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'''Ageism in Fandom''' is a topic of discussion in fandom spaces, in the context of how different age groups interact and are perceived, and how those perceptions affect the treatment of other fans, content creators and characters.

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'''Ageism in Fandom''' is a topic of discussion in fandom spaces, in the context of how different age groups interact and are perceived, and how those perceptions affect the treatment of other fans, content creators and characters.

Some object to calling this discussion ageism, preferring that the term be reserved for more [[real life]] systemic issues and discrimination, such as in the economy, rather than generally moral disagreements on the internet.

==Discussion==

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The topic of ageism in fandom began being widely discussed after a few prominent posts in 2014 and 2015 (see example below). There was a feeling that some younger fans were putting age limits on fandom involvement and may have been involved in a subtle form of gatekeeping

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The topic of ageism in fandom began being widely discussed after a few prominent posts in 2014 and 2015 (see example below). There was a feeling that some younger fans were putting age limits on fandom involvement and may have been involved in a subtle form of gatekeeping

{{quotation|Honestly, I think a lot of it comes from VERY young women who are only used to seeing older women as mothers and teachers. And yeah, of course young girls don’t want mothers and teachers spying on their hobbies. I sure didn’t when I was a young teen.

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Some felt that the expectations of younger fans were rooted in outdated beliefs

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{{quotation2|one more thing, i can’t help but notice that a lot of tumblr’s popular ideas about what 30+-year-old ~~women — and~~ it’s almost always ~~women — should~~ be doing instead of having fun online seem to line up pretty closely with very conservative beliefs about what women’s options should be. especially that women should have children and that once they have children their lives should revolve around those children completely, with no time for breaks or hobbies or internet discussion or other selfish, frivolous, unmotherly activities. to be a mother or a woman old enough to be expected to be a mother is to be a specially regulated class of person, judged by her performance as a self-sacrificing caregiver and exemplar of chaste maturity.<ref>{{cite web | url = https://enoughtohold.tumblr.com/post/166541699026/one-more-thing-i-cant-help-but-notice-that-a-lot | title = one more thing, i can’t help but notice that a lot of tumblr’s popular ideas about what 30+-year-old women|archiveurl=http://web.archive.org/web/20181204143355/https://enoughtohold.tumblr.com/post/166541699026/one-more-thing-i-cant-help-but-notice-that-a-lot|archivedate=2018-12-04 }}</ref>}}

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{{quotation2|one more thing, i can’t help but notice that a lot of tumblr’s popular ideas about what 30+-year-old women—and it’s almost always women—should be doing instead of having fun online seem to line up pretty closely with very conservative beliefs about what women’s options should be. especially that women should have children and that once they have children their lives should revolve around those children completely, with no time for breaks or hobbies or internet discussion or other selfish, frivolous, unmotherly activities. to be a mother or a woman old enough to be expected to be a mother is to be a specially regulated class of person, judged by her performance as a self-sacrificing caregiver and exemplar of chaste maturity.<ref>{{cite web | url = https://enoughtohold.tumblr.com/post/166541699026/one-more-thing-i-cant-help-but-notice-that-a-lot | title = one more thing, i can’t help but notice that a lot of tumblr’s popular ideas about what 30+-year-old women|archiveurl=http://web.archive.org/web/20181204143355/https://enoughtohold.tumblr.com/post/166541699026/one-more-thing-i-cant-help-but-notice-that-a-lot|archivedate=2018-12-04 }}</ref>}}

Or a lack of interaction with mature individuals outside a familial or professional setting

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==You're middle aged and still have a tumblr?==

===2014===

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Often referred to as one of the primary examples of ageism on [[Tumblr]], on December 14, 2014, Anonymous asked a Tumblr user: {{Quotation|'''You're middle aged and still have a tumblr? LOL''' <ref>{{cite web | url = http://eeyore9990.tumblr.com/post/105585292478/youre-middle-aged-and-still-have-a-tumblr-lol | title = eeyore9990.tumblr |archiveurl=http://archive.fo/3Kcmh|archivedate=2019-02-21}}</ref>}} This post generated a great deal of discussion and older fans trying to enlighten others about their fandom history and continued engagement, as of June 2017 it had over 17,000 notes. Some responses:

