Talk:Miami Vice

It's been ages since I've watched a Miami Vice episode, and I don't remember the names, so right now the article is confusing because it says it is a buddy cop show but mentions two competing main slash pairings? Did the partners change like in Due South? (I guess I could just research the characters on wikipedia or somewhere, but I still think it would be good for the article to explain briefly how this fits together.)--Ratcreature 12:40, 27 January 2009 (UTC) ETA: Never mind, I looked up the names to fix my confusion, though now I don't understand why it says it was a buddy show, but the main zine pairing was with the boss, but I guess I have to wait for an explanation for that until someone who knows the fandom expands this from a stub *G*.--Ratcreature 12:49, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

It was a buddy show regardless of what the fandom was/is like. I haven't seen enough to have a guess as to why the pairing with the boss was so popular (assuming there was a reason at all or assuming there was a reason other than some particular influential fanfic). Maybe everyone just likes Edward James Olmos (who played the boss) a lot. Or maybe it's just an early example of fandom's inability to write about black characters. Franzeska 23:06, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Having now watched most of it and read a bunch of zines, I still don't entirely get it. The basic reason appears to be that fans thought PMT was a horrible actor and worse person and that his character (Tubbs) didn't get much development, especially in the later seasons. EJO is completely awesome, both on Miami Vice and in general, but Don Johnson is at least as bad as PMT (just as much overacting, and he's had massive substance abuse problems and was banging 14 year-old Melanie Griffith when he was 22, which I think totally trumps PMT's raging ego and billions of children, but YMMV). Possibly, this is one of those situations where watching it years later when everyone's forgotten most of the actors is a good thing. It's also worth noting that the slash zines we've got listed on Fanlore so far mostly feature the same few authors. I have no idea what the fandom would look like if it had thousands of active writers. (Lots of Sonny/Gina shippers perhaps?) Some of those zines make reference to everyone seeing Crockett/Tubbs and the zine authors being happy to discover other people who like Crockett/Castillo, so who knows. Maybe it's just that the Crockett/Castillo shippers are the ones who got it together to actually produce zines. Franzeska 07:19, 31 July 2010 (UTC)