she spoke out against it. The author, Mari, would then go on to make a 500 page long callout post for the 13 year old.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s124PVIovgo This Grown Adult Made A 500 Page Callout On A 13-Year-Old], YouTube. Dec 30, 2020 (Accessed 6/2/2021), [http://web.archive.org/web/20210308123241/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s124PVIovgo Archive - the video is generally considered inaccurate and has been deleted as a result]</ref> This may be one of the largest pro-shipping vs. anti-shipping issues to occur within the ''Glitch Techs'' fandom, and a good example of how even pro-shippers are not except from the behavior they usually abhor in anti-shippers.

Based on some of the back-and-forth from the "Anti Asshole Anti Archive" on Tumblr (since deleted), some members of both ideologies have been considered in poor taste and guilty of behavior considered to be harassment, despite both movements attempting to appear more "morally correct" than the other. For example, bendyhatespaedos was considered an "asshole anti" for doxxing a 12 year old. However, further up in the Asshole Anti Archive, the OP acknowledges that an anti-anti had begun posting explicit gore, maggots, and disturbing images on anti-shipper posts, which would have ultimately been seen by children.

Based on some of the back-and-forth from the "Anti Asshole Anti Archive" on Tumblr (since deleted), some members of both ideologies have been considered in poor taste and guilty of behavior considered to be harassment, despite both movements attempting to appear more "morally correct" than the other. For example, bendyhatespaedos was considered an "asshole anti" for doxxing a 12 year old. However, further up in the Asshole Anti Archive, the OP acknowledges that an anti-anti had begun posting explicit gore, maggots, and disturbing images on anti-shipper posts, which would have ultimately been seen by children.