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Often referred to as one of the primary examples of ageism on [[Tumblr]], on December 14, 2014, Anonymous asked a Tumblr user: {{Quotation|'''You're middle aged and still have a tumblr? LOL''' <ref>{{cite web | url = http://eeyore9990.tumblr.com/post/105585292478/youre-middle-aged-and-still-have-a-tumblr-lol | title = eeyore9990.tumblr |archiveurl=http://archive.fo/3Kcmh|archivedate=2019-02-21}}</ref>}} This post generated a great deal of discussion and older fans trying to enlighten others about their fandom history and continued engagement, as of June 2017 it had over 17,000 notes. Some responses:

{{Quotation2|[drgrlfriend]: I always wonder what people who make these comments think middle-aged people do. Like, sit around, doing their taxes and talking about escrow 24/7?

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Do they really expect not to have any fun or waste any time after age 30? Or maybe they think that people are just not awesome enough to be able to have a professional job, a family, and still waste time on Tumblr.

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Well, I’m here, friends, to tell you that it is possible! You can have it ~~ALL — the~~ career, the family, and the incredible time-suck of fandom! <ref>{{cite web | url = http://drgrlfriend.tumblr.com/post/105625527487/youre-middle-aged-and-still-have-a-tumblr-lol | title = drgrlfriend.tumblr|archiveurl=http://web.archive.org/web/20170420225627/http://drgrlfriend.tumblr.com/post/105625527487/youre-middle-aged-and-still-have-a-tumblr-lol|archivedate=2017-04-20 }}</ref>}}

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Well, I’m here, friends, to tell you that it is possible! You can have it ALL—the career, the family, and the incredible time-suck of fandom! <ref>{{cite web | url = http://drgrlfriend.tumblr.com/post/105625527487/youre-middle-aged-and-still-have-a-tumblr-lol | title = drgrlfriend.tumblr|archiveurl=http://web.archive.org/web/20170420225627/http://drgrlfriend.tumblr.com/post/105625527487/youre-middle-aged-and-still-have-a-tumblr-lol|archivedate=2017-04-20 }}</ref>}}

{{Quotation|[sertetlen]: Oh middle aged WOMEN in particular are just… not allowed to have fun, I think? We’re supposed to be past it, pathetic and devote the remaining dregs of our time, energy & attention to caring for others, and studiously avoiding anything that someone might find worthy of mockery. Then we die (or become invisible). (I mean, maybe we’re allowed to have fun if it’s APPROPRIATE fun. Like, a small sherry after an age-allowed exercise class? A couple of hours of watching BBC2? Not fandom. Never fandom!)

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{{Quotation| [labelleizzy]: Wow, I am middle-aged now? Who knew?

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Yeah, I have a Tumblr, too. I do Tumblr when I am not casting spells, watching Marvel movies, or talking to my Beast Herd.

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Yeah, I have a Tumblr, too. I do Tumblr when I am not casting spells, watching Marvel movies, or talking to my Beast Herd.

Seriously! <ref>{{cite web | url = http://labelleizzy.tumblr.com/post/135016063087/youre-middle-aged-and-still-have-a-tumblr-lol | title = labelleizzy.tumblr|archiveurl=http://web.archive.org/web/20161010181851/http://labelleizzy.tumblr.com/post/130626760957/youre-middle-aged-and-still-have-a-tumblr-lol|archivedate=2016-10-10 }}</ref>}}

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{{Quotation2|[spitandvinegar]:

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{{Quotation2|[spitandvinegar]:

In the spirit of clarification I would like to point out that I am not middle aged but rather a ageless and deathless dread-beast of the underdark, which is entirely different. But I do have something to say, and it is this:

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You are standing on the deck and you are in the sunlight. You are watching the coast go by, the castles on the bank. Do you see the flowers, darling? Do you see the children waving? Wave back at them, darling. Wave as they pass. The current sweeps one way. The current runs downstream.

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You will never return to the school bus, the board-books, the faith in the wisdom of your elders. It has passed. It has gone. You saw it as you fell, and you are still falling. There is no return, darling. There is no falling up again.

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You will never return to the school bus, the board-books, the faith in the wisdom of your elders. It has passed. It has gone. You saw it as you fell, and you are still falling. There is no return, darling. There is no falling up again.

You will grow old and your body will be a stranger’s. You will grow old and men’s eyes will pass over you. You will grow old and you will learn what you’re made of. Will you know yourself, darling? Will you love who you have become?

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But this is my dream. To live and die on the Fannish Road.<ref>{{cite web | url = http://eeyore9990.tumblr.com/post/135576193858/youre-middle-aged-and-still-have-a-tumblr-lol | title = eeyore9990.tumblr |archiveurl=http://archive.fo/3Kcmh|archivedate=2019-02-21}}</ref>}}

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{{Quotation| [animatedamerican] quotes a [[filk]] ]:

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{{Quotation| [animatedamerican] quotes a [[filk]] ]:

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: So let us all gather at ConValescence,

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: So let us all gather at ConValescence,

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:The fannish retirement con,

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:The fannish retirement con,

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:And true to our habits, like drumming pink rabbits,

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:And true to our habits, like drumming pink rabbits,

:It keeps going on and on …

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:Where the Art Show has pictures of Dorian Gray,

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:Where the Art Show has pictures of Dorian Gray,

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:Where the Tully and oxygen’s pure,

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:Where the Tully and oxygen’s pure,

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:And where we will party, flirt, filk, shmooze, and SMOF

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:And where we will party, flirt, filk, shmooze, and SMOF

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:Till the Con Suite runs out of Ensure.

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:Till the Con Suite runs out of Ensure.

:- Tom Smith, “ConValescence” <ref>{{cite web | url = http://animatedamerican.tumblr.com/post/137161266882/youre-middle-aged-and-still-have-a-tumblr-lol | title = animatedamerican.tumblr|archiveurl=http://web.archive.org/web/20181204021929/http://animatedamerican.tumblr.com/post/137161266882/youre-middle-aged-and-still-have-a-tumblr-lol|archivedate=2018-12-04 }}</ref>}}

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===2019===

From a fan in 2019: {{Quotation|

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It's really rather distressing to go hunting through [[Fanlore|Fanlore's]] pages to try to match the original artwork I have to the '[[zine]] and [[fanfic]] it was intended for only to find that so many of the editors and [[Big Name Fans]] of my day are dead now. Of course most of them were a good deal older than I was. That was very much the norm. I was reading something on [[tumblr]] the other day about young fans being creeped out that people over 30 are still in fandom. Like so much about fandom today, I had to blink and go, "Really?" When [[fanzines]] were the thing, about all the [[BNFs]] were grown-ups -- and not just 30 year olds. Real middle-aged grown-ups with real jobs and money. You had to have grown-up money to be in the fanzine business. Because it was a small publishing business by then. I know sometimes it looks like all you needed was a [[typewriter]], a stack of memo paper and a stapler, but no... You had to have a way to get that stuff printed and promoted and distributed. And that required money. As a writer or an illustrator, you couldn't just come up with a snappy screen name and post whatever. You had to go, humbly, and write letters to grown-up fans saying, "Here are my Mr. Spock poems. Please, may I be in fandom? Please?" And most of them were nice to you... usually... <ref> from an email sent to [[[User:MPH]] from [[Teegar]], quoted with permission (February 20, 2019) </ref>}}

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It's really rather distressing to go hunting through [[Fanlore|Fanlore's]] pages to try to match the original artwork I have to the '[[zine]] and [[fanfic]] it was intended for only to find that so many of the editors and [[Big Name Fans]] of my day are dead now. Of course most of them were a good deal older than I was. That was very much the norm. I was reading something on [[tumblr]] the other day about young fans being creeped out that people over 30 are still in fandom. Like so much about fandom today, I had to blink and go, "Really?" When [[fanzines]] were the thing, about all the [[BNFs]] were grown-ups -- and not just 30 year olds. Real middle-aged grown-ups with real jobs and money. You had to have grown-up money to be in the fanzine business. Because it was a small publishing business by then. I know sometimes it looks like all you needed was a [[typewriter]], a stack of memo paper and a stapler, but no... You had to have a way to get that stuff printed and promoted and distributed. And that required money. As a writer or an illustrator, you couldn't just come up with a snappy screen name and post whatever. You had to go, humbly, and write letters to grown-up fans saying, "Here are my Mr. Spock poems. Please, may I be in fandom? Please?" And most of them were nice to you... usually...<ref>from an email sent to [[User:MPH]] from [[Teegar]], quoted with permission (February 20, 2019)</ref>}}

==Youth Perspectives==

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See: [[Minors in Fandom]]

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Some younger fans point out that accusing fans of ageism may be a way to cover up bad behavior:

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Some younger fans point out that accusing fans of ageism may be a way to cover up bad behavior:

{{Quotation| And then sometimes having older fandom friends is like when you go home for the holidays and your grandma says something racist. And it’s like … you love your grandma … but she just said something racist … what are you supposed to do now?

So you’re sort of left with the feeling of “thank gods your friends aren’t here to hear grandma being racist.” But when this happens on tumblr and “racist grandma” is “racist older fandom friend” all your friends can hear grandma being racist. (Or sexist. Or homophobic. Or biphobic. Or transphobic. Or anti-Semitic. Or ableist.) [snipped] And like how much nastiness are you supposed to put up with from the older generations for the sake of bonds in other areas, whether it’s racist grandma, or a close friend who shares media recommendations with you in a small fandom.<ref>{{source| url = http://out-there-on-the-maroon.tumblr.com/post/134236855375/older-fandom-friends | title = Older fandom friends | archiveurl = http://www.webcitation.org/6dR4Lwbwp | archivedate = 2015-11-30 }} (November 2015)</ref>}}

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==Dislike of Older Characters in Canon==

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Fandom hatred for older characters, especially older female characters, is often identified as ageism. kane-and-griffin gives examples of ageism within [[The 100]] fandom against the character of [[Abby Griffin]]:

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Fandom hatred for older characters, especially older female characters, is often identified as ageism. kane-and-griffin gives examples of ageism within [[The 100]] fandom against the character of [[Abby Griffin]]:

{{quotation|Ageism can look like fans who show up in the comments of the writers’ room Twitter and Instagram when they post pictures of the adults to say “nobody cares about them, post [whoever I personally stan the most] instead.” ...

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Ageism can look like a blanket refusal, under in any situation where [[Clarke Griffin|Clarke]] and Abby are at odds, to grant that Abby might have a point, even when the narrative is clearly telling us that Clarke is the character at fault. The tendency within this fandom for young girls who closely identify with Clarke to graft their own mom frustrations onto Abby is virtually never-ending, and it can be hard to sift through the the complex intersection of ageism and misogyny that makes it impossible for them not to see mothers as human beings who are interesting, who are wise, who are right, who know things their children do not, who are sexual, who are allowed to make mistakes, who deserve screen time and plot agency, who are just as vital to the story as the teenagers...

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Ageism can look like a fan who ships all the non-canon ships … except Doctor Mechanic, because it’s “gross” and “Abby is basically her mom.” The inherent desexualization of age-difference relationships is often rooted in ageism. You don’t have to ship it! But if you insist that no one should ship it, then there may be some ageism in the roots of your ship-shaming.<ref name=abby>{{cite web | url = http://kane-and-griffin.tumblr.com/post/164960658961/hey-so-i-know-that-youre-the-most-famous-person | title = I have a lot of thoughts, some of which may not be the thoughts you were hoping that I would have|archiveurl=http://web.archive.org/web/20181204102956/http://kane-and-griffin.tumblr.com/post/164960658961/hey-so-i-know-that-youre-the-most-famous-person|archivedate=2018-12-04 }}</ref>}}

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Ageism can look like a fan who ships all the non-canon ships … except Doctor Mechanic, because it’s “gross” and “Abby is basically her mom.” The inherent desexualization of age-difference relationships is often rooted in ageism. You don’t have to ship it! But if you insist that no one should ship it, then there may be some ageism in the roots of your ship-shaming.<ref name=abby>{{cite web | url = http://kane-and-griffin.tumblr.com/post/164960658961/hey-so-i-know-that-youre-the-most-famous-person | title = I have a lot of thoughts, some of which may not be the thoughts you were hoping that I would have|archiveurl=http://web.archive.org/web/20181204102956/http://kane-and-griffin.tumblr.com/post/164960658961/hey-so-i-know-that-youre-the-most-famous-person|archivedate=2018-12-04 }}</ref>}}

Accusations of ageism is also often associated with [[The Walking Dead]] fandom's treatment of the character [[Carol Peletier]],<ref>{{cite web | url = http://carolageismandsexismposts.tumblr.com/ | title = CAROL HATE: AGEISM, SEXISM, VICTIM-BLAMING|archiveurl=http://web.archive.org/web/20181204030747/http://carolageismandsexismposts.tumblr.com/|archivedate=2018-12-04 }}</ref> forum user Doctor grimes summarizes:

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{{quotation2|ageism is at play in some parts of this fandom. I've certainly seen my fair share of some people lobbing ageist remarks about Melissa McBride/[[Carol Peletier|Carol]]. From diminishing her capabilities solely on the basis of her age, to the fact that she's "too old" to play opposite male characters like [[Daryl Dixon|Daryl]] or [[Rick Grimes|Rick]] in a romance. She's been referred to as a "mother" figure to men closer to her own age than the age of her canonical on-screen child (Sophia) -- men that she couldn't possibly have birthed.

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{{quotation2|ageism is at play in some parts of this fandom. I've certainly seen my fair share of some people lobbing ageist remarks about Melissa McBride/[[Carol Peletier|Carol]]. From diminishing her capabilities solely on the basis of her age, to the fact that she's "too old" to play opposite male characters like [[Daryl Dixon|Daryl]] or [[Rick Grimes|Rick]] in a romance. She's been referred to as a "mother" figure to men closer to her own age than the age of her canonical on-screen child (Sophia) -- men that she couldn't possibly have birthed.

I do believe this is a result of societal conditioning. We've been shown consistently older men still being sexy and suave and roping younger women (sometimes half their age), while older women get shoved into the margins. To play mothers to younger starring characters, grandmothers, or minor supporting roles. They're rarely given the chance to be shown doing anything active -- let alone driving a plot.<ref>{{cite web | url = http://spoilthedead.com/forum/showthread.php/22188-Women-and-Ageism-on-TWD/page4 | title = Fan, Doctor Grimes. Women and Ageism on TWD, posted December 24, 2015 on spoilthedead.com/forum|archiveurl=http://archive.fo/hfgy6|archivedate=2019-02-21 }}</ref>}}

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==Meta & Further Reading==

===Unclear Date===

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* [http://web.archive.org/web/20180822224356/http://catchmewhispering.tumblr.com/post/137706195372/the-hilarious-thing-about-growing-up-that-all-the Getting older doesn’t actually ''feel'' like anything] by @catchmewhispering

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* [http://web.archive.org/web/20180822224356/http://catchmewhispering.tumblr.com/post/137706195372/the-hilarious-thing-about-growing-up-that-all-the Getting older doesn’t actually ''feel'' like anything] by @catchmewhispering

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* [http://web.archive.org/web/20180822224533/http://codenamecesare.tumblr.com/post/166333167868/i-saw-some-discourse-go-by-about-how-adults If other people in fandom are older than you, by definition, they have been your age] by @codenamecesare

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* [http://web.archive.org/web/20180822224533/http://codenamecesare.tumblr.com/post/166333167868/i-saw-some-discourse-go-by-about-how-adults If other people in fandom are older than you, by definition, they have been your age] by @codenamecesare

* [http://cameoamalthea.tumblr.com/post/171280916042/reblog-if-older-fans-are-welcome-in-fandom Reblog if Older Fans Are Welcome In Fandom] by @cameoamalthea

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* [https://web.archive.org/web/20180822225410/http://olderthannetfic.tumblr.com/post/165502514979/yourshipisfine-vulgarweed You are reinforcing a stereotype] by @asocialjusticeleague, @olderthannetfic, et al

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* [https://web.archive.org/web/20180822225410/http://olderthannetfic.tumblr.com/post/165502514979/yourshipisfine-vulgarweed You are reinforcing a stereotype] by @asocialjusticeleague, @olderthannetfic, et al

===2014===

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* [http://unwrapping.tumblr.com/post/93716151897/age-demographics-tumblr Age ranges of tumblr (Dashboard and Web visitors)]; [http://www.webcitation.org/6bRL2MzT1 WebCite] (2014)

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* [http://unwrapping.tumblr.com/post/93716151897/age-demographics-tumblr Age ranges of tumblr (Dashboard and Web visitors)]; [http://www.webcitation.org/6bRL2MzT1 WebCite] (2014)

===2015===

* [[A Note about the X-Files Fandom]] (2015)

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* [http://eeyore9990.tumblr.com/post/105585292478/youre-middle-aged-and-still-have-a-tumblr-lol You're middle aged and still have a tumblr? LOL] (October 2015)

* [https://warlordenfilade.tumblr.com/post/109434705227/im-old-as-balls I’m old as balls] by @warlordenfilade (2015)

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* [http://web.archive.org/web/20180822225121/http://bugsieplusone.tumblr.com/post/113008393327/psa-ive-been-sitting-on-this-post-for-a-while PSA] by @bugsieplusone (2015)

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* [http://web.archive.org/web/20180822225121/http://bugsieplusone.tumblr.com/post/113008393327/psa-ive-been-sitting-on-this-post-for-a-while PSA] by @bugsieplusone (2015)

===2016===

* [[You’re totally welcome on my lawn, but I wish you wouldn’t pee on the grass]] (2016)

* [http://web.archive.org/web/20180822224154/http://vulgarweed.tumblr.com/post/144542166328/ageism-in-fandom-too-old-to-fangirl Ageism in Fandom: Too Old to Fangirl?] by @ravenmorganleigh, @vulgarweed (2016)

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* [https://web.archive.org/web/20180822225336/http://hils79.tumblr.com/post/147792539959/you-are-never-too-old-for-fandom you are never too old for fandom] by @hils79 (2016)

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* [https://web.archive.org/web/20180822225336/http://hils79.tumblr.com/post/147792539959/you-are-never-too-old-for-fandom you are never too old for fandom] by @hils79 (2016)

===2017===

* [http://web.archive.org/web/20180822223842/http://tppfandomstats.tumblr.com/post/161316200787/age-and-experience-in-fandom-english-reading Age and Experience in Fandom] by @tppfandomstats (2017)

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* [https://web.archive.org/web/20180822223946/http://telesilla.tumblr.com/post/160529614997/age-appropriate-activities Age Appropriate Activities] by @telesilla (2017)

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* [https://web.archive.org/web/20180822223946/http://telesilla.tumblr.com/post/160529614997/age-appropriate-activities Age Appropriate Activities] by @telesilla (2017)

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* [http://web.archive.org/web/20180822224057/https://badtech-reblogs.tumblr.com/post/166760942509/seeing-yet-another-post-about-ageism-in-fandom-and Ageism in Fandom] by @badtech-reblogs (2017)

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* [http://web.archive.org/web/20180822224057/https://badtech-reblogs.tumblr.com/post/166760942509/seeing-yet-another-post-about-ageism-in-fandom-and Ageism in Fandom] by @badtech-reblogs (2017)

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* [http://web.archive.org/web/20180822224442/https://freedom-of-fanfic.tumblr.com/post/168732958239/you-know-im-starting-to-think-that-anti-ism-is The idea that you will someday be ‘too old’ for the stuff you find fun] by @freedom-of-fanfic (2017)

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* [http://web.archive.org/web/20180822224442/https://freedom-of-fanfic.tumblr.com/post/168732958239/you-know-im-starting-to-think-that-anti-ism-is The idea that you will someday be ‘too old’ for the stuff you find fun] by @freedom-of-fanfic (2017)

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* [https://web.archive.org/web/20180822224714/http://vantasticmess.tumblr.com/post/151861311771/i-wish-wed-stop-telling-each-other-and I wish we’d stop telling each other - and ourselves - that there’s a point at which we’re too old for fandom] by @vantasticmess (2017)

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* [https://web.archive.org/web/20180822224714/http://vantasticmess.tumblr.com/post/151861311771/i-wish-wed-stop-telling-each-other-and I wish we’d stop telling each other - and ourselves - that there’s a point at which we’re too old for fandom] by @vantasticmess (2017)

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* [[Like, i’m not saying that adults don’t have a place in fandom. they can and they do, and many are perfectly great people.]] by @porcupine-girl, @melifair, et al (2017)

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* [[Like, i’m not saying that adults don’t have a place in fandom. they can and they do, and many are perfectly great people.]] by @porcupine-girl, @melifair, et al (2017)

* [http://web.archive.org/web/20180822225251/https://awkward-smiley.tumblr.com/post/169124776505/its-been-said-before-but-so-much-of-tumblrs tumblr’s disgust for older people in fandom] by @bai-xue, @awkward-smiley (2017)

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* [[Look I don't wanna sound like a Fandom Mom or whatever but what do you think women over 25 or so are supposed to do?]] by @roxolotl (2018)

* [[Last week, I turned 36, and according to some, I’ve already overstayed my welcome in fandom by at least a decade.]] (August 2018)

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* [http://web.archive.org/web/20180822223741/https://littlesystems.tumblr.com/post/171672928967/littlesystems-littlesystems-fandom-adults Adults in Fandom] by @littlesystems (2018)

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* [http://web.archive.org/web/20180822223741/https://littlesystems.tumblr.com/post/171672928967/littlesystems-littlesystems-fandom-adults Adults in Fandom] by @littlesystems (2018)

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* [http://web.archive.org/web/20180822224304/https://thepalmtoptiger.tumblr.com/post/157652682506/i-almost-forgot-that-ageism-in-fandom-is-a-thing Fandom culture wouldn’t be where it is now if it wasn’t for Old Fandom] by @thepalmtoptiger (2018)

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* [http://web.archive.org/web/20180822224304/https://thepalmtoptiger.tumblr.com/post/157652682506/i-almost-forgot-that-ageism-in-fandom-is-a-thing Fandom culture wouldn’t be where it is now if it wasn’t for Old Fandom] by @thepalmtoptiger (2018)

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* [http://muchymozzarella.tumblr.com/post/170538073384/i-met-a-fan-artist-from-the-hobbit-fandom-whos#.W33oli3GyuV Older fans are crucial to the survival of fandoms] by @muchymozzarella (2018)

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* [http://muchymozzarella.tumblr.com/post/170538073384/i-met-a-fan-artist-from-the-hobbit-fandom-whos#.W33oli3GyuV Older fans are crucial to the survival of fandoms] by @muchymozzarella (2018)

